Last year’s defense was a product of the coaches not putting the players in a position to succeed. Schiano failed to adjust to the players that he had on defense and insisted on playing man coverage all of the time out of mostly the same alignment. As for Grinch, his defenses at WSU always got gouged when they played an offense with a pulse. The same thing is occurring at Oklahoma. Last year’s defensive coaches were fired save Larry Johnson because Day knew that they could not produce an elite defense. It was coaching last year as the defense with the same players has gone from 75th nationally in most categories to 1st or 2nd.
Rankings at this point in the season are not really that meaningful. The AP and Coaches Polls provide some interesting chatter and a way to gauge who the top 4 teams might be in the first CFP Poll, but they are not as useful as they were during the BCS era. As Buckeye fans, we want to see OSU in the CFP and if the semi-final games were occurring next weekend, then they would be in. OSU has 5 games left before the final CFP rankings come out and PSU, TTUN, and whoever the BIG game opponent is will not be easy matchups. I think that OSU winning each game by 40 points and playing the best complementary football makes them the #1 team in the country right now, but it is not like the teams in front of them are only winning games by a couple of points. Alabama is blowing people out, Clemson is starting to come around after a slow start, and LSU is undefeated against a good schedule. The final CFP rankings will be much different 5 weeks from now anyway. I just want OSU to be one of the 4 contenders.
I agree. Our starters are only playing about a half of football because they are beating teams so badly. People can talk about strength of schedule all they want, but you have to beat the teams in front of you. We are beating teams by 35 plus points and the best part is that the coaches and players recognize that there is still room to improve.
I do not know about the inter-dynamics of their locker room, so I am not sure if it is a culture issue or anything like that. Given the clips provided, it looks like the defensive lineman for TTUN are out of position before the ball is snapped and as a result never get their feet in the right position to get off blocks and into the backfield. Clip one shows the linebacker #29 leave about 2 yards of space between himself and #2, which enables the left guard for Wisconsin to easily block the linebacker at the angle as soon as he stands up, which creates the path for Coan to get into the endzone. Right now TTUN is a team that cannot block on offense or tackle on defense. If you cannot do these two things in football at a high level then losing games becomes a regularity.
It would be ideal to get 2 QBs in this class. The depth chart is Fields, Chugonov, Hoak, Andrade (walk on), Vanatsky (walk on) and that is not a lot of depth. This is Chugonov's last year and Hoak only has one more year of eligibility after this one. If another QB outside of Miller is not added then we have a future depth chart of Miller and McCord since Hoak graduates next year and Fields could turn pro. Stroud gives the coaches another versatile QB who can run and throw, which is needed for the good of the position. Miller has been injured, but he has the tools and talent to be an All-American QB for OSU and hopefully he stays in this class.
Do you see Miller and Stroud in the class? I know Miller has been injured, but I think he could be an All American in Day’s system.
I agree with this. The commentators on College Gameday say a lot without really saying much of substance. I would like to see a guest college coach on that show who does not have a stake in any of the big games of the day who can give a X's and O's break down of the key matchups and get on the white board and show what schemes of offense and defense each team will try to employ. The coach could even give a break down of how to stop those schemes of defense and how the offense would adjust.
When you win 2 out of the last 3 national championships, send guys to the NFL, and maintain a cohesive coaching staff that is on the same page recruiting takes care of itself. Clemson also has excellent facilities and academics that are good enough as well. I know many fans don’t like Dabo Swinney, but I think it’s only due to the fact that Clemson boat raced OSU two years in a row.
When comparing the film, I do think EJ Smith is the more talented player and with his dad being one of if not the top NFL RBs of all time, it is difficult to pass on blood lines like that. However, the staff cannot get caught in a place again where they go all in on Bradford and Smith only to have them decide that they want to go somewhere else. In Drennen's film, he does a good job running routes, catching the ball in traffic, and running the ball. He does not have breakaway speed though and that is where EJ Smith would have the edge. I do think that for an APB the staff is looking for a player who can run the ball between the tackles 4-6 times a game, catch some screen passes, wheel routes, and the occasional jet sweep. Think about it this way, Bradford has the ability to pick up yards between the tackles and all of the sudden, Drennen or Smith come in the game and catch a wheel route or tunnel screen for 20 yards. I think that both can do that.
