The prevailing belief is that it will be Bosa, Cooper, Jones and Young. Cornell is more of a bruiser at defensive end and less of a quick pass rusher.
I don't exactly know what point you're making, but of those eight players you mentioned, four weren't even starters during their fifth year (and two of those didn't even stay with the team the entire season), Braxton Miller doesn't fit the bill because the only reason he redshirted was due to injury, Bryce Haynes was a long snapper, and the other two were offensive linemen (which make sense to redshirt, as I mentioned in the article).
I think it could potentially help bigger schools as well because it's much easier to realistically tell an incoming freshman that he will definitely see the field and have a chance to show what he can do as a true freshman. It's taught to realistically tell a kid that when you have a roster as loaded as Ohio State. It's not just "You'll have a chance to earn playing time in practice," but "You'll have a shot during the first four games."
Perhaps it wasn't clear enough, but I think maybe you're misreading what I said.
The larger issue is the players who redshirt and are never quite good enough to crack the starting lineup.
I wasn't stating a general belief that players who redshirt their first year aren't good enough to play after that, because that's just incorrect and inconsistent, as you noted. I was referring to the specific players who redshirt their first year and then aren't good enough to crack the starting lineup in their remaining four.
That's an excellent way to look at it numerically. Thank you.
Yes I completely understand that, and I tried to address that point in the rest of the article:
"That's a problem, but it's not the largest problem caused by excessive redshirts because most of those players were buried on the roster anyway and it's not like the Buckeyes didn't have talent in front of them and desperately needed their contributions."
And then there are the project players who aren't ready to play immediately, but have incredibly high ceilings – players like Lee, or Tyvis Powell.
I get that rotating them in may not be possible, but the larger point is that those guys are either going to blossom like you hope they will and be gone in four years or less, or they aren't and you'll want their roster spot for a highly-touted recruit. Either way, you may as well play them, even if it's on special teams or something. Because that's at least some live game experience.
Oh, he’s said that exact quote many times throughout his coaching career to the point where I thought it was common knowledge, hence why I didn’t really address it aside from short title. He said it at Florida, and he’s said it here, quite a few times. The point of the article wasn’t that he said that, because that’s not new information. I was just pointing out that the new redshirt rules might test that mentality.
Obviously, that doesn't mean players won't redshirt, but what he's getting at is they don't intentionally do it, they just don't play the players that aren't good enough to play.
Here are a couple of quotes:
- "We don’t use that term around here because you don’t redshirt. If you’re not good enough, you don’t play. And we certainly don’t ‘save’ guys, but we don’t want to be ignorant either." (Bucknuts 2013)
- "We don't redshirt here at Ohio State. We're changing that up. We're going to have the culture out here that there's no redshirting. If you don't play here, it's because you're not good enough. It's not because we're holding you back. We're going to recruit the kind of player where we want them on the field right now. That's the approach we took at Florida, and it's the approach we're going to take here." (ESPN 2012)
Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for reading!
He should be, I was just writing about the state of the team heading into fall camp, and he will not be ready by then.
Nuernberger hit over 80 percent of his field goals last season and holds the Big Ten record for most consecutive extra point makes, and has a chance to break the FBS record this season.
Haha man, I am definitely taking after DJ today. Good catch.
Don’t know what happened there, but we’re good now.
My mistake on forgetting the word of the day. I just never put it in.