Completely agree. Whether I agree with all of Sanitarian's opinions or not, his posts have been informative and basically non-political.
Sawyer's scouting report reads basically to a "T" what you would expect to hear for Joey/Nick Bosa, with a slightly better indication of athletic ability. I'm good with that!
Good reasoning and explanation.
Once Carton announced his transfer, my first thought was OSU would definitely need another PG for next year's roster. But after giving it more thought and with all the discussion on this board (including information/stats such as what you presented above), I would agree that it really does not seem necessary.
Obviously the biggest factor in all this depends on CJ Walker continuing to play the way he did down the stretch of this past season. If he can do that, I think adding another grad PG would take away too much playing time from others who will make this team more dynamic and harder to defend. At this point it just doesn't feel like there is a realistic option that is good enough to see extended minutes.
The other factor being a player we just haven't seen much of yet (Sueing), but who seems to have the ability and skill set to be another "creator" for the Buckeyes. I said it once and I'll say it again - watching his highlights, he really reminds me of a bigger DJ Carton. The way he attacks the rim off the bounce and even his left-handed shooting stroke looks similar to Carton's. Sueing may not be a typical point guard who will find guys for easy buckets, but his ability to beat his man and penetrate into the lane, forcing defensive rotations, will go a long way of opening up open looks for Washington, Towns, Muhammed, etc.
He truly has been ahead of the game on this compared to many others. Cancelling the Arnold like he did well before any positive cases were found in Ohio most definitely slowed down the spread.
Agree, a lot of IFs here but my thoughts/opinion are similar to yours.
IF Carton returns and IF Ohio State can land Towns (assuming Kaleb and one other leave after this season), this could be one heck of an offensive team next year. Obviously if for some reason Kaleb returns, that probably makes them even better.
EJ Liddell is showing signs of a guy who could become a dominant college player. Right now as a freshman, the mental side of the game still shows up/holds him back at times. But his ability in the post and mid-post are outstanding. I think eventually he will become a consistent threat from 3-pt range as well.
Justice Sueing looks like a larger version of DJ Carton. Left-handed, similar shooting motion. Both are dynamic attacking the rim. You put them on the floor together and watch out.
IF Ohio State has guys like this (along with either Towns or Wesson) on the floor who can be relied upon to score consistently, it suddenly makes Luther a better player because you don't have to rely on him to score. Same with Musa Jallow. As 5th options on the court, their scoring ability becomes a luxury and you can ride their defensive abilities. Then Duane, with his ability to get hot at any time, becomes even more difficult to guard. You have guys who can shoot it and guys who can attack the paint. CJ Walker's improvement in that area has been impressive as well, and you would expect that to continue into his senior season.
Sneaky good athleticism and shows the ability to finish through contact at the rim. Not sure how well he defends or protects the rim, but offensively it looks like he can help OSU right away next year.
I feel like you are right and Smith is the mystery guy. He does not yet have an offer, so that could potentially be part of the reason to hold off. Guessing an offer could be coming sooner rather than later...?
Surprised no one has mentioned Gary Patterson. What he has built over time at TCU is pretty impressive. And his ability to teach/game plan as a defensive coach is right up there at the top of the FBS.
I get your stance, because I had a little bit of the same thoughts. But here's why I feel good about Coombs regardless of the fact he is a former OSU coach...
Coombs was an elite college CB coach at an elite program for an extended period of time. In fact, basically the longer he was on the job the better the CB's played. Remember the 2016 secondary, producing 3 first round draft picks? Not to mention, he is one of the best recruiters in the country. The group of CB's he brought in the room in 2016 was out of this world (Okudah, Wade, Riep, Williamson). Recruits across the country trusted him to develop them into 1st round draft picks. He connects with his players and with recruits.
That was just his time in Columbus. The past two seasons he's improved his craft in the NFL. Titans players raved about his energy and passion. He won over the DB room as a first-time NFL coach, and was part of a defensive staff that helped take a team that was 25th in passing defense in 2017, and turned them into a top-10 passing defense both in 2018 (6th) and 2019 (9th).
