I thought I read that the other Taylor, the WR/Slot was out of the game this weekend? This guy had been running those jet sweeps a lot for them. And their Nose Guard? Anyone have any other injury reports for this game concerning Wiscy?
Let's remember, UGA has a bad loss on their record. I honestly don't think they deserve to be at #4, but hey. LSU beating them will not be that much better than us beating Wisky (this weekend) who has been beaten by us(good loss), and has a bad (actually Illinois is bowl eligable) loss too. But, they do have a couple good wins over Meekchicken and Minn.(& Iowa).
If we both win, I see no reason for them to jump us, especially with the player losses that UGA will be dealing with on Saturday; LSU should be expected to win.
There you go, this: If the question is who have you beaten, then LSU probably gets it. If the question is how have you beaten teams, then we do. And, there is no ambiguity to be involved in looking at "how you have beaten teams". The stats lines and the final score tell the whole tale. There is lots of ambiguity involved in labeling teams for a ranking; it all starts with pre-season rankings that shift around as we move forward, and may very well be very wrong in the beginning.. looking at you, SEC fodder teams.
How we have beaten teams is by far the biggest issue the committee has used to date... we have relatively comparable schedules, but the Bucks have looked far better in their wins than LSU, or Clemson. That is why we were moved back to #1 after we beat the nit wits. And, assuming we beat Wisky again, we will remain at #1, regardless of what LSU or Clemson do.
LOL.. sometimes I am just too lazy to Google things...
Hey, we may need a new word here, Dubbers... "Gloozy" - Adj - having apathy for or being to lazy to Google some topic.
Has anyone else noticed that The Predator doesn't ever tackle the QBs, he just kind of grabs them and folds them into a little crumple (new word - aka crumble pile) on the ground? This is a great way to avoid a targeting hit on the QBs and has to be demoralizing and embarrassing to them too!
I saw the play, it was on a kick return and he was kind of airborne and came down head 1st, and didn't have much of a chance to break his fall with an arm. I thought that he may be really hurt, but he did get up pretty quickly. Didn't play after that. I think he and his family are probably wanting to be very cautious with his head/neck injury. But, no doubt about it, this was a scary injury that could have been a lot worse.
Someone needs to post a gif here, to show us "how he gon eat!"
Uh - oh. The Nit Wits' Oline was already just average, but now their center is out of the game. I guarantee that their game plan is quick hit passes, and QB runs, and cut-back or counter handoffs. Their center position is going to be weak, and they will have to give him help in blocking schemes. This is a big problem for them. Add to that that Hamler may not be 100% or may not play, and this is a serious problem for their offense. 5 yard curls and out patters to their Tight end(s), and quick slants is all they are going to be able to use; A lot like the Wiscy game. They will not run the ball effectively against us.
I see a 42 - 10 win for the good guys.
No, Bladgers def is not better. Unless the opposition is intent on running the ball between the tackles, or has an inferior off line. Which, by the way, was the case in their1st 5 games. But, Illinois has some big studs in their def front 7 (did anyone else notice this?) and the Bladgers couldn't just line up and run the ball at will. If we make them have to throw the ball, and we will, they can't move the chains with any regularity. And, their off line will not wear down our def front, we will be fresh through the 4th quarter compared to them. Depth is on our side in every game we play this year.
Their defense has not played any offense that is even remotely as capable as our offense is. Bucky probably wins that game if they don't have those 2 turnovers, but they would win by a TD or so, against a worse than average Illinois team that has very limited offensive capability.
PSU had little to no run game against the MeekChicken front 7. The only thing they did was throw up their usual 50-50 balls, and get Hamler 1 on 1 with a slow safety. And, even if they did shut down their offense and try to let their def win the game, the MeekChicken (bad) offense ran up and down the field on them. At least Tressel had really good defenses that worked. PSU def looks small, and their off line looks average, and their def backs are average. PSU off is not good enough to run basic safe plays, you need a run game to do that.
I agree with other posters, PSU does not have the size or depth on def to be a top 10 team. And no running game on off. Clifford is a big QB, who does look to scramble but he is not fast, and if you keep him in the pocket, they might move the ball between the 20 yard lines some, but scoring in red zone won't happen against us.
Meekchicken should have won that game, at PSU during a white out. Think about that.
