This comment is peak homer-ism.
I’m not the PC policia by any stretch.. but are we really gonna sit here and crack on the kids name because he is no longer a Buckeye.
30 days ago you would have gladly carried Tathan’s bags at the airport, now he’s a jerk with a funny name.
KJ Hill is a boss.
Without him we might be a 3 loss unranked team at this time.
Yes we had the #2 class last year, and not one of them are playing meaningful snaps.. Meanwhile Purdue lands one 4-star kid this decade and he just took our lunch money on national TV.
I find most of what you said to be true, but the real boogie man is in the mirror, not in the SEC. We are not developing talent well and we are schematically terrible on the field.
We are surviving on tier-1 recruiting. In my opinion this is Urban Meyer’s specialty. It’s hard to lose when you have almost all 4-5 star guys out there, but we are still finding a way.
If you watched that game last night you would have thought Purdue was the team with perrenial top-5 recruiting classes. They were just better coached and better prepared.
That being said, the truly concerning thing to me last night was what looked to be a complete almost melt-down of focus. That’s not typical for Ohio State football, and when you go down that road any team can beat you. Scheduling an extra tomato-can every year is not going to make us as good as Alabama.
But I hear you about the weather.. I really don’t think the B1G gets enough credit for dealing with winter conditions for half the year.. still not a valid excuse for shitting the bed against an unranked team.
Has he ever been hit by a Bosa?
Jeez.. she didn’t have to come all the way down..
She could have just texted.
McMurphy set to release Tim Tebow dick pics at 11:58am EST today.
Beavers are actually very menacing:
At least one beaver attack on a human is known to have been fatal: a 60-year-old fisherman in Belarus died in 2013 after a beaver bit open an artery in his leg. The incident was described by the media as "the latest in a series of beaver attacks on humans in the country", where a burgeoning beaver population has led to increased aggressive interactions with people. However, others criticized the victim, noting that he likely provoked the attack when he grabbed the beaver in an effort to take a photo with it
Non-fatal attacks on humans have included: an attack on a saltwater snorkeler off the coast of Nova Scotia, which was unusual given that beavers are usually limited to fresh water; the mauling of an elderly woman in Virginia by a rabid beaver; an attack on a Boy Scout leader in Pennsylvania, after which members of the Scout troop killed the rabid animal by stoning; and an attack on a man swimming in Dobra River, Croatia.
Beaver attacks can also be fatal for domestic animals. A dog died during surgery after being bitten by a beaver in 2010 at University Lake in Alaska, where a number of unprovoked attacks against pets were recorded. A husky was killed by a beaver attack in Alberta, which has also had several non-fatal attacks.
I see a ‘Real Housewives of college football’ series on the hoizon.
In the season finale. Who will get the rose at the Rose Bowl?
Wait til week 3 when Dobo’s wife makes an appearance and turns this whole thing on its head.
Probably some decendent of Woody Hayes or Neil Armstrong...
He is an absolute nasty savage.
I feel like we have needed a real pit-bull in the secondary for quite some time. Denzel had a little bit of that too, but Tyreke seems like a guy that would strike fear in the hearts & minds of opponents.
Mike Doss was that kinda guy.
I had a guy that use to always come to work banged up. Scratches on his face, busted lip, etc....
He use to always have the same type of stories.. "I was hanging blinds last night and fell"... "my pit-bull scratched me up" (He didn't have a dog)
Everybody knew he and the old lady loved the sauce and use to fight like a couple of feral cats.
I couldn't mind my own business fast enough.
Damn, your comment is 50-0 like Floyd for the upvotes/downvotes... Not an easy feat in these tumultuous times.
I will give you a downvote so you stay motivated.
You should have counter-protested.
If you don't slow down here pal, I'm going to take back the upvote I gave you.
I'm not sure you deserve it.
Of course.. Yes, you can state your opinion, even the variety of opinion that would require ALL CAPS.
Relax buddy, I think we're on the same side.
If you are trying to avoid people's opinions on the matter, perhaps it would be better to avoid the comments thread of a fan-site article discussing the matter to which you are trying to avoid. I come here because I want to read other's points of view. Yes we have discussed this ad nauseam at this point, but again, that should be expected when you read and participate in these comments and discussions.
To your point, yes I somewhat agree with what you saying, and I certainly hope you are correct.
But that's really what worries me. The evidence to clear Urban's name should be readily available. If they have this exonerating proof and they are just going to sit on it for two weeks, that seems like it would be a great disservice to not just Urban Meyer, but also the team and fan-base.
I'm not buying the 'they just want to make sure' theory. This concrete evidence should be readily available and truthfully they should have had that resolved well before Urban even sat down and penned that letter, and should not have even required a special investigation team.