Hopefully Nevada is right in his assessment. However, this could be a very difficult pull for Day and Alford, particularly when Bijan would have to go against the wishes of his emotional and financial support system (grandparents). The staff should keep trying to get Bijan back in the fold and even try talking to the grandparents more about the family atmosphere at OSU, excellent academic opportunities, the Real Life Wednesdays program. Alford and Day should also emphasize the realities of big time college football and say that even if Bijan goes to Texas his ability to go home frequently will be limited due to the time commitments to academics and athletics. However, they can emphasize that he can facetime them, call, text, write letters to keep that family connection. I am sure they are already doing this. OSU needs to address their concerns and then ultimately make those concerns not matter as much.
Agreed. We tend to underestimate as fans how much depth there is at a given position sometimes. The goal should always be to take at least 1 quality RB in each class, but OSU should not just take a RB to take a RB. They currently have Dobbins, Teague, Crowley, Chambers, and Gill to carry the load this year. Out of this group Dobbins, Teague, Crowley, and potentially Chambers have the ability to be 3 down backs. I understand from a depth perspective the desire to take two because of Dobbins going pro early and Gill and McCall not being between the tackles runners, but if the wrong two are taken then that could actually hurt depth more. I know the big targets for 2021 are Donovan Edwards and Evan Pryor, but the staff needs to keep those lines of communication open with Corey Kiner and Jaylen Anderson.
An effective ground game is still important in Day’s offense. Meyer’s offense relied heavily on the zone read, speed option, and inside power to get rushing yards from the QB or RB. Those concepts will still be there with Fields at QB because of his running ability, but Day gets RBs involved differently. The PSU game last year is a good example of this. Dobbins was having trouble running between the tackles, but did some damage on wheel routes, swing passes, and screens. Days’s system is such that you can recruit a RB who does the fundamentals well and before you know it the opposing team is asking themselves how Dobbins has 200 all purpose yards.
This goes both ways though. We know through the recruiting analysts that EJ Smith and Tony Alford have kept open lines of communication, but we do not know what Smith's level of interest was/is. I can't blame Coach Alford or Day for going full steam ahead on Robinson and Knighton if they both had verbally pledged to the staff. They could not promise EJ a spot that did not exist. However, I did say that in an earlier thread the best move from a recruiting perspective would have been to keep lines of communication open for as many OSU caliber backs as possible and take the first 2 who wanted to commit and fit the program, culture, and offense the best. Hopefully EJ gets that sense from the staff and is not worried about the pecking order.
Good assessment. You want a RB who can find the gaps in the offensive line, run through those gaps, gain 5-6 yards per carry and force the defense to put more defenders in the box. This in turn opens up the passing game and gives receivers the opportunity to catch the ball, which then opens up the running lanes because defenses don’t want to get beat deep.
Just looked up Taggart’s career record and I do not see the appeal for high level recruits. He is 52-57 with his best season being 10-2 at USF for a share of the AAC East Division title. He accomplished nothing at Oregon and FSU looked like a poorly coached middle school team last year. I understand wanting to stay close to home, but this is not the 1990s FSU.
You are probably right, but from all the reports we have heard the coaches were completely caught off guard and were not expecting Knighton and Robinson to lose any and all interest in committing to OSU. Alford and Day now have to circle the wagons and see what other running backs may be interested in committing by starting from scratch. Realistically, outside of EJ Smith who are the some other running back targets? Tank Bigsby seems bound for an SEC School, Keyvone Lee seems bound for Penn State or a Florida school, Zach Evans is the ultimate long shot, and all of the other top backs are already committed. Maybe one can be flipped, but that is always much more challenging to do.
I agree with this. The lesson moving forward for Tony Alford and Ryan Day is to recruit 10 OSU caliber running backs per recruiting cycle (if there are 10) and accept commitments from the ones that the need. I realize the Knighton and Robinson supposedly committed to OSU, but it is rarely a good idea to go all in on a limited number of prospects and then not have it work out. EJ Smith would be an excellent addition to this class and Torrance Davis could be a great 3-down back for OSU down the road. Davis's tape shows someone who is a willing runner, can catch the ball, has some blocking ability, and enough speed to outrun defenders. He would not get playing time right away, but could be a valuable contributor as a sophomore or junior.