What? There is no Def line in the B1G that we will face this year that is better than the front 7 of MSU, at stopping the run. What are you basing this on? MSU is full of Srs and Jrs on Def, and they had been very good against the run. OSU is just too good. And, we have one of the best off coord in the country in Wilson, who has proved (at Oklahoma and Indiana) that he nows how to run the ball. PSU is not better than MSU, in their front 7 on def. PSU has 1 DE and 1 LB that we have to play well against. The other 5 guys are average, and we will wear them down just like we do everyone else.
I think PSU beats MSU, and _ichigan this year. They also don't have to play the Bladgers this year. I also think the B1G East will be decided in our PSU game, as long as we beat Bucky Bladger. _ichigan will have already lost twice before we play them.
I agree MB. Last year, as you recall, we started all of our drives in the 1st half inside our own 10 yard line. That kind of damn luck is what kept us from beating them by 5 TDs last year. All you have to do is make them play in space, and don't let them jamb that Strong safety in the box to stop the run. Indiana did just that, too. And, ASU beat them because their def was tired inthe 4th quarter. They ain't seen nothing yet. If our off has to play in the 4th quarter, we will dominate them up front; heck, we will probably start dominating them in the 3rd quarter.
Dantonio's def can't stop a good passing team; did you notice how their DBs were getting called for holding in their earlier games this year? That is how they play pass def.. hold on the outside until the rush gets there. MSU is built to stop the run. They have to. That is why they had success against us in 2013 and 2015, all we did was run the ball, and they stacked the box and stopped us.
Talent difference is very big this year. They can play with the Bladgers, because Bucky is too stupid to modernize their offense and try to throw the ball effectively. They can not play at our level, not even close. Bucks win by 4 TDs.
I think a key point of data (I haven't seen) is how many plays each team ran. Nebby had almost 700 yds, so they obviously kept the ball a long time, i.e. lots more plays than Illinois. I didn't watch this game either, so I don't have any visual to rely on...
I want to see how our buckeyes are playing for 60 minutes. We have yet to see how dominant our Off and Def can be in the 4th qtr, with our starters in the game. That is why I am not worried about this game, or any other reg season game. No one in the B1G has the depth to hang with us for 4 quarters.
If you want a better evaluation of how good the Bucks are to this point, you have to add 21 points to our score in each of the 1st 4 games. And that is probably an under-estimation in 3 of them. If we keep our 1st team D in the game for 60 minutes in those games, it would fully expose how dominant we are, especially in the 4th quarter. A rested "Predator" coming after your QB in the 4th quarter, when your O-line is draggin'?
That is the reality of how good this team is. And, there is no doubt in my mind that if we even have to have our 1st team D in the game in the 4th quarter, Neby ain't scoring on us.
Cincinnati was the best team probably, and we had backkups in the game in the 3rd and 4th quarters.. and their QB got knocked around big time. Martinez will get hammered, if he thinks he can run the ball and beat us.
In between the 30 yard lines, maybe. Close to the red zone... good luck.
Stole my comment... I love Indian cuisine, and I put Curry in my Chili!
2001 The Game, was there in stadium watching JT's "you will be proud of your Buckeyes" speech some true. Even though our record that year wasn't good, to beat them up was pure 1990's payback gold.
2002 Holy Buckeye game at Purdue - was there in stadium watching and seated on the aisle in the end zone where Jenkins caught the TD pass.. all Buckeye crowd in that end zone, we went crazy, I started running up and down the aisle just screaming... saw myself later on TV clips of that play. That was a good Purdue Def team, and they had their safeties way down in the box daring us to throw the ball, which we didn't all game until....
2002 The Game, was there watching in the stadium as Mike Doss basically stopped their running game the whole game. The crowd started climbing over the walls and security "tried" to keep them off the field, but finally just gave up... we stayed for 45 minutes watching the pandemonium - goal posts being climbed, and lots of turf being torn up. Took my girlfriend at the time to the Heiny Gate hotel (holiday in on Lane ave.) to watch the 2003 NC game against Miami... there was about 60 people in one of their meeting roooms with booze, food, screaming, cussing and we just went crazy when Cie Grant grabbed Dorsey...
2006 The Game, was there watching in the stadium. Pretty cool to watch Troy do his charging bull sprint during senior day activities, then to watch how helpless the M defense was in trying to stop our passing game. Our def that year was not nearly as strong as 2005 def was, so M moved the ball really well in 2nd half... but, I don't have to tell you how the game turned out.
Hey WM24, his dad Doug was a really fast WR who caught a lot of passes at OSU from Art Schlister... I notice that Drew is a Jr this fall, is 6'2", 165lbs and posts a 4.45 40yd and a 10.53 100M... do you think that his 40yd or 100M time is legit?(laser timed?) He appears to be a long strider in his "limited" videos on Hudl.. but he is a good looking prospect...
