I grew up in the Detroit area but I had family ties to Columbus and OSU so I became a Buckeyes fan. Besides, living in "TSUN" I experienced firsthand the arrogance and smugness of the Wolverines. Like Crimson I also became a Lions fan which is a trying experience but there are occasional moments of joy such as the few times they outdo the team in Ann Arbor. On Thanksgiving weekend for example the Lions won 4 games this decade while mighty Mee-chee-gan only won The Game once. Even last year the Lions lost put put up much more of a fight than Mee-chee-gan.
I'm all for the USWNT team, understand that the system gives them an incentive to run up the score and that you can't tell the players to stop playing. But the celebrations were overdone. I'd rather the players went by the Paul Brown/Jim Brown attitude, "act like you've been there before". Unfortunately that today is considered an "obsolete virtue".
But let's consider this. None of us here like the Desmond Howard Heisman pose. I do not believe that any team representing America should put themselves in a position to be compared to Desmond Howard.
Yes as others have said, US men's soccer just didn't attract the best athletes and was behind baseball, basketball, football and even hockey. In that 1950-1990 period no one grew up dreaming of gaining fame and fortune through the World Cup (but it evidently didn't matter in women's soccer where female athletes are used to getting much less attention than men).
But there's always hope. The under 20 team made a good run in its tournament. Maybe there will finally be a change for the better.
Thanks for reminding me of that. It was another very exciting sports moment and I listened to it live on a Canadian radio station.
I'll go with Miracle on Ice and I saw it live on television, Canadian television. I lived in the state up north and one advantage there is you can get Canadian television. Their network showed it live while ABC had it on tape delay, a sorry commentary on ABC.
The Miracle team was not quite pure "amateurism" as they were allowed minor leaguers (like game winning goal scorer Mike Eruzione) and the college players included some future NHL players. But it was still an amazing achievement for this unlikely group to put it all together against the odds. I'll add this was in the pre-cable days when the reception of the Canadian station wasn't very good and it added to the atmosphere to watch this historic game as it faded in and out and in.
Harbaugh had his failures as a player too. The week before this game Harbaugh lost at home to Minnesota in a rare revival of the "Little Brown Jug" rivalry as Minnesota has won only 4 of these games in the last 50 years and Harbaugh was one of the losing quarterbacks. Let's also not forget the 1987 Rose Bowl when John Cooper's ASU Sun Devils beat TTUN. As we know Cooper won only 3 games against TTUN and Harbaugh was one of the losers.
We'll now see if McGuff can make OSU a national contender or if he's in the John Cooper/Jim Foster mold of "He wins but he can't win the big one. Sometimes it takes a coach years before he finally wins the big one but for some coaches it never happens.
John Cooper, Jon Cooper. Anybody notice this? Slightly different spellings but the name now has the connotation of a coach who wins a lot of games but is cursed by the reputations, "He can't win the Big One".
I'm not ready to say "fire" but there are reasons for concern. Like Foster the McGuff postseason record is so-so, 6-4 and when he had the all-time scorer. Unlike Chris Holtmann, Kevin McGuff is not struggling with his predecessor's recruits. These players are all his. He also routinely overschedules his team with games they can't win, part of the reason as I noted earlier 14-14 was as much as could be expected. Such scheduling doesn't build a team up, it breaks it down.
Hopefully next year will be much better with the heralded new recruits. But it would be nice to see the team do better than the sweet 16. As I said I'm not ready to say "fire" but after 6 years fans would like to see results not excuses.
14-14 wasn't bad under the circumstances which included an overly tough pre-conference schedule. Hopefully the team can win some games and build momentum towards next year.
I wonder if this will be the year of The 8 Year Itch. The Team Up North did win in 2003 & 2011. It's 8 years since the last loss and again OSU has a new coach and a new quarterback. That didn't work for us in 2011.
Of course in 2020 The 8 Year Itch will be over with and then Coach Day will begin another 7 game winning streak.
I didn't watch either and I'm glad lots of other people didn't watch the Southern Invitational. Low ratings is the only way that the NCAA and ESPN will get the message that there is a world beyond the SEC.
They could also consider the possibility that insisting on starting the game on a Monday night with it dragging on until around midnight doesn't help ratings either.
