Oh yeah, I'm not saying Mack can't be a good pro (I don't think MT is within his reach, but he can be a solid WR2 in the NFL), merely saying I don't think the combine is going to boost his stock near as much as the receivers last year.
Malik Harrison, LB: 6'2 5/8", 246 pounds, 9 7/8" hand, 32 7/8" arm, 79 1/8" wing
If Harrison runs what I think he's going to run at that size, he has a chance to sneak into the top 50 in a weak LB class. Anything in the 4.5s is going to make him a shitload of money. Which is a shame, because I was really hoping the Browns could get him at the top of the 3rd.
I do not foresee Mack running a 4.35 though like TMC did. NFL teams love speed, and I expect Mack to be closer to a 4.6 than a 4.4
Jakailin commits 13 seconds into week 1 when Jameson runs the opening kickoff back for a TD
One of Stroud/Miller exited the game in his scenario when OSU was up 69-0 midway through the 3rd. His post is entirely about the 2nd team Offense and Defense and that's the story I'm sticking with.
You can't just go "eh, he was in a locker room he was asking for it"
Jesus Christ dude. This is like the 15th time you've attempted to put words in my mouth. You keep trying to claim that I'm saying what Odell did was fine and totally justified, despite 4 or 5 posts where I explicitly say the direct opposite. Please, for the love of god, read the comments before replying next and consider them before typing your response.
you do realize the this isn't, hasn't, and likely never will mindset is because people decide not to, not because the legal system right?
You are being intentionally obtuse if you genuinely believe the legal system applies the exact same to all citizens regardless of race, gender, public status, wealth, etc. You know it doesn't, I know it doesn't, you just want to make a point so you're pretending it does. Odell's worst outcome he will face here is likely a fine. Let's change the circumstance to a female:
A runner smacked a female reporter on the ass. The runner was charged with sexual battery and banned from any future events. The situations are eerily similar, just with a female victim. In the OBJ case, the judge wouldn't even consider sexual battery despite the same level of battery. It's just one of many examples where the circumstances surrounding an event are considered by the legal system. It may be a sad truth, but it's undoubtedly a truth.
Soft comment aside, I have some questions about this portion:
The sworn statement suggests the officer later realized who had slapped him after a cellphone video of the encounter had gone viral online. After calling police and undergoing an interview early Wednesday, the officer indicated that he wanted to press charges.
This seems to indicate he wasn't going to press chargers until he found out it was Beckham?
And the point I'm making is that despite how you or anyone else in this thread may want the world to work, that's not how it does work. Right or wrong, gender and circumstance absolutely 100% do matter.
Same legal actions are available/enforced for any and everybody
As great as this sounds, you and I both know this isn't, hasn't, and likely will never be the case.
Stop trying to present scenarios that are objectively different and asking if it's okay lol, this is no less than the 5th change of circumstances people have tried to use as some form of evidence.
For the 100th time:
1. I have repeatedly said OBJ's actions weren't okay, just that they didn't justify an arrest.
2. In this new situation you have presented, the cop is a female. That is a change in circumstance. Remember the chat we had about circumstances mattering?
If a teammate slaps you on the ass and you tell them not to do that and then he continues to do it yea you go up the chain
Based on what you originally said though, it's immediately a battery charge the second he slapped him on the ass. Whether or not he was told not to do that afterwards would be irrelevant. If you want to hold everyone to the same standard regardless of circumstance, you're opening up a massive can of worms about what is and isn't a criminal offense.
Again, I'm not saying what OBJ did was okay. I'm simply saying the circumstances around it did not justify a battery charge being filed.
Yikes, Navy. Just took a massive leap across a line there.
I never said what Odell did was okay. I said it didn't warrant an arrest and pointed to the circumstances around the incident as to why it didn't. You're welcome to disagree with that...
But comparing this to what Jerry Sandusky did is in horribly poor taste and wildly disrespectful to anybody impacted by that scandal. I frankly expect a lot better of a highly respected member of this board.
Lol my man there's a wholeeee lot of athletes that need arrested then if that's the hill you're gonna die on. If there is truly zero circumstances where it's okay like you imply, every single time it's done during a sporting event between teammates should be considered sexual assault.
Whether you want to believe it or not, circumstances absolutely do matter.
Edit: also, in regards to "this could have been a bigger issue if they wanted to" they tried to get him for sexual battery and a judge told them it wasn't gonna happen
He should thank his lucky stars they’re not making it sexual
They tried, judge said no
Yeah I agree, that's 1 reason I don't think a trade with CAR is feasible without getting Cam and a huge haul of picks in return, or somehow still being in a position to take Tua.
The other being that Carolina needs as many assets as they can get.
While I agree it's likely related to numbers, we're 1 scholly over without Martinez, and 2 if he ends up signing
I'm curious what type of haul that would take, as I'm sure Rhule and Brady have at least discussed it. Cam, 7th overall, 38th overall, and a 2021 first? I'm just not sure if the Bengals actually want Cam since they'd have to pay him. Maybe they could sling some form of 3 team deal with Detroit that involves them getting #3 and Tua, but I just don't see the Bengals moving all the way back to 7th.
The other issue is, Carolina looks to be headed for a rebuild with the rumors they plan to trade Cam and Keuchly retiring. Not sure they'll be in the business of giving up assets. Might be a #TankForTrevor or #FailForFields situation in 2020
Note: OBJ is being stupid here and no one will argue that
My biggest gripe with this whole thread is that those defending the officer are acting as if those of us saying "OBJ should not have been arrested" are actually saying "this behavior is completely acceptable"
Ahhh, the issue here is just a simple misunderstanding. I see where you're coming from now.
What I meant by
were arrested for a hell of a lot more than what Odell did here
Was that the other individuals you were referring to arrested for battery almost certainly did more than smack someone on the ass, because that happens hundreds of times every day in every city and people aren't arrested for it. Not that they committed other crimes in addition to their battery.
Well, if you'd actually read the posts you're replying to, you'd see the words circumstances matter in most of my replies.
That's a completely different circumstance, and should (and would) have a completely different result.
The vast majority of my comments on this thread are replies to people replying to me... and the general theme of all of them is that this whole situation is dumb and shouldn't have happened. You have over half a dozen comments on this thread as well lmao. Chill out my man, it's the internet.
but that is irrelevant anyway
How so? The point I'm making is that if you replace OBJ in this specific circumstance with a random guy, he wouldn't have been arrested. It's entirely relevant.
It doesn't matter who it is, it's wrong.
For like the 4th time, I agree that it's wrong. It's also wrong to arrest somebody for this though.
Take the OBJ out out it
It's a non story with no arrests if OBJ if out of it.
Right, when the Redskins moved up to draft RG3 they gave up 3 1s and a 2. He's 2 1st round picks short probably
I'm willing to bet that list of Joe Shmo's were arrested for a hell of a lot more than what Odell did here