The only way 14 days of preparation makes sense is if you are preparing to shit-can a guy with a $39,000,000 contract and you want to make damn sure that you are not going to be liable for that when the smoke clears.
I agree with everything you state in this post.
But at this point opining and speculating is all that we can do as anxious fans. And with that I would like to take this opportunity to provide a bit more unsubstantiated minutia to the discourse.
It is a stretch for me to believe that Urban would harbor and protect a well known habitual wife beater on his staff. That's not even to say that I think Urban is some holier-than-thou altruistic saint.. It's just to say that is seems like far to much hazard and risk to keep somebody like that around.
I'm leaning more towards Urban probably thinking he was just a knuckle-head in a bad marriage. It seems far more plausible that Urban knew the Smith's were consistently having issues in their relationship and he was only privy to Zach's side of the story. I'm sure he was very annoyed, but with no arrests or charges he really wasn't in position to cut Zach Smith loose. (Nor do I believe it is even actually his job to hire or fire Zach Smith if he wants to)
Secondly is Urban's mea-culpa statement from last Friday. It seems a bridge too far for me to think that Urban, in a written statement, would be crazy enough to claim that he reported the 2015 incident, if in fact he did not. That's a text book suicide mission. Lying when you know you will be caught is beyond sociopathic and I just can't get there with Urban Meyer.
It seems far more reasonable that Urban was disingenuous with a reporter that caught him off guard in front of the cameras and he foolishly tried to bull-shit his way around it. The optics are far worse if you believe Urban did this to protect himself, but if he did know that he had in-fact followed protocol in 2015, he would have had no reason to feel he needs to protect himself. It's possible that he was trying to protect the University and/or Gene Smith, but that also would be unnecessary if he was truly under the impression that all parties followed protocol.
So why lie to the reporter? I don't know, but he did. Not his finest moment but it's very forgivable. It was a very direct question about a very sensitive topic that I'm sure he wasn't completely sure if any of the information he had about the 2015 incident was even factual or accurate. I'm sure Urban doesn't consider it to be his place in a press-conference to get into the details of some he-said, she-said domestic dispute between the family of a guy that just lost his job. Probably a mix of emotions in the moment and as he stated, he was likely not prepared to give a formal statement on the matter.
Either way, as I stated on the first day that this 'story' broke. This wreaks of being a text book witch-hunt perpetuated by a slimy journalist and the national media are willingly complicit. This is a take-down of one of the greatest American coaches in the history of organized sport and we as a society should be ashamed of ourselves.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it... at least for the next 14 days.
If we need proof that reality is in fact stranger than fiction...
There was an 11W article a month ago printed thats headline read, "Darkest Days: Predicting the worst possible scenario for Ohio State Football in 2018."
It mentioned none of this.
Bottom line is that if Meyer followed protocol in 2015, it will be very difficult to fire him with cause. I could be wrong but being dishonest with a reporter seems like it would be a stretch to fire a head coach independent of all other possible violations.
I don't like the two week time table. I dislike it as an Urban supporter if he is ultimately going to be our coach, because it is just two more weeks for mud slinging and character assassination. If he followed protocol, why not get that out there as soon as possible. If you are sitting on facts that prove that exonerate Urban, why not at least try to control the narrative a little bit? It seems like proving that Urban is innocent should take very little time, but proving his guilt and properly getting out from under his contract would take considerably more time. So I fear that it could be the latter.
It feels like this conversation has been elevated above football, but there are real world consequences for the team and the football program. If Urban is publicly tarred and feathered in the media for the next two weeks, half of the recruits in our pipeline decide to start looking elsewhere, and the team misses a few weeks of the season's most important practices with their coach, it could create an environment where it is very difficult for Urban to come back in and effectively do his job.
If Urban's superiors were aware of the 2015 innocent, it seems like that would be fairly easy to reach a conclusion and at least stop the bleeding.
100% battery... nice.
This was all necessary. It is Ohio State who is laying the traps, not this sleeze-ball hatchet-man reporter.
They needed us to hear the Zack Smith that Urban heard in the office so many times throughout the years. The tales of a troubled man in a toxic relationship that probably made some mistakes in his life. Never been convicted of a crime but you knew he liked the sauce and you worried about him personally.
They needed us to feel the way we felt when the other shoe dropped with this new text message, and we found out we have absolutely no idea wtf went on between these two lunatics. This is a mystery wrapped in a riddle.
the play is to protect Urban. Pass the ball and say Gene was notified. Urban was only hearing one side of this all these years, and that is Zack’s side... plausible deniability... Aside from that his superiors knew about it so Urban checks all the boxes to stay on board.
Gene Smith may not make it. It sounds like they all lit up chesterfields together last night in the rotunda and looked at poor Gene, and said “sorry Gene, you gotta go.”
Mataphorically or literally?