See, another chicken-egg. You think Heupel did a good job coaching Bradford, Lock, et al...I say they were already dynamic and he did nothing to assist them.
Mayfield was there when OU hired Riley. I suppose you could say he fell into Riley's lap.
I don't think Murray fell in his lap. Riley was already OC at Oklahoma when Murray decided to transfer there. When asked why he chose OU, he said "Coach Linc is one of, if not the best OC in the country." He chose them because Riley was doing great as OC, just as Fields transferred to OSU because Day had a good season. That isn't luck or "falling into his lap." He attracted Murray to the school because he's the best offensive coach in the country. And now he's attracted Hurts. And then Rattler.
but Mayfield was dynamic when Riley was OC and before that
It's a chicken-egg thing. You seem to think Mayfield and Murray were going to be good anyway, and Riley just helped them along. I argue Riley made Mayfield. (No comment on Murray)
Mayfield was very mediocre at Texas Tech. A walk on with 127 rating, 6.8 yd/att, and a 12TD/9INT. That's why Oklahoma didn't offer him a scholarship when he transferred. He wasn't very good. Riley made Mayfield dynamic. In his first season, under Riley, he put up: 173 rating, 9.4 yd/att, and 36TD/7INT. (Unless you want to argue that Mayfield became dynamic during the 2014 season he sat out. He would have been on the scout team learning under OC Josh Heupel. Of course, Heupel coached so poorly in 2014 he was fired. That's when OU brought in Riley.)
I'd put Riley as #1. When Day, an OC, was elevated, what did he do? He cleaned house and remade the defense the way he wanted it. Riley couldn't do that. He was absolutely handcuffed by Stoops' brother being the DC. He couldn't make that change, even though everyone knew that DC Stoops is a terrible coach. Yet, Riley made the playoff both years he's been at Oklahoma even with 1.5 seasons of Mike Stoops. That's unbelievable. Now enough time has passed that he could remake the D his way. I am not down on Grinch, because he is better than Mike Stoops.
This kid should be thinking about his best interests, not getting back at Ohio State. He clearly picked Michigan because OSU rejected him.
when your top pro style schools aren't offering you I don't care how many stars you have... it's worrisome..
Exactly, it is worrying. McCarthy doesn't have major offers. No ND, OK, CLEM, ALA, or UGA. No one is knocking down his door with prime offers, so he just committed out of spite. Not his best move. If he can't commit to OSU, he should take his time and find the right fit instead of trying to spite OSU.
It's exactly like Greg Mattison. He wanted the DC gig at Michigan, but Harbaugh clearly said "you're not good enough to be DC here." No one was knocking down his door to be DC at major programs, so he jumped at a co-DC position and he took it out of spite. Not his best move. He should have taken his time and waited for a real DC position, but he acted like JJ McCarthy.
Kevin Harrish had a horrible error/typo in the original posting. He did write that Georgia was the #4 team and in the playoff. 11W corrected it in relatively quick order, but it was there. Maybe that humiliating mistake is where bucknut212's confusion came from.
Lost 36-16, 20 points
Stanford doesn't suck. They went 8-4, all four losses coming against ranked teams (ND, WASH, WSU, UTAH). S&P+ ranks them 27th. ESPN's FPI ranks them 19th. Sagarin ranks them 22nd. That's a pretty solid win, actually. More impressive than NW. (S&P+ 80th, ESPN FPI 41st, Sagarin 37th)
Houston won the AAC championship in 2015.
I should also point out that Michigan is averaging 19ppg on the road, minus the Rutgers game. So yeah.. Different team away from home against teams with a pulse.
Different team, or just played tougher defenses on the road. I think it's opponent quality, not geography. According to S&P+ defense rankings, Michigan, minus Rutgers, has played very good defenses on the road. Notre Dame (3rd), MSU (4th), and NW (26th). Two elite defenses, one above average. Michigan outgained all three teams, (ND by only a couple yards, MSU by 301 yards, NW by 174 yards), but didn't put up many points. That's because the teams are 15th, 17th, and 34th in scoring defense.
At home, Michigan has only played one defense in that range (PSU, S&P+ 12th, 31st scoring D) and the other 7 teams they played at home were S&P+ 40th or lower. 7 chances to bolster their stats at home. OSU is 38th in S&P+ defense and 52nd in scoring D. S&P+ rankings are opponent adjusted, so to be 38th nationally when there are only 65 or so Power 5 teams means OSU is a below average Power Five defense.
Speaking of unfinished products, there were numerous reports that OSU didn't prepare Devin Smith for the NFL.
That's another "all athlete, no Smith" success story.
Re: your comments on Worley, I'd add that the panelist (D. Wertheim) said that all three linebackers were high four stars. According to 247, Worley was a run of the mill three star with a composite rating of 0.8675.
yes, 24 points sounds ok, but if you're going to mention a missed opportunity (underthrow to McClaurin) then you should also mention that the last TD was in garbage time. Ohio State was down by 31 points with about 4:30 left. That's the definition of garbage time. Also, the only reason OSU was able to score the final TD was because Kirk Ferentz was toying with Meyer, going for a FAKE PUNT! while leading in garbage time. The short field after the failed fake allowed OSU to score. If Iowa punted and forced OSU to drive, a 5th interception was a lot more likely than a final TD, in my opinion.
Texas also scored on a 90 yard punt return in the 3rd quarter. So, 20 points for the offense, 21 points of fluke plays.
One thing I don't understand is the confidence surrounding Ryan Day's ability to churn out good passers. (He seems to turn his QBs into run first guys. Effective, yes, but definitely run first) In response to the first question, Kevin said "I guess I have a lot of faith in Ryan Day, Kevin Wilson and an uptempo offense..." I completely get the Kevin Wilson love, but Day has coordinated just terrible passing attacks in college.
Temple-2012- 120th Nationally in passing yards/game (but 31st rushing)
Boston College 2013- 114th (20th rushing)
Boston College 2014- 124th (15th rushing)
everyone that backs this team knew we were in trouble.
The first 23 predictions are all for OSU. Good for #24 Dgeneral.