Not that this is an answer but a few years back I was in Cbus visiting & wanted to take my kids to The Shoe. The was an open gate, I went up to one of the people working there & asked if we could go in for a few minutes & they allowed it. Just told us to stay off the field. Was right around the time of Friday Night Lights. Seems to be an easier thing to do with kids...
Problem is, he guaranteed he'd be back & win the QB job after Urban retired. So he knew of the coaching change & said he'd be there & win the job. 100%. That will come up in this & may be the deciding factor.
A few thoughts: First, I love Urban Meyer the coach & man from what I've seen. I'm a much bigger OSU fan though. I do think he got a raw deal from OSU. I think he kept a man on too long in an attempt at loyalty to Earl Bruce... but I don't believe he ever "knew" what all was happening on the inside of the marriage of the ZS in question & did his best with the facts he had. He retired in part due to health issues, I think those are very real but the treatment he got from OSU facilitated the retirement.
I do think this is all eerily similar to what happened at UF. He was going to stick around there as well. But we all know he didn't - called games for a year then came to OSU. We as fans benefited greatly from that. As a fan, of course I'd be hurt if he ended up coaching in a year or 2. Because I believe him when he says he can't do it due to stress. I think he does indeed love OSU very much but if he were to coach again any time soon, it would absolutely be indicative as a pattern & in my humble opinion, a bad look. I don't see where he'd be able to be assistant AD & an announcer. Not that he wouldn't want to but it would appear to be a conflict of interest. Whatever happened in the 70s with Joe Paterno or Woody calling late season games/bowls - this is 2019 & I don't see how he could announce in a non-biased manner & stay on OSUs staff. Maybe I'm wrong.
So, yeah - love the dude & wish him all the best. The good he did as a coach should never be forgotten or taken for granted. I will absolutely not 'pull a Gator' & hate him for coaching should it happen - but it would certainly tarnish his credibility for me personally.
I thought so too!
That's our dude! I'm betting he gets on the field again in some capacity. If he keeps up with the literally miraculous progress, it'll happen!
This is gross.
I think he may have been expressing his sincere thoughts about/love for OSU. But I’m one of those damned idealists...
I could be wrong. I’m old & lost touch with recruiting completely. All I know is that I watched the QB 1 documentary with him and Jake Fromm. They kept saying five star in that. He won some sort of “best high school football player ever” award & never lost a game. So all I have to go by is that and it made him look very impressive. I think we can all say what we want to say to make it fit our narrative. 4*, 5*, I’d like to see what he can do and just wonder if bringing in a QB for a year is worth losing him altogether. That’s all ...
Idk...Martell never lost & was also 5*. Dude’s good. Really really good. Don’t want him transferring! Unless Haskins goes, Martell comes in, crushes while Fields sits, takes off after a great year then Fields is in the wings...none of this makes since to this outsider.
This isn’t going to be a popular take, but I think Weber is the best RB on the team. At his best, which he wsn’t able to be at often, he’s an excited due to watch & as dynamic a runner as I’ve seen at OSU! Very Carlos Hyde-esquire. Nobody else can ever be like Zeke, but at his best Weber is close. I love Dobbins but fully believe Weber has a breakaway gear Dobbins hasn’t shown yet. I’ll miss this dude a lot
Yes, yes, & YES! So much agreed!
I hate to admit it, but I am all for this idea! Of course I can’t happen but man I would watch that game!
I don’t think so. Alabama struggled with the damn Citadel for a minute. Winning & being told you’re the best all the time by people around you & the media, when some of your guys are only 18...it’s hard man. Ohio state has a culture of winning a whole lot. That’s the only cultural issue I see. The history of dropping a game to a team like Purdue goes back long before Urban Meyer.
Spoken like a brilliant man who knows the the ills of angering this team. Bravo Mr Fitzgerald, much better chess move than than anything that one team made. Don’t sleep on these guys...they will be prepared & very hungry.
More McCall please,
I thought it was very satisfactory result given the defense they were facing. Could be better, has also been much worse. If the defense can keep p that level & the offense puts it together some more... things could look much worse is all I’ll say!
No bowl game? Lol - that loss really sucked and there are glaring weaknesses... but there’s going to be a bowl game dude. This kind of end of the world talk is a little frustrating to read.
*Edit - OK I see you said it’s a good thing we got to seven wins... I’m as worried as anyone man, but traditionally, these losses have woken them up not knock them out. My faith is in that tradition holding.
The turds up north or The squirts up north... all amounts to a pile of shit one way or another.
That's an incredibly valid point! How does McMurphy get those texts? Because if if CS took those pictures of ZS's or her mom's phone, that tells me there was some sort of planning on her part. Just saying. The fact those texts are being produced should actually raise some serious questions.
Thank you for reading it! with 700 comments now - I didn't think anyone would see it but I had to say something...
I haven't logged in & posted in a while. Life happened. But I have to now. My wife & I had this exact conversation recently. What if this is her trying to hurt him? What if he's telling the truth, or at minimum, she's equally guilty? I'm sorry but sometimes, women are the aggressors. Not every woman who claims abuse is abused in the manner they claim. Sometimes, they're angry. Something about a fine line between love & hate. Live long enough & you'll love someone right into hate. I promise. Every media outlet I've seen rushed to shout "fire Urban!" including this one at times. But I wanted to hear the full story. Not read a one sided article by a man who is dying to stay relevant & has admitted as much. Who edited the story & didn't note it. Not hear an answer by UFM at media days where I could've sworn he was saying when I heard the answer, that there never was an arrest. And there was not. There will be more to this.
I feel as if many OSU pundits, in an attempt to not appear to be like the Penn State fan base, rushed to show the world they were better than that. But in doing so - forgot about due process.
None of this is to say Zach Smith is without blame. It's obvious to me he cheated on his wife & did so flagrantly. I won't claim he's a good guy. I'm not a guy that blindly believes anything. I don't think Urban Meyer is incapable of wrong because he coaches the school I love. I also won't jump up to say he should lose his job because a woman makes an accusation & a reporter prints a story. But this whole thing, what's happened here with the sports writers & media at large - if it turns out this was any emotionally disturbed woman who did indeed have an ax to grind - well, I hope to see some apologies. Some admitting of jumping to the wrong conclusion. We live in a world where people would rather be right than be good. Hell bent on letting you know their way is the only way. Apologies are hard to come by. But it's looking more & more like a mass of apologies may be owed Urban Meyer & I hope to see them in print & on-screen here & elsewhere.