That changed last year, as it should have. If the penalty is only targeting, then the 15 yards gets picked up as well. But if the call is "Roughing the Passer, and Targeting, or late hit and targeting" then only the targeting gets reviewed, and the 15 yards stands.
That was absolutely not targeting. Yes, it sucks when bad calls have hurt us before, but that was just bad. The guy was going low, and then Haskins went low. I'm just glad the refs used judgement when they made the call.
On part 2, I think Pryor is playing out of position. I think he is more suited for Fuller's spot. To me, the bad angles aren't an indictment on coaching. If I had a guess right now, Shaun Wade will be in that position before the year is over.
In the first two games he ran a handful of 5 yard out routes. I saw it once on Saturday. Those are the ways, along with screens to get him the ball, and then maybe throw in a few double moves to try to take the top off once or twice.
Mack has been the most surehanded receiver. You don't change anything or punish anyone for a one time thing. If it is over and over, a la, Campbell, then you change how you use them. Benching him would have been a terrible decision last week, and they didn't. Mistakes happen. Changing anything because of one bad game will hurt his confidence. If you are thinking "OMG I'm gonna get benched if I drop this ball", then you shouldn't be out there. Keep targeting him, because without a doubt he is the best route runner since Michael Thomas.
I think it took the right players to let him get out from behind the wheel. Neither Day nor Wilson ran offenses with a run first QB. Urban has, meaning Urban was probably the rightful guy to lead the ship last year. Haskins is more up Day's, and especially Wilson's alley.
Although, tbh, if you look at the plays ran from last year, there hasn't been a difference. Haskins size makes the underneath routes more open, and then can hit the out-routes. I'd say the change we are seeing has more to do with the execution of the plays, more so than the calling of the plays.
Not as much as Day and Schiano. Remember Day was promoted (before the ultimate promotion) to main play-caller. Wilson has a big role, but you'll probably hear less of him. Essentially traded spots with Day from last year.
I love this. I don't think this is "Urban is washed and his offense sucks". That is not it at all. Urban has an offense he is comfortable running, and Day/Wilson have an offense they are comfortable running. And they players dictate which way we will go. Last year required more of an Urban attack. This year more of Day/Wilson. Urban's won with dual-threats, Wilson has won with the air raid, and Day showed he can do it in the NFL. Talk about a 3 headed monster.
I don't care about running it 90% of the time of first down. We have Dobbins and Weber. Sure it got stopped for 2 and a half quarters, but eventually TCU was drained when it mattered most. Haskins is amazing but so are Dobbins and Weber.
I'm more impressed and happy with the 2nd and 6, and 3rd and 4 type calls. Quick out-routes and slant routes were non-existent in recent years.
I was a Barrett supporter to the death while he was here. But he is gone and this offense is so much more fun to watch. There were some drives that stalled last night that JT may have kept alive. That was what he was so good at. But at the end of the day, the threat of the pass is so valuable. Haskins threw 1 bad ball all night and that was the ball to Victor. The 3rd and 16 conversion and the KJ TD were perfect.
Gary Patterson said it on Wingo and Mike before the game. “Haskins added a whole new element.”
Time will tell on the significance. Remember the 2014 MSU game? JT torched MSU but now people look back and say “yeah well at the time MSU was thought to be good, but then Bryce Petty lit them up too”. 4 data points is not a lot. But you don’t need many data points to see the ball placement. I have not seen a single crossing route thrown even an inch behind the receiver.
A la last night. Absolutely perfect call for the deal if TD.
Good comparison. I made the comment that it reminded me of the 2015 Oregon game. Made tons of mistakes that let Oregon hang around but talent ended up winning the day. Same thing with TCU.
The scary thing is that TCU is one of the best pass defenses we are going to see this year.
I along with several others greatly misjudged their D-line and QB. I thought our O-line would be getting us 6 yards a pop all night. We eventually wore them out but it wasn’t easy.
Some of the passes that QB threw were great.
At the end of the day, Gary Patterson made a case for coach of the year based just off the first half last night. OSU adjusted. But they were doing every single thing to use our strengths against us.
I have a feeling he’s gonna be offered upwards of 5, but not from OSU. I’d love to see OSU open the checkbook as a coach in waiting. Although the last “coach in waiting” I remember, was Muschamp at Texas.... Yikes
This team has a direction on offense. The issue with 2015 seemed to be no one on the staff had any clue on what to do without a runner. Also Cardale was not nearly as polished as Haskins. The man who still can’t be overlooked is Wilson. Dude lit it up at OU with the air raid. This staff seems much more prepared for this offensive style.
I believe Urban will give them more leash. Honestly last year, Day and Wilson probably couldn’t do what they wanted do to certain limitations.
If he’s not offered 1.5 mil it’s a shame.
Probably won’t. But you’d have to wonder if any thought at all would be put into keeping him on the sidelines. He wouldn’t be the only OC to be on the sidelines (remember Kiffin). He just seems to click so well with his guys on offense. Love his demeanor.
(Don’t remember Warriner)
This game reminded me of the 2015 Title game, albeit a slightly closer result. Team made loads of mistakes but the talent was just too much to overcome. 2nd half adjustments were on point as well.
This was a perfect example of gassing a Dline. They made us work for every yard early. But by the 4th, they were gassed. Luxury of having running backs that only play half the game.
Most fun offense I’ve watched in awhile.
Haskins arm also makes the 1st read open more. JT had limitations and he understood those and made smart decisions and didn’t force the ball to his 1st target. Haskins has the arm strength (Mack catch over the middle) to make throws into tighter windows. He sees a sliver of an opening and he knows he can fit it in there.
Well considering OSU has ran the same coverage on 1st and 2nd downs since 2014, I’m not sure it’s a schematic thing. They run the most “basic defense” in scheme. Most difficult in execution. Quarters defense is great because you can run it against any look and never have to change. You run the same defense against Michigan that you’d run against Oregon. But in order to be successful you have to have disciplined LB’s. Having a guy like Raekwon and Grant lead the middle is key. They didn’t make the big plays that Shazier made. But they were solid and were always in the right holes.
Browning is young, sonits expected, but he has been out of his assigned gap at least 5 times this season and that’s just on TV when they point it out.
McLaurin has surprised me so much. Before the season I predicted he would be the odd man out. Although you have to give credit for Victor making that downfield block to spring Weber for a touchdown. It’s rare to see a receiver fully invested in blocking when they aren’t getting targets.
That score does make sense. I can see our LB’s making a few mistakes that allow Robinson to break a few big runs.
I agree with you honestly. And I’m not taking too much stock from the last two games. I thought that before this season even started. There is a huge talent gap. Also seen a few different analysts say TCU is only ranked based on last year and that they don’t belong in the top 25 right now.
Especially without their best defensive player
Ohio State is going to have an advantage at every position on the field. But Patterson can coach and loves showing weird blitzes. The only way I see them making OSU sweat is if Haskins has issues reading their defense. OSU has a huge advantage on both sides of the LOS.
They will put stress on our LB’s due to the mobility of their QB, but he has looked far from accurate when forced to pass.
2015 MSU. Enough said. All rain damned to hell. It is burned into my everlasting memory.
Tickets already in the $50ish range. Could definitely see some C-deck tickets selling for $35-40 if the rain is coming. But if the rain doesn't come until that night, it could be a very very enjoyable day to be at the Shoe.