I am confident Coombs has learned a ton over the past two seasons with his NFL experience. He worked under Dean Pees, who carved out an impressive career as an NFL defensive coordinator. Ryan Day would not offer this job to Coombs just to appease him - he's doing it because he believes Coombs' experience/knowledge will get the job done. Add in his recruiting ability and the energy he will bring to the program and I think it is a win across the board.
Honestly, the team has become unwatchable on offense and lackadaisical on defense. The defensive side has been most puzzling, especially after how they had performed the first 10-12 games of the season.
On offense, they just don't run in transition to get easy baskets. And on top of that, in the half-court their sets really do not lead to many open opportunities. I've basically loved everything about Chris Holtmann's tenure to this point - but the half-court offense this year has been dreadful. When the ball stops moving, it almost always results in a bad forced shot or a turnover. Plus, there seems to be no real effort to work off a high-ball screen. If you put the ball in Carton's hands, spread the floor, and use either Wesson to set the high screen, that should lead to a decent scoring opportunity every time down the floor.
Of course, Carton's turnover issues and virtually everyone's inability to make a contested shot at the rim really makes everything look bad in the end.
He was originally committed to South Carolina, so I'm guessing this is a token top 5 to show he still has love for the coaches/players/fans. I think it's safe to say USC is out and he truly has a top 4...
For those that actually watched LSU at all in 2018, I think it was pretty apparent he was doing just fine. His o-line couldn't protect him and his WRs couldn't catch the ball. MANY times, their offense resulted in called QB power/draw because the passing game was just not in sync and because they knew Joe was a tough runner.
His turnaround this season is shocking not because of how "bad" or "average" he was last year - it is shocking because he put up stats we've never seen before and did it in the SEC.
If the Bengals can protect Burrow, I think he will do well even as a rookie. But that is a big if. That has been their achilles heel for a long time.
Problem being, I'm not sure Clemson's defense is truly "elite" after seeing what a healthy OSU did to them.
Don't get me wrong, they are very good - I'm not going to downgrade Clemson just because I'm salty they beat OSU. BUT, Ohio State had literally zero chunk passing plays against Clemson and still put up over 300 yards passing and over 500 yards total offense. Ohio State had a great offense this season, but LSU's ability to make big plays in the passing game is on a whole different level.
I am still frustrated by the fact of how Ohio State moved the ball the way they did against Clemson, and how they slowed down Clemson's big-play receivers, yet could not win the game. Precision in the passing game was not as crisp as it needed to be (but yet again, still put up over 300 yards) - but that won't be the case with Burrow and these LSU receivers. I have a feeling they will make a large fair share of big plays tonight.
It has been crazy to see this team just trip all over itself the past few weeks. The turnovers have been absolutely mind-blowing. Guys have trouble catching simple passes, dribble the ball off their foot, lose the ball on the way up for a layup more often than any team I've ever seen... the list goes on and on.
I mentioned in a different post that Carton and Walker have got to get back to attacking the paint. When they do that, it opens up so much for the outside shooters, which then leads to opponents having to rotate and scramble on defense. When OSU is sharing the ball they look outstanding. When they get into the halfcourt slog, with Wesson holding the ball or guys dribbling the air out of the ball, they've been VERY ineffective.
It will be interesting to watch how this team gets through this stretch, and what Holtmann decides to do on the offensive side. Right now the B1G teams know what OSU wants to do, and have taken it away. They've got to adjust.. and in my opinion the best way for that to happen is to give Carton the green light to attack, turnovers be damned. They turn the ball over enough as it is in the half-court - why not let Carton do his thing and attempt to create some offense for himself or others?
Don't forget the offensive staff Luke Fickell had to work with on that 2011 team. Plus the suspensions, injuries, etc. That was a throwaway year for a lot of reasons, and yet Fickell kept recruiting and kept it afloat.
With that said, I'm not one that believes Luke Fickell is ever destined to be the Head Football Coach at The Ohio State University. Vrabel, if he continues to ascend with the Titans, will have quite the overall football resume.
