Tate's eligible for the same reason Fields is eligible, I suppose. Both players, at different times, came to the realization that they weren't going to start at OSU and UGA respectively, so both players sought greener pastures and better opportunities while the NCAA is playing nice and granting wishes. It dumbfounds me that people on here hate this kid so much that they want him to be ineligible at his new school... and to be clear, aside from ttun, I despise Miami like no other program in college football, and it isn't even close. Listen, when the legendary football coach who recruited Martell to OSU because the kid fit his offense like a glove talks Martell out of transferring one year prior, and when that legendary coach quits one year after talking Martell into staying, and when Martell sees that legendary coach, plus his new coach, and their prize transfer quarterback all sitting together at a basketball game like they're best buddies while Tate hasn't heard one word from any of them since 1/1/19, well, it's pretty clear what their plan is... which was validated in today's skull session.
“Tate felt it was in his and Ohio State’s best interests to transfer. Ohio State did not object to that or try to get him to change his mind.”
Wait, this can't be right, because just yesterday long time commenters on here were telling the rest of us exactly how Martell and Ryan Day met in Las Vegas after the Rose Bowl, how Martell demanded that he be named the starter, and how when Day instead offered Tate a chance to compete for the job Martell said no thanks and transferred. They called Martell an 'entitled douche' who clearly was 'afraid of competition.' Now we find out that there was no meeting in Vegas, that Day ignored Martell, and that he (Day) tacitly encouraged Martell to transfer.
Fill me in then, please. Aside from the one time comment made by a drunken asshole on the Georgia baseball team, what else is there to the Fields case? To be clear, I don't begrudge Fields immediate PT. Hell, I'm thrilled he was awarded eligibility for 2019... but he came here because Jake Fromm is UGA's starting quarterback and that isn't going to change. Martell transferred to a place that runs an offense better suited to his particular skill set because the coach who recruited him to OSU quit, and the offense for which Martell was tailor-made went out the door with the coach. Martell wants to play, just like Fields, and that's why they both transferred, imo... but if you know more about the Fields situation then do tell.
I'm a big Joey Bosa fan, and I now watch Chargers games with interest because of Bosa. Having said that, I agree with everything TCM posted here. Joey Bosa has become injury prone, it's just that simple, and being injury prone, no matter how elite the talent, is a red flag to GMs negotiating future contracts. If you can't stay on the field, then it doesn't matter if you run 4.49 forty, have the best technique in the league, and are as strong as an ox, because you spend far too much time on the bench. This has been Joey's career so far. Can that change? Absolutely, but until if and/or when it actually does change, he can demand more money than any non QB in the league all he wants, he's not going to get it.
I agree with this guy. Haskins is late with his throws at times, and he often times would under throw deep balls last season... but he's still the best quarterback in this draft, and Kyler Murray not playing baseball doesn't change that.
Isn't this the kid who Mike Farrell said was on early commitment watch for Ohio State, and Andrew Ellis (maybe) posted in the forum thread that he 'disagrees' with Farrell's opinion specific to Jarrett committing to OSU?
First round? Possibly, I don't know. If Campbell had the ability to track deep balls, combined with his speed, then I would agree that he's a first round lock, but he seems to have trouble with securing the football beyond short to midrange passes... and he had trouble securing even those balls prior to last season. His speed is elite... first round pick, crème de la crème speed. His hands, however, might not be. He improved quite a bit last season as a pass catcher, but he has a weak spot in catching the long ball... a weakness which might prevent him from going in round one. Either way, he'll make lots of money playing on Sundays, and good for him for putting himself in that position.
I don't think his opinion is out of line in the least. Urban Meyer quit, Day has proven next to nothing as a head coach, and Fields has proven even less as a quarterback. Having said all of that, I will be disappointed if the Buckeyes fail to win the East... and I won't be the only one. Ryan Day is on the clock, and so is Gene Smith, who handed the keys to a Ferrari to a first time driver.
Sources said they would explore a trade for Arizona's Josh Rosen
Holy cow, this dumbfounds me. Not that the Giants aren't planning to draft Haskins, but that they prefer Rosen to Haskins if they do something about the quarterback position. I like Haskins; good kid, had some great performances last season... and some bad performances (he's the least athletic quarterback I've seen in quite a while). Personally, I wouldn't take him in the top five because I'm pretty sure I could get him by trading down, saving myself millions in the process, and I don't believe he's shown enough to be a top five pick... there's 20-25 million dollars in guaranteed signing bonus money that goes along with being picked that high.
Having said all of that, I would take Haskins over Rosen on personality alone. Haskins was a winner at Ohio State, coming into The Game two years ago and winning what Barrett had been losing, and then going 13-1 last season with a conference title and a Rose Bowl win. In comparison, Rosen didn't carry UCLA to anything, he loves to run his mouth, and guys don't seem to want to follow him. Rosen has a lively arm and is a dick of a human being who won absolutely nothing in college or his rookie year in the NFL. Haskins is seemingly a nice kid, his teammates enjoy being around him, he carried his team to big achievements last season, and his arm is a unique blend of strength and accuracy. That's an easy choice, imo.
I'm on the 'I prefer Ohio players dominating at Oho State' side of the fence. There is something satisfying about players born in Ohio and battle-tested in the OHSAA coming to OSU and repeatedly beating the holy dog snot out of *ichigan. That's truly an us against them scenario, and I like it that way. Having said that, the OOS players are welcome and needed too... but not to the point that they outnumber the Ohio kids. All things being even close to equal, I'll take the Ohio player over the OOS player. That goes for the coaches too.
