Another reason for the rise is the probability that the Buckeyes beat TTUN has gone up considerably.
The preseason model dinged the Buckeyes for losing their coach, QB, most of their WR production and 1/2 their RB production. Now the current season data is coming in and their performance is showing up in the model.
Thank you for Justin Fields.
That's one heck of a hypothetical
11-1 LSU (loss to Bama)
12-1 UGA (loss to Bama)
12-1 OSU (loss to ?)
That debate would get a little heated I would imagine
I think you have to add something about records here...
6) 2 losses and you're out even if conference champ. See 2015 Stanford, 2016 PSU, 2017 OSU, and 2018 Washington
7) Undefeated Notre Dame is in
The "eye test" got OSU in to the CFP in 2014 and sos (win over Okie) got OSU into the CFP in 2016.
Actually the Buckeyes were pretty mediocre throughout 2015 and had already dropped in the polls before losing. The loss just cemented that and the next drop put them out of range. The scUM game was great but nobody had the Buckeyes in the top 4.
Looking back at that season I forgot that Iowa went 12-0 and went down to the wire against Sparty for the playoffs.
I wouldn't get into Ohio State at today's standards. Luckily it was easier in 1984
Looking at the S&P+ Overall Defense national rankings from last year:
2. Michigan State - expect them to lead the B1G in defense again this year
9. scUM - big losses to graduation and some pretty good recruits coming up
11. Penn State - return a lot of 4-star talent and have some playmakers
18. Iowa - some pretty key losses to graduation - ??
26. Ohio State - No Bosa but lots of depth on DL and DB's look outstanding and Hafley is highly regarded coach
29. Wisconsin - will be solid again
30. Northwestern - see Wisconsin
39. Minnesota - pffft
51. Maryland - ???
55. Nebraska - will get better
67. Rutgers - can Chris Ash do anything there?
75. Indiana - is it basketball season yet?
88. Purdue - Ohio State not scoring against this D in the red zone is baffling
115. Illinois - they're still shitty
Limit the explosive plays and it shouldn't be too hard for the Buckeyes to move into the top 15
Nailed it. Ohio State puts food on the Forde table when it energizes the vast quantity of haters. Throwing LSU or Clemson under the bus doesn't put food on the table.
I give him credit for carving out a living after he was canned from ESPN.
why is Hetuck?
Interesting - I didn't realize the NCAA got involved in the Zach Smith affair nor that the NCAA ran Urban Meyer out of town. I thought he retired from coaching and stepped into and Assistant Athletic Director job at Ohio State.
I learn something new here every day.
I always wondered what Ohio State has for policies/procedures around legal and regulatory issues. It seems a no-brainer to escalate known violations to the senior management/executive level for discussions with in-house counsel.
Be careful - that would make '42, '54, '57, and '61 as 0.5 title years for the Buckeyes and '70 probably about 1/16th of a title.
Swedes in Barstow
I could tell one about Kid Rock hitting on my wife right in front of me. His response when she laughed at him was priceless
I remember a smart coach benching Todd Boeckman for Terrelle Pryor. Maybe he is actually good at this
The ACC and SEC have benefited because they have had by far the 2 best teams - Clemson and Alabama. The B1G on the other hand has been outscored 69-0 in their last 2 appearances.
I want expansion strictly because my team has finished just outside the top 4 the last 2 years. If they had been in the top 4 I sure as s&%t wouldn't be calling for expansion.
I hear the same from TTUN and PSU fans at work
Fuck Urban. Ohio State is not good solely because of him. He probably wants people to think that but I suspect OSU turns a blind eye to everything shady he does that UM admin and fans would never allow.
Everybody thinks their side is on the up and up while the champs are dirty
Huh I guess this FPI is based largely on returning offensive production and returning coach. Logic says that would rate Ohio State lower since most of the offensive production graduated and the head coach left. Experience and talent level on the roster say that likely Ohio State is better than this ranking. The author then says Ohio State is likely better than this ranking due to other returning and incoming talent. Also this isn't a poll and all of the polls including ESPN will have Ohio State in their top 5 at the beginning of the season not to mention Ohio State is in the top 4 in Vegas odds so there is no disrespect going on.
Maybe we should have an ESPN FPI FOL (faux outrage level) with a formula:
ESPNFPIFOL = 1 / IQ
I said that last year and watched an undermanned Nebraska with a true frosh starting QB hang 31 on the Buckeyes in Ohio Stadium.
If the Buckeye defense isn't better then this will be a battle
No no no its just a calzone dude
upvote but to let you know that is part of Jon Bois' style. He is actually hilarious with his Breaking Madden Beeftank series and his Pretty Good series is excellent also.
Its interesting to see the use of 0.5 for national titles. By that measure Ohio State would be down to 5.5 total what with '42, '54, '57, '61, and '70 being split titles.