Great news! You will continue to be bathed in prayer.
This is the only take needed in this thread.
No doubt. If you feel it is 51% accurate, why not run with it. Also, there are plenty of ways to move an Off the record conversation through an organization without betraying trust, at least directly :)
Hell, look at Ari Wasserman getting the shout out yesterday. He is obviously pretty plugged into someone at highest levels (agent, AD office, doubtful Meyer family), but still didn't get it entirely right. As an aside, he seemed to appreciate the moment yesterday and wasn't an a$$.
Did people not listen to the Rinaldi interview on Greeny's show yesterday? He talked about Shelley and Urban having an open conversation about "do I look healthy" and "what if this was our last year?". All in front of Rinaldi prior to his interview, off the record of course. All to say, Rinaldi hears/sees this, then sideline headaches become the norm, and Rinaldi goes to ESPN brass and says "I bet Urban is done".
Here is a theory. Urban understands all of these issues addressed above but wants to take a systematic non-alienating approach. He began addressing issues with seeing Schiano take the Tennessee job and hiring breath of fresh air in Grinch (oops). Then he decided to not offer raises to Davis and Smith in the spring, suggesting they find work somewhere else (doesn't address Stud). My guess is he is trying to take the Saban approach to hire COO's of offense and defense. Had he been more decisive and less "kind" he would have cut Davis and Smith loose and not allowed Schiano to return, and we would be having far different conversations right now. I'm sure that keeps him up at night, but not convinced he wants to change his approach. Otherwise, he would have cut Davis loose mid-season.
Needless to say, the plan backfired with Schiano and Smith fiascos. Now he is trying to piece things together with a DC whose confidence is shaken and then the preseason happens. I know none of this is new or surprising but having a disaster in the offseason is though, but typically salvageable. Disasters in season are irreparable.
He is just trying to keep his head above water, all with a health issue.
I’m not sure the comparisons are equivalent. Belicheck coaches men who own their own actions, and represents a semi-private organization/company.
Urban’s responsibilities are different as a university representative. Plus Urban does not represent himself as a cold calculated, public be damned individual.
Beat me by 20 seconds.
Do people think he will be able to avoid the media for the rest of eternity? This is actually one of the better PR moves I’ve seen then make at least strategically.
Answer the questions on the Sunday morning when no one cares about college football, then on Mondays press conference he can simply say “I have already answered that question”.
I'll share a quick story from the Buckeye Cruise from for Cancer that told me everything I needed to know about Urban and Shelley's character. We were coming back from a day on the island. and there was a line of 200 to 300 people waiting to get a shuttle back to the ship. Urban and Shelly were in the middle of it engaging people without irritation, and more importantly not requesting special treatment. They could have easily requested to be at the front of the line, And no one would have said anything or thought less of them.
I have worked with multiple c-level executives and board members of publicly traded companies that operate with far more entitlement and less humility than the Meyers.
I think Borland coming back stabilizes the crew with Browning coming off. So they will at least be sound. I actually thought the second unit of Hilliard, Jones, and Booker looked more instinctive and downhill. Was weird watching last years MSU game. Most snaps were Borland; Harrison and Booker. Looked great Bottom line; not panicking
I’m more concerned about the poor safety play, Fuller helps, but both were really slow. I wonder if moving Arnette, or elevating Proctor will be long term solution. There is plenty of CB depth to fill gap with Wade and Williamson.
Yeah, I was accused of being at bad father on Twitter because I brought up the Hyde, Dunn and Klein suspensions.
Good catch Extra. I was going to correct your lack of punctuation in the post below but determined the Percocet I'm on was making me too grumpy. Go Bucks, free Urban. :-)
Was trying to infer that without saying. ;) This is quite the baller move In my opinion. This is Urban taking the fight to the BOT and Drake. Pretty impressive really.
Strong article here from Thamel. This to me is the set up for Urban to keep his job. Would be easy to see the University set up an article like this to prime the pump.
Completely agree. I figured Urban would say “I’m too old for this stuff” an ride off into the sunset. This tells me he is calling BS and the administraton agrees. Knowing that the PR would be brutal to unequivocally support they are buying time to let rational thought enter.
Day was given huge raise and named OC after a year so they clearly think he has the long term goods and could be argued was head coach in waiting anyways.
If things go sideways you hope to catch some Lincoln Riley magic.
Your last comment is interesting, and I believe is really at the heart of the matter. Would we be using words like "evidence" or would be using words like "alleged" if it were Larry Johnson who was accused? Admittedly, I have not seen the police reports, but the only evidence I have seen mentioned is a stretched shirt. I have not seen mention of bruising, injury, etc.
Again, ZS HAD to be fired for poor decision making an immaturity. 100% has to get his life in order. I simply have not seen enough "evidence" to state that his firing is a result of DV evidence. Maybe I am naive about our criminal justice systems to get a conviction, or at least get to trial.
I am guessing that Urban will lose more sleep because he was unable to keep his mentor's grandson out of trouble than answering press questions.
Considering ZS was suggested to find other jobs in the offseason, a salary that was one of 2 that did not include an increase, oh and the fact that Ryan Day was going to spend more time with WRs, my guess is that Urban would have been perfectly content to cut him loose prior.
In other words, I think Urban, having infinitely better information than you or I, feels content in how he managed.
Well said. Much better than what I attempted to say.
Maybe because he knows the situation as well as anyone...... we have one side.
Had to be fired today due to public perception, not because the evidence warrants.
Jeez. Mobs these days are quite remarkable. Should ZS have been fired? Absolutely. Did ZS deserve to be fired? Maybe. Fantastic, not average recruiter with a pipeline to the NFL, that had questionable in game results and clearly some poor decision making. We have heard one side of the story, and his attorney asked some compelling questions, albeit irrelevant in the court of public perception
My guess is this is one of the hardest personnel decisions Urban has ever made. Probably feels like he let Earle down.
Again, had to do it, but I am not going to dance on ZS’s grave.
I'm in an Audible binge, as I find it gets me out of bed to walk the dogs much quicker. Just finished:
Bobiverse trilogy by Dennis Taylor - think ready player one meets the Martian
The Singularity Trap - also Taylor. I liked it better than the Bobiverse Trilogy
Neil Gaiman's reading of the Graveyard Book is incredible. Came from Tim Ferris recommendation
The Rational Optimist - Matt Ridley
If you are feeling academic, Why Nations Fail - Interesting look at modern civilazation
Big fan of Ferris. His Jocko WIillink episode is must listening in terms of podcasts. Tribe is the perfect, "I have 10-30 minutes to kill, what do I do instead of watching TV" book.
I agree here, that there was "resolution" but possibly not the resolution we were hoping for or expecting. The Jennings made it out alive and Stan was the same dolt he was throughout the series. I found the train scene tough and unexpected which was a great twist as was Stan and Henry's reunion.
The Watch pod talked about how it was really the first series that did not end with justice. They mentioned Breaking Bad as a show where everyone got what they deserved in the end, where here, no one did. No one paid for their misdeeds or good-heartedness rewarded. Maybe that is where the rub lies.
This is brilliant and I apologize if it has been posted before. This along with lonely guy standing and clapping in middle of UM fans are my favorite GIFs.
Woods is all SG and will keep Jackson at PG. would expect Muhammad to be other guard in 3 G lineup with Young at 4 and Wesson at 5. Of course Andre or Musa could be starters instead of LM, but as Holtman said, versatility will be the focus.