McFarland and Moore would have been impact players at OSU, but we need to put some things in perspective. McFarland was in the same recruiting class (2017) as J.K. Dobbins and I cannot blame the staff for picking Dobbins over McFarland. Remember, Dobbins was a 1400 yard plus back as a Freshman and ran for over 1000 yards last year as well. Moore would have been a great slot receiver for OSU, but he clearly wanted to go to Purdue and I cannot blame him given that Jeff Brohm has a very creative passing game that utilized his skill set well. Also, Moore would not have received playing time last year over guys like Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin, Johnnie Dixon, Victor, or anyone else.
I just re-watched the highlight film for QB Jack Miller and he has an opportunity to be a multi-year starter at OSU. My overall perception of his Junior year Hudl highlight film is that he has good pocket awareness, makes the right pass most of the time, and plays for an offensive coordinator that knows what he is doing. First, Miller seems to know when the pocket is breaking down around him, but keeps his eyes downfield and looks to pass first, while being able to scramble for 5-10 yards if no one is open or he cannot get the receiver the ball. Second, he seems to scan the field well and complete his passes most of the time, but he does seem to fall in love with the deep ball when the receiver running the quick slant or the drag route may have been the more efficient pass. Sometimes he locks onto a receiver early and does not see others receivers who may be open downfield, but most high school QBs have that learning curve.
The one area where Jack need's to improve as far as mechanics is his release. Ideally, you want to see a QB pass the ball when it gets lined up with his ear, but he seems to release the ball when it is past his shoulder or behind his head. Finally, he plays in an offense where the coordinator takes some time to develop route combinations, blocking schemes, and spacing. This is important because you can see that Miller understands how to read different levels of routes, the defense and knows where to go with the ball.
It makes sense that the Rivals Analysts would have the top scoop because they were the ones throwing the event. I also do not think that the 247 Analysts really know that much more than any other recruiting analysts. I stopped paying for Bucknuts a few years ago because the quality of their information seemed to be all over the place and I could come to Eleven Warriors and read more honest insight from guys like Birm would seemed to really understand what the recruits were thinking. Anyone know the last time that Bucknuts had a scoop on anything?
I would like to see some creativity with the running backs this year. JK Dobbins and Master Teague are both talented enough to employ some two back sets, especially in the red zone where the passing windows tend to be smaller and tighter. For example, why not have a split back set where Fields fakes the handoff to Dobbins and then pitches it to Teague who runs a counter. Teague could also be used as a full back at the goal line in the I formation for Dobbins after he gets a handoff. These are just some examples of plays that could be used.
This gif will never get old! This kid went from sheer happiness at the thought of his cousin picking OSU to sheer disappointment and I think the fan base felt the same way.
Do we have any type of proof of the type of relationship builder that Ryan Day is? Coach Day went from being a cog in the machine to being in charge of the entire football program. He had to hire a staff, work with Mark Pantoni to establish a recruiting strategy, and establish his vision for the program. I would like to see more 4 and 5 star recruits come on board, but many are going to wait and see if Coach Day and his staff can develop talent and win. Saban and Dabo have already shown that they can win championships.
I understand your point, but Coach Day cannot stop looking for the best QB prospects available simply to alleviate the feelings of the QBs currently in the program. Justin Fields is the type of talent that can pass for 300 yards and run for 100 yards in a game and Coach Day would have been foolish to pass on a QB with that type of potential if adequately developed on the field. Ideally, OSU continues to recruit blue chip QBs coming out of high school who can be starters with the ability to win the Heisman, BIG Title, and National Championship. Coach Day has expressed the desire to have 4 QBs on the roster at any given time and getting a QB through the transfer portal who can provide adequate depth and leadership in the locker room is important. If Justin Fields gets injured then Chris Chugonov is the starter and Danny Vanatsky is the backup. That would not be a good place for Ohio State to be.
I think everyone needs to recognize the realities of recruiting for OSU right now. This is Ryan Day’s first head coaching job and there are 5 new coaches on staff. It is going to take time for 4 and 5 star recruits to buy in to a new staff, schemes, and program run by Ryan Day. I think this staff gets things going in October after some initial on field successes.