Winning is important. Winning is great. But as we've begun to win without a roster filled with Ohio kids, I find myself caring less and less. I didn't go to school at Ohio State... so if OHIO State isn't winning (or even playing) with OHIO kids, what's so "Ohio" about Ohio State and why would a non-Ohio State graduate care that much? But in all honesty I find myself caring less and less about sports in general. The money and the privilege has really ruined it for me. Sorry for the rant.
There's a reason I don't watch pro football anymore (a few reasons actually) with the main one being that the franchises in Cleveland and Cincinnati are embarrassingly bad. Not just bad teams, but bad franchises led by terrible ownership and ignorant front office people. If for no other reason than to attract people to their games or to get viewers on their broadcasts, they should make an effort to draft Buckeyes. They can't perform any worse can they? It's not like drafting Ohio State players has helped to get them to where they are...
No offers to Ohio kids.
Everyone has an opinion and I'm not saying anyone is wrong, so to each his own: winning or winning as much as possible by representing Ohio with Ohio kids/players. The latter is definitely more important for me. Otherwise it's just like pro sports so I might as well watch pro football and root for the Browns or the Bengals (which I'm not interested in doing). I'm old and as my age increases my interest in "Ohio" State football decreases as the number of Ohio kids playing for "Ohio" State decreases as well.
Well known to who that he didn't call the plays? OSU fans are kept in the dark by Coach Meyer as to which "co-coordinator" calls the plays, both on offense and on defense. One OC, one DC, one HC. Stop playing around and get it straight.
I'm no college football coaching genius but it seems like the other guy (Warinner) needs a demotion too. I'm not clear on why this debacle has been laid at Beck's feet alone. I'm not a big fan of "co" coaching. One Head Coach. One Defensive Coordinator. One Offensive Coordinator. And one quarterback. Two of anything never works...
Seriously? Why? Who thinks this is a good idea. High schools play football on Friday nights. I'm sure college kids will love spending four hours in the stadium instead of partying.
"Penn State did some things" to take C. Samuel away. lol
With all due respect to Coach Meyer, coaches tend to think that all fans are idiots. If Penn State did some things to "take him away," we should have "done some things" to "exploit their efforts" to take one player away.
Out coached. Simple as that. Man-up. Admit the obvious. Take the blame. And move on.
The "offensive coordinators" should worry about what plays work or are working and should use that to dictate who gets the ball. If we worry so much about "touches." It's killing us.
"Meyer also said the way Ohio State calls its offensive plays isn’t going to change either. Co-offensive coordinators Ed Warinner and Tim Beck will remain in the press box and Meyer will continue to have a heavy influence on the offense."
Until that changes our offense will struggle against good defenses.
As much as I hate to say it (and unfortunately I say it more often than I would like to) I'm not as big of an Ohio State fan as I used to be, and the reason is that there are too many out of state players on the roster. I love Ohio, and I love Ohio State as our flagship university. But Ohio State football isn't as "Ohio" as it used to be. And win or lose that affects my interest in the program. I'll always support them over other universities, but I'm not the fan I was years ago when the players were mostly Ohio kids.
One of my biggest complaints over the past few years is that our DBs (due to scheme and coaching) do not play the ball. Tons of missed interceptions. And many catches allowed when they were right there to easily break up the catch, but they weren't looking for the ball so they couldn't knock it away.
I can't lie. The number of Ohio kids playing for "THE" Ohio State University keeps dropping and I don't like it. I understand that we feel that to win we need to go south and west and wherever to get talent. But for me there will come a time when Ohio State winning without Ohio kids will stop being of interest to me. I mean, Ohio State without Ohio kids really doesn't appeal to me. I'm a fan of "Ohio" State because of the "Ohio" part. Winning isn't everything.
It's hard to stop the run against a good team when you only put six guys in the box and you play a super conservative 2-deep coverage most of the time. But that's the Luke/Ash scheme so we might as well shut up and accept it.
So now your approach to the QB situation is to try and bring JT and his "myth" down, in an effort to build Cardale up? I'm not sure why I keep coming to this site.
Even though I prefer JT, this sounds like a bad, bad idea.
I just don't like it when people think fans shouldn't be allowed to question coaching. Fans make the game go. Fans have made Ohio State what it is today. I know that plenty of fans can't tell their a$$ from a hole in the ground, but as fans, they have the right to speak their mind. That's why I seldom visit the Ozone anymore. Too many fans there who attack anyone who doesn't toe-the-line. This is the USA, not North Korea for heaven's sake. Freedom to disagree.
I don't think so. I just like our offense better when he's running it.
While I agree that many fans are clueless, I find it just as offensive when people (or websites) unceremoniously lump those who disagree together and say that fans are ignorant fools for not loyally agreeing with Urban Meyer. This is the USA. This is sports. We are fans. We are absolutely allowed to disagree with anyone and anything we want to disagree with. I think we're a better team with JT at quarterback. I quantify my "ignorance" with "I hope I'm wrong." But I can say whatever I want, and disagree with Urban as much as I'd like. I can't believe that makes me (or the majority of us who disagree) "haters" or that I/we are "coming from a place of ignorance" simply for disagreeing. Yes, some commenters are certainly ignorant and definitely should shut up. But when I stop questioning our coach's decisions, I might as well stop watching and supporting Ohio State. And when I'm chastised for not jumping on the bandwagon, I will stop visiting the website that feels compelled to question my loyalty.
I hope I'm wrong but I disagree 100% with this decision. I'm afraid we're going to regret this decision. I really do hope I'm wrong.
I think JT is the answer, not Jones. We're a power run team first, right? If so, the QB who brings the most to the run game is JT. Without a doubt. And Zeke hasn't been Zeke this year (except for one carry in game one). He seems to be running with his head down, rather than his eyes up, seeing the field. The offensive line has been very, very average, which is a problem for both the running game and the passing game. But we are a run first offense, right? So we need to get the running game going, then play action and throw off of it. But, I'm just a Saturday afternoon coach, getting paid $0 a year to coach, so my opinion isn't relevant and doesn't matter.
Braxton is a great runner and an average passer. But to me his biggest weakness (or drawback as 11W puts it) are his reads on running plays. Far too often he gave it when he should've kept it, and kept it when he should've handed it off.
I disagree 100%. I love my Buckeyes, and maybe it's a sign that I'm just getting old, but I don't love football today as much as I did when teams actually played defense and didn't simply try to out-score the other guy. And that's OK I guess, because I am old. I watch only the Buckeyes now-a-days, and my interest in the game is waning severely. Don't get me wrong, I love shootouts when they took place in the old west or on the battlefields of WWII, but I stopped watching basketball many years ago, and I'm afraid that soon, football too will lose its appeal to me.
The defense got better when the coach calling the defense decided he would be brave enough to let them be aggressive and play moving forward instead of falling back. Kudos to that coach. It's amazing how much better those 11 guys are when they're not playing to bend, but they're allowed to be aggressive and to break the offense.
Call me a hater if you want, but I wouldn't say that is was "how" the defense played against Wisconsin, but how the defense was "allowed" to play against Wisconsin that made the difference...