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    Attending multiple Yankees World Series games from 1996 on.
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Comment 06 Dec 2019

always thought this was a cool award. First of all, the award predates the Heisman and Red Grange was its first winner in 1924. Notable non-OSU winners include Otto Graham, Nile kinnick,  Tom Harmon, future Michigan coach Bump Elliott, Dick Butkus, Bob Griese, UM's current coach.  Notable non-winners include Bronko Nagurski, Bubba Smith, Rod Woodson, Alex Karras and a bunch of Buckeyes.  Wes Fesler was the first Buckeye winner in 1930.  Jay Berwanger, first Heisman winner, also won the Silver Football in 1935.  The Bucks won it a couple of times in the 40s with Jack Graff, Les Horvath and Ollie Kline (Horvath and Kline going back to back in '44/'45). OSU Heisman winners Janowicz and Cassidy won it in the '50s, but then there were no OSU winners until 1973.  That is what I found interesting -- those great OSU teams from the '60s were shut out (Bob Ferguson,  Jack Tatum, Rex Kern, Jim Otis).  Ferguson was the heisman runner up and won the Maxwell award but lost the silver football to Minnesota's QB. Those great early '70s teams featured three winners in a row (Archie, Archie and Corny Greene).  Schichter and Byars were the lone Earle Bruce players to win during the '80s. Cooper's great '90s teams are represented by Eddie George, Orlando Pace (back-to-Back) and Joe Germain to make it 3 out of 4 years from 1995 to 1998.  Tressel's teams were shut out of this award until 2006 with Troy Smith, who was his lone winner.   The avalanche started with Urban and hasn't stopped (Braxton back-to-back 2012/13; Zeke followed by JT twice (one a share with Saquon) finishing up with Haskins, who is now followed by Chase Young.

Lots of great Big Ten History!

Comment 05 Dec 2019

"Not so terrible" - sure, i'll buy that. UC's success in particular has been helpful, given they are ranked.   But this isn't like scheduling Cal when they were good and then they fall apart by the time the game is played.  The schedule will be better in the future for sure. This year was a weak slate.

Comment 04 Dec 2019

Looking back, it’s unbelievable how much talent those Buckeye teams had. We should have had at least one NC under Coop. So frustrating. There was just something missing from the Cooper regime; some extra oomph he couldn’t find.

The clip was great. And it was good to see Korey Stringer on the sidelines again...

Definitely.- had Robert Smith and Eddie George on the same team (though Eddie had those fumble problems early on). Galloway was on that team too.  How about a couple of years later with Orlando Pace and Stringer on the same line?  Terry Glenn, Galloway and Dudley. Then 1995 with the Heisman, Belitinkoff and Lombardi winners  - but dumped its last two games.

Same thoughts about Earle Bruce -- great buckeye and winning record against our rival, but always underachieved except for his first year with Woody's team.  How about 1984?  Spielman, Pepper Johnson and Kumerow (bosa's uncle) at LBs, Keith Byars as Heisman runner up.  Cris Carter (best WR i've ever seen). Jim Lachey, Kirk Lowdermilk on the OL (i think most, if not all, of  the line was drafted).  Tom Tupa, Mike Tomszack .    NFL talent everywhere.  Big ten champs, Rose Bowl appearance, win over our rival, but a  three loss season including a bowl loss.  Pretty typical Earle Bruce season

Earle was good for 3 losses a year -- can you imagine that today?

By the way, who led the team in receptions that year?  Not Cris Carter -- it was Byars (by 1)!  Cris had way more yards and receiving TDs. But that is how good Byars was -- Heisman Runner Up but he was robbed.  Dominant season - definitely one of the best ive ever seen

Keith Byars 1984

  1796 yards rushing  with 22 rushing tds.  42 receptions for 479 yards and 2 tds.  198 yards in KO returns at 25 yards a return.  1 for 1 passes for 35 yards and a TD.  Returning kicks at 240 lbs!

Comment 04 Dec 2019

This is awesome (probably posted before)

"A hammer and a nail don't have a rivalry  -- they have a relationship"

"Michigan fans are delusional"

Comment 04 Dec 2019

Two comments:

1. 1950 alternate uniforms - yes please!

2. 1992 uniforms - look at those gray stripes on the sleeve. Bring those back full time!

Also, as always, great work Ramzy!

Comment 25 Nov 2019

1974 - Bucks spot them a 10-0 lead. I was at this game, so it always has a place in my heart (first UM game i attended).  Second year in a row that the UM kicker missed a GW FG.  The announcers are great here (UM announcers) -- you can feel their pain! Bucks win 12-10 to go to the Rose Bowl  . ..  again!

Comment 10 Oct 2019

Did fans like me critique them into submission? 

Yes, Nike and the University listened to you. They ignored the fact that the players and recruits love them. 

Comment 01 Oct 2019


I hope Day will open things up a bit against MSU as opposed to our usual conservative approach. Reading the MSU boards, it seems as though their fans are more worried about their secondary than anything else and their pass D against Indiana bears that out. Will be a good test for our aerial attack.
 

Still not enough data to really know how Day plays it, but I tend to think that going conservative isn't in his DNA. My bet is that he keeps it wide open and doesn't take his foot off the gas. 