BP, those are my words coming out of your mouth. I could not care less if Wray commits to OSU or not. I'm not sure why, but he can come, not come... it matters not one bit to me. That's not bitterness over his decommitment, it's just the way it is.
I don't even know what "Associate Head Coach" means. Greg Schiano was the "Associate Head Coach, Defensive Coordinator, Safeties Coach" last season... and when Meyer was suspended Ryan Day was named interim head coach. By the way, Larry Johnson was "Assistant Head Coach, Defensive Line Coach" last year. It seems like these ambiguous titles are just to placate coaches and/or to allow for a bump in salary.
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Here's the bottom line, whether the schedule is tough, easy, or middling... Ryan Day has a team loaded with more talent than any opponent in the conference, at least based on previous recruiting rankings, so he has to get off to a fast start this season in order to make sure things don't slip. People around here love to compare Day's ascension to that of Lincoln Riley's, well, Riley took a less talented OU team to the playoffs in his first two seasons, so that should be the minimum standard for Ryan Day. I realize that Riley having Mayfield at QB in is first season was an advantage over Day having Fields or Baldwin, but Day's roster is more talented top to bottom than was Riley's. It's time to win for Ryan Day. Period.
I think you mean 'sinceitive,' don't you?
I get that Larry Johnson is thought to be the best d-line coach in America around here, and he very well might be, I don't honestly know, but he's also the highest paid in college football... by a decent margin, so I don't think he's underpaid. The following Football Scoop list was published about a month ago, before Johnson's 150k bump. The guy is a position coach, not even a coordinator, and he makes more money than fifty FBS head coaches. I'd say he's very well compensated.
1. Larry Johnson, Ohio State — $750,000
2. Rodney Garner, Auburn — $650,000
2. Joe Salave’a, Oregon — $650,000
4. Tracy Rocker, Tennessee — $505,000
5. Reese Morgan, Iowa — $500,000
5. Freddie Roach, Ole Miss — $500,000
5. Terry Price, Texas A&M — $500,000
8. Odell Haggins, Florida State — $482,000
9. Brick Haley, Missouri — $477,000
10. Mike Dawson, Nebraska — $475,000
10. Mark Snyder, Florida State — $475,000
Urban Meyer's bromance with JT Barrett cost Ohio State at least one title. Barrett's skills were best suited for an option team in 1977.
Urban Meyer's asinine handling of Zach Smith - from hiring Smith to begin with to allowing Smith's drunken bitch of a wife to take down the program - was a clown show. That he unfathomably put Smith above the program is just one more reason why Meyer is FAR below Woody Hayes in the pantheon of Ohio State football coaches.
Urban Meyer is phony. He's one of college football's most disliked coaches because he's one of college football's most insincere coaches. Wherever he goes, he seems to have one foot out the door from the day he arrives, and Ohio State was no exception. His last THREE "retirements," from Florida twice and then from OSU, were pathetic looks. He'll coach again, and he'll do it relatively soon, which will only serve to fortify the opinion that he's disingenuous.
Who is Quincy Avery? I know he's a 'QB trainer,' but how did he get to be that? I heard he hung out in Bob Toledo's office at UCLA for three days until they gave him 'job' volunteering with the quarterbacks, but aside from that lesson in sticktoitiveness, what other qualifications does he have? Clearly, Day has no issue with Fields, or Haskins before him, spending time with Avery, but what's his background? Did he play college football? Did he play quarterback? Did he play in the NFL... or even the CLF? Where did he come from?
What an idiot. Signs an NFL contract with 25 million guaranteed, somehow manages to file for bankruptcy some years later, Texas hands him a 100k bullshit job essentially doing nothing but being himself, Young turns that into a part-time job for 50k for which he never shows up and never contacts his superiors. What an idiot.
I believe Fields is a sophomore for the 2019 season, so he's got two more years in college, wherever that may be, until he's draft eligible. If Fields wins the job, he'll most likely keep it for two seasons, which would leave Baldwin, a redshirt freshman in 19, two years to start... unless Jack Miller beats him out.
The Michigan-Michigan State basketball rivalry is better, right now, than the Michigan-Ohio State football rivalry.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing about college basketball is better than football... let alone the most storied, tradition-laden rivalry in America's favorite (by far) sport. Is the ttun v MSU basketball rivalry more competitive right now in terms of equal numbers of wins and losses? Yes. Do sports fans pay attention even one-twentieth as much to ttun v MSU basketball as they do to OSU v ttun in football? Nope... and they never will.
I agree with much of what you say, BFIR, but I think it's clear that Meyer was prone to being loyal to a fault. JT Barrett should not have been the quarterback in 2017, and had Ryan Day been free to pick his guy, well, Barrett would not have him. Meyer loved Barrett, and because of that Haskins sat and watched when he should have been lighting up the conference. Ohio State missed the playoffs in 17 for two reasons... the Iowa debacle, and the offense being incapable of putting up the necessary points in games vs elite competition to warrant inclusion. Everyone saw 2016 vs Clemson, and in 17 Meyer stayed with the status quo offense and the QB who was clearly not a passer, and it cost his team a playoff spot.
Trace McSorley: a few hundred thousand dollars
Dwayne Haskins: Tens of millions of dollars in signing bonus alone
Haskins wins... again.
Zach Harrison looks like a basketball player. I'll be surprised if he plays more than the four game maximum allowed by the NCAA for freshmen who want to retain redshirt eligibility. He needs another 25lbs of muscle... he doesn't appear to be physically strong enough to provide an immediate impact.
If my son was a five star recruit, I would strongly encourage him to not consider his girlfriend in the equation. Noting is less relevant in a recruit's choice than a girlfriend. There will be a hundred more girls... do not allow the current one to influence this incredibly important, life-altering decision.