FSU had more close games, but the ACC was better back in 2014. GA Tech 11. Clemson 17, Louisville 21 all of which FSU beat. They also beat ND when they were 5 but that team fell apart, lots of injuries, and finished unranked. I think FSU 2014 had a much tougher path than 2019 Clemson.
OSU was the first team to do this since 1983 Auburn with Bo Jackson. If OSU wins the natty, I wonder if they will be the only team to win 5 in a row against top 10 AP teams (poll started in 1936).
FSU joined the SEC? This is not going to help them in football.
I would argue that Clemson hasn't played a defense like OSU's the last 2 years, and the only offense during that time was Bama's last year. OSU this year has faced Wisconsin twice with 21st points per game offense and 10th defense after playing 1st strength of schedule, PSU was 23rd offense, 7th defense, and 21st SOS, TTUN was 37th offense, 18th defense, and 2 SOS.
Florida State did the same thing in 2014. Hopefully Clemson will have a similar semifinal
It would be similar to having the Bengals play an all rookie team.
Good points. Also, if Wisconsin had played someone else and won during the regular season, rather than losing to OSU by 31, they would have 4th or 5th coming into the Big 10 CG.
HS talent rankings are not everything. Although Clemson is just ahead of PSU and TTUN in the 247 composite at 9, 10, and 11, Clemson is behind such powerhouses as FSU at 6 and USC at 4.
OSU strength of schedule 9th going into Saturday, LSU 29th. Clemson 80th. OSU and LSU similar offensive output, OSU has had better D all year. LSU had better conf cg, OSU finished with 3 top 10 games and a limping QB who missed some throws. Playing 3 tough games is tough, LSU had Auburn and Bama, then followed with giving up 37 to Ole Miss. Also, LSU at least had a bye between Auburn and Bama. OSU beating 3 top 10 (AP) teams is first time anyone has done it since 1983 (Bo Jackson and Auburn).
Well it would also depend on how he looks in practice. But if OSU is 1, decent chance they trash OK and he could get some live action plays when the game is not in doubt.
Lol, MD paying Jones? MD doesn't have any money. If they are going to come up with any cash to pay players, it will be Men's basketball.
If Fields is not affected with his brace, OSU may score a lot more in the first half than last time. If Wisconsin gets pretty far behind, that will end up hurting Taylor's stats the quicker they have to abandon the run.
Spock would have deemed the question illogical and cocked an eyebrow.
With the OP's question I was thinking over the life of Schiano's contract, which is supposedly 8 years. I was thinking IU looks good now but I doubt they stay up, only because any sustained success gets someone to offer the HC and/or assistants better jobs. OSU, TTUN, and PSU I assume generally stay above a Rutgers ceiling although one or more could slip up for awhile.
24 players when you count the honorable mentions. Pretty amazing. Not really surprised by Olave on third team, the way OSU spreads the ball is going to limit stats. I think the trashing of Taylor is getting silly, both he and JK are great backs. If they had switched teams this year, I don't see JK running wild on OSU with the shaky Wisconsin passing game or Taylor having a bad game playing with Fields,, OSU receivers, and OSU O-line against Wisconsin.
Funny thing is, I think over the last 8 years Fields is the only OSU QB who has started a game that has not yet won offensive national player of the week award. Here's to lighting up Wisky and getting it this week, then beating out Trevor Laurence for the heisman next year to with his 2 Natty's.
With a weak OOC, 8-4 or 9-3 if the Big 10 is similar to now. He would have to start getting a lot of the better NJ and NY recruits, and pull in some decent players from conference footprint and FL. Indiana went 8-4 and Rutgers has a better recruiting base.
That's pretty silly. But I'll try come up with 3% chance for Florida. If LSU crushes GA (LSU in), OSU beats WI (OSU in), Baylor or OK in, Virginia beats Clemson (ACC out), Oregon beats Utah (PAC out). Since Georgia beat Florida, somehow Florida will have to jump over them. A thorough beating by LSU might suffice, but it would help if Georgia had one or more key injuries that would convince the Committee they were no longer better than Florida. Like Fromm goes down first series (out for playoffs also), back up throws 5 INTs and they lose 56-0.
Just picked up the reissued Flying Circus on BD, great show.
Auburn was on probation in 1957, and UP was at least a wire service so I think that one is legit. 1970 and 1961 were pretty weak.
That was a hilarious listen. I agreed with almost everything he said. At the end he griped about hairball not bringing in an NFL QB, but based on HS rankings TTUN has gotten a lot of high potential QB's. This may be more a case of poor development of players than poor recruiting. I kinda wonder if Andrew Luck got more good advice from his dad than hairball.
LSU has had a tougher game (Bama on the road) than any of OSU's games, but OSU has a better strength of schedule overall. The offensive performance between OSU and LSU has been close, but the defense is clearly in OSU's favor. The strength of schedule argument is likely to improve for OSU based on the next two games, but this also affected by how previous opponents for OSU and LSU fair this week and in any conference championship games.
I was 6 back in 1969. I had watched the young Buckeyes roll the year before, which was the first I actually paid attention to football. I figured they were young and don't lose, so I should never lose since I was young. Plus their QB had a cool name and was destined to be a great Private Detective after football. That game in 69 scarred my young soul, and it still hurts. Every OSU win since that game is a small lifetime of revenge tours. Fuck &ichigan.
THANK YOU for posting. That was an excellent discussion. Hopefully Urban will have a long and happy post coaching career as an announcer (he is excellent at that role) and in administration helping OSU students and coaches. Woody did fine teaching post coaching.
In response to your last sentence, Hairball is annoying, but his record at San Diego, Stanford, and 49ers is good. Considering how TTUN has been before he got there, he has done pretty well, just not well enough to justify his salary or the incoming hype. I don't think building Stanford into the national conversation but not winning the PAC should be held against him. I'm not sure you could make too much of not winning the division with Meyer at OSU, and Meyer has been the second most successful coach since 1982 with 3 consensus national championships and 2 other undefeated seasons.