He showed unbelievable hands all year with his ability to catch/high-point the ball in traffic.
K.J. Hill will be tough to replace due to the sheer usage he provided the past few years, but the unsung guy who I feel like will be extremely tough to replace, and who came up with big-time, tough catches time after time this season is Austin Mack. Mack made some really incredible catches and latched on to the ball in some really critical situations this season. A guy like Garrett Wilson can hopefully replace those critical receptions - just give him a chance to make the play and he's already shown the ability to do that.
With fewer proven options in 2020, I think we may see some gaudy numbers put up by Olave/Wilson - probably bigger than we've been accustomed to seeing during the last 7-8 years. 2018 was a bit of an anomaly with as much as Haskins threw the ball (Parris Campbell 90 rec, over 1000 yds; KJ Hill 70 rec, almost 900 yds), but we may see something more similar to 2018 for Olave and Wilson, and then a spreading of the wealth to the others.
I believe that was the Wray's (Max and Jake).
At this point, guys are letting their struggles on the offensive end affect the defensive side. Washington, especially. He has struggled to make shots since coming back from the rib injury, and time after time on the defensive end he completely loses his man - sometimes on simple rotations.
Carton finally showed some aggression last night, which was good to see. The last two games against WV and Wisc, he was WAY too passive and really had no positive impact on the game. He's just too talented to let that happen.
The key to this team starts with the two PG's, Walker and Carton, and then goes through Washington and Muhammad. When Walker and Carton are penetrating, beating guys off the dribble and forcing defensive rotations, it opens up so much space for others. That was the issue with this team last year - no one could create offense for themselves or others. Then, once CJ and DJ are doing this, Muhammad and Washington have got to make shots once again. They did early in the season and everything looked great. When you can't make open shots, everything is a slog.
Plus, he is right now a borderline 1st round pick and several other definite to borderline 1st round picks have either already announced or are rumored to announce their return to Alabama. Suddenly there are fewer guys to compete with for 1st round consideration.
Well.. it is interesting LR said there "is a bit of growing optimism" when guys like Birm in the past have said Wade is "gone." If LR is live-streaming, they will want as many viewers as possible. More people will watch if they think there is even a chance Wade announces his return instead of announcing his intention to go to the NFL.
I hate to be pessimistic because him returning would be enormous for the Buckeyes, but I just have a hard time believing Wade won't feel like he is ready to go pro now.
I like Chambers as well, but I think Crowley is the guy on the roster that has a bit more wiggle and a chance to be the next great OSU running back. Those two together, along with Master Teague's power and straight line speed, should make for a very good backfield next year.
Mike Hartline already spent a couple years as an offensive QC coach at OSU. Back in 2015-16 I believe. He would not have worked with Day or Wilson, or anyone still on the offensive staff for that matter. I think it is doubtful he would be a QB coach candidate without true FBS recruiting experience.
But with the obvious connections he has on staff, who knows...
This question keeps coming up about why White didn't play this year. Only one thing makes sense to me.
I seem to remember White sort of coming "out of nowhere" last year. He stepped in for Fuller and played so well against Nebraska. The reasons given why he had not been on the field much to that point weren't really specific, but coaches talked about him "earning trust" with his practice performances leading up to that point. Once he proved his ability in a game situation, it was impossible for the coaches to take him off the field.
Maybe (and I have no inside knowledge) he truly does not practice well? A new group of defensive coaches came in and replaced everyone who eventually trusted White's game ability. Maybe these coaches witnessed the same practice habits that kept White on the bench last year until all other options had been exhausted. Wint, Pryor, etc. all were given opportunities last season before White.
Honestly, as a first time head coaching gig, I feel like BC is a really great opportunity. Hafley is an East Coast guy plus he now has some ties recruiting nationally due to his connections at OSU. Miami and FSU are historically bad compared obviously to what those programs have been.
There is literally no one in the ACC other than Clemson that has been consistently successful in years. And, BC has some really good history as a program. Boston College would be a tough job to turn down as a first-time head coach.