Comment 30 Sep 2019

I love reading these Mgoblog threads -- this is one of the best quotes in the great Harbaugh debate: (last sentence)

MoCarrBo

September 28th, 2019 at 11:21 PM ^

Lol i dont need to be 50 years old like you to know who Ron Dayne is. I dont need to be 50 years old to know PSU was a top 5 program when they joined the Big Ten.That Carr would regularly schedule top 15 programs to start the year whilst still play ND every year. 

You sir have no heart. You are comfortable and make excuses for mediocrity.

Meanwhile Harbaugh is wiping his ass with 9 million dollars worth of excuses. 

Comment 01 Aug 2019

Moved to Columbus in August 1970. I was 6 years old. We had moved from Buffalo and i had a vague memory of seeing the Bills play in the snow, but i knew nothing about college football. All of my second grade classmates and the teachers were still talking about the 1969 Michigan game, so i quickly got up to speed.  My dad worked at OSU so i had access to tickets and starting in '72, attended most home games, including my years in the 80s attending OSU.  I've never followed any other college team!

Comment 01 Aug 2019

October 3, 1971

35-3 win over Cal

Dont remember a whole lot, but i was excited (i was in Second Grade)

'71 was a rebuild year between the Rex Kern teams and the Archie years. Team included Randy Gradishar , John Hicks, Stan White.  Future coaches Glen Mason and Fred Pagac played on that team and Earle Bruce was on Woody's staff.

First game i remember watching on TV was a 1970 win against Duke.  After the '71 season, i attended most home games for the next 15 years!

Comment 10 Mar 2019

You can throw the '73 team in there as well.  a 10-10 tie against UM was the only blemish and the Bucks destroyed USC in the Rose Bowl. In the Archie years, '74 and '75 hurt, but '73 was probably the best of those teams.  Offense was potent and the D is one of the best in OSU history.  Gave up 64 points in 11 games, with 4 shutouts. Only team to exceed 13 points against the Bucks that year was USC, who put up 21 in the aforementioned 42-21 Rose Bowl loss.  The tie against Michigan has been well documented due to the choice to pick OSU for the rose bowl.  OSU had a 10-0 lead at the half and got shut down in the second half, dodging a missed FG as time expired (same kicker would do it again the following year - Lantry, who was an all America player in '73).  I remember reading a book about that season when I was a kid and some of the players said that Woody didn't trust freshman  so he didn't give the ball much to Pete Johnson in the second half (Pete had scored in the first half and was a wrecking ball).  I know the OP was talking about final game losses, but this was another lost title team for sure.   One of Woody's best. 

Also, someone else mentioned '79, which was a close rose bowl loss away from a title (though that team seemed to be playing above its weight class at times)

Comment 30 Nov 2018

Very surprising that no Buckeye won between 55 and 73, especially with the 1968-70 run. Perhaps those great teams were just too balanced and split the vote?

Interesting point -- also the early 60s run with Bob Ferguson, Paul Warfield et al.  Ferguson was runner-up to the Heisman in '61 and won the maxwell award. Silver Football went to Sandy Stephens from Minnesota, who was fourth in Heisman balloting that year.  Minnesota went to the Rose Bowl and Stephens was the QB for that team, but it should be noted that 1961 is the year where OSU famously (infamously) voted to turn down the rose bowl.  OSU was 8-0-1 that year and won the FWAA National Championship (put 50 up on UM that year).

'68, '69 and '70 Silver Football Award went to Ron Johnson (UM), Mike Phipps (Purdue) and Mike Adamle (NW), respectively.

Ron Johnson was a senior in '68 (as opposed to OSU's super sophs) and had a pretty dominant year, including setting the NCAA individual game rushing record.  Mike Phipps was runner-up for the Heisman in '69.  Mike Adamle was an all-american and seemed to have a pretty solid year (leading rusher in Big Ten; NW was runner up with UM to OSU).  In 1970, Stillwagon won the Outland Award; Tatum was all american. Rex Kern was 5th in heisman. Brockington led BIg Ten in scoring and was the first Big Ten player drafted. Perhaps the Buckeyes split the vote as you said.

Comment 30 Nov 2018

Winners by School:

  • OSU  20
  • UM   17
  • Iowa  10
  • Wisc  9
  • Ill  7
  • IU  7
  • Minn  6
  • Purdue  6
  • NW 5
  • PSU  5
  • MSU 3
  • Chicago 2
  • MD, Neb, Rutgers - 0

Surprised MSU only has 3

Buckeyes:

  1. Haskins '18
  2. JT (shared with Barkely) '16
  3. Zeke '15
  4. Braxton '13
  5. Braxton '12
  6. Troy Smith '06
  7. Joe Germaine '98
  8. Orlando Pace '96
  9. Eddie George '95
  10. Keith Byars '84
  11. Art Schlichter '81
  12. Corny Greene '75
  13. Archie '74
  14. Archie '73
  15. Howard Hopalong Cassidy '55
  16. Vic Janowicz '50
  17. Ollie Cline '45
  18. Les Horvath '44
  19. Jack Graf '41
  20. Wes Fesler '30