Zeke's personal best 100M in HS was 10.95 as a senior. Robinson already has a personal best of 10.7 in the 100M, as a junior. Robinson does not get caught from behind, and his film shows that the def players appear to be good size/caliber competition. I don't recall Zeke ever getting caught from behind at OSU.
I was a sophomore in HS, and so I was a reserve on our FB and BB teams that played against Pleasant. That year, they won the FB state championship on the last play of the game in regulation.. forced fumble on the other team's QB, and either midlam or mauk picked it up and ran for a TD as time expired. They then got up the next day and won their opening BB game, and went on to go 26-0 to win the state championship. Then the main players on both of those teams were on the Track team, and that team got state runner-up at the state track meet. This was when there was 3 HS divisions.. single A (Pleasant), double A and triple A.
It was not fun being in the North Central Conference during that time, and watching Pleasant win everything... except wrestling.
WTF BR13... did you input a typo? It definitely appears she has red eyes..but this woman shows no signs of having been struck on the arms or on or about her head/neck area. If you did not mistype, then you are lying; towards what end?
TCU speed is better than PSU speed. TCU is a bit smaller though, and that is where we wore them out. PSU Def front will not put pressure on our off line, and the 2nd half of the game in Slappy Valley will be all OSU. I even think that TCU got away with soooo much holding in that game that it emphasized their speed more. All of their quick hitters we just getting by or around our defenders and going for good gains.. and most of the time they were "holding" their blocks very well; too well if you ask me. TCU had nothing to lose; hold till you get called for it, and if you do it every play, some of them will get by. If you lose, you were supposed to lose, so it doesn't matter. If it works and you win, then you stole a game and you look good. Does this sound familiar? MSU does this same thing, especially their CBs that they play man press coverage with.
I do understand the idea that some of our back def 7 are "new", but taking bad angles for 3 straight games is beyond stupid. Sure, Oreg State did have very good speed, and so did TCU, but it is just stupid to not recognize that and take an angle that ensures you force the ball carrier back into the pursuit. The idea is not to stop the ball carrier at some predetermined point, it is to cut them off and limit the gain. This is the same shit we went thru in 2011, 2012 and 2013 with bad safety play and LBs who refuse to maintain gap integrity or coverage responsibilities.
OSU absolutely went conservative on offense when we got up big. Urban knew our D wasn't going to break against USC's offense, and all he had to do was play Tressell ball the entire 2nd half and it was a win, and that is what he did. USC cheated up to stop our run game, and we were not going to risk stopping the clock with incomplete passes.
Patterson has no choice but to scheme to stop our run game 1st. If he can't come up with a Def set that does that, he has no chance.
Every team we play that finds themselves not able to stop our run with their base D has to cheat a safety up to support it, or Urban's spread to run game will dominate them. THis is pure Sparty methodology, and it works if your DBs can cover(MSU = DBs holding basically). Being able to throw downfield forces that Def out of cheating a safety or nickel into the box. We killed MSU in the air, then, running the ball after they were forced to play their safeties back.
I absolutely agree ET... SMU held their own against TCU. And, TCU had their 1st teams in the entire game, well into the 4th qtr before they were just running out the clock. We haven't even seen 3 full qtrs of our 1st teams yet, let alone how dominant they can/will be in the 4th qtr. Imagine what the scores would have been if we had let them play the entire 1st 2 games? I guarantee that Haskins would have front-runner Heisman numbers, and our def stars on the D-line would too. Their score does not reflect how well SMU played against them; it does however show how good TCU is at capitalizing on errors, and this should be our real concern in this game.
Uh Oh Blu... part of our analysis on TTUN this year will be to see how ND plays against other teams... and, beating Ball State by 8 points doesn't look good. Yes, they played in the rain, but so did everyone in the midwest. Ball State better win the MAC, or at least 1 division of it, or that is not a real good ND team.
Me too Nib... I was at that game, and I was the only one in my entire row that stayed for the 2nd half... and, obviously, I wish I hadn't stayed. I am still pissed about a couple of officiating calls in that game. The wind was blowing really hard, and it had to be extremely difficult for the QDs to try to grip the ball to throw it. But, our Off play calling is what lost it for us. I was at 2007 *ichigan game, when Beanie ran over them for 200+ yards, and it was 30 degrees and light rain the entire game, miserable weather, but we won!