I'm with those who won't watch Alabama-Clemson. I don't care how good they may be, I'm sick of both of them and I won't watch them. I'm reminded of Sam Wyche saying, "There's golf to be played and tennis to be served.....". In other words there are many better things to do than watch yet another Alabama-Clemson game.
It was another very good showing for the Big Ten. Let's also keep in mind that 7 of their games had either the Big Ten team playing a Southern school in a Southern state or a Western school in a Western state. Too bad ESPN's professional SEC shills will never admit that the SEC never has to overcome such disadvantages.
I understand why OSU was left out the past two years with the terrible losses to Iowa and Purdue but that doesn't mean that every decision the playoff committee makes is right. Last year it was wrong to let Alabama in after they didn't even win a conference division and it was wrong to rank 2 loss Georgia ahead of OSU. It's clear that Georgia would have been picked if Notre Dame had lost a game. We're getting to the point where a Northern or Western team will have to go unbeaten to get in the playoff but not the NCAA's favorite SEC/ACC teams.
The system is wrong, the system should be fixed and people should stand up and be counted. It's not a question of whether any attempted boycott will work but to stand up for what is right. I am not going to personally endorse this bad system with the corrupt ESPN-SEC tie by watching the playoff games. I'll find something better to do.
It is entertaining but it's still better for any Big Ten team to win it's bowl game. It makes the conference and OSU look good even if it is a Mee-chee-gan victory. This latest Mee-chee-gan stinker devalues our victory over them and gives ammunition to the SEC shills. They'll conveniently ignore that we beat UM when they were at full strength and Florida played them when they were understrength.
On the other hand that proposed rewrite of the Victors should include "Wail to the Losers Lousy....Wail to the beaten Zeroes.... the Followers of the Worst....the Chumps who are Cursed!"
I agree that Jim Delaney should be an outspoken advocate of his conference. Yet he's remained silent all these years while we're all subjected to the constant propaganda that the SEC is great and the Big Ten is terrible. But what is this based on? Bowl games that invariably have a Big Ten team playing an SEC (or ACC) team in a southern state or a western team in a western state. Yet we're supposed to think that is of zero importance. We're not supposed to ask how good Alabama or Clemson would be if they had to play outside the south and play in bad weather. Jim Delaney should publicly ask that but he doesn't. If he's said anything, no one noticed.
It's gotten to the point that much as I've disliked Jim Harbaugh he would be a better Big Ten commissioner than Jim Delaney. The very things in Harbaugh's track record that showed his limitations as a head coach would be an asset as a Big Ten commissioner. That is,
1. Superficial but attention getting PR stunts.
2. Harbaugh is a proven sore loser and therefore someone to speak out whenever the Big Ten gets screwed..
3. Harbaugh has already gotten into feuds with the SEC and SEC shill Paul Finebaum.
Therefore with his track record it's clear that however objectionable Jim Harbaugh has been and will continue to be, he still would be a better Big Ten Commissioner than Jim Delaney.
I've lived many years in "TSUN". I don't like their arrogance in victory and their "Just whine baby" attitude in defeat. Yes Woody overdid it in the 50-14 game but do you think UM never ran up a score or did an "in your face" gesture? Don't forget Desmond Howard's Heisman crap and other games where UM ran up the score. Also don't forget the 1986 game when Harbaugh conned the ref into silencing the OSU crowd, an unprecedented move for any official to make.
I can root for "TTUN" if they play an SEC team as this SEC is even more obnoxious but that's about the limit of my tolerance for UM. Otherwise from their posturing in victory and whining in defeat I long ago decided that my favorite college football team was OSU and my second favorite team was whoever was playing Michigan.
Let's not forget the impact Urban Meyer had on the nature of Ohio State football. From Woody through Tressel it was conservative, run first and defense. Under Meyer OSU became a passing high scoring team. He wrought a revolution in Ohio State football. Woody Hayes and Urban Meyer are the coaches who had the most impact on how OSU played football.
Above all, if Ohio State isn't selected for the playoff don't watch the playoffs. Boycott the playoffs! TV ratings are the only things that the NCAA and the TV networks understand. So if OSU doesn't make the playoffss we should start a Boycott the Playoff movement. Boycott the playoffs!
About the 1986 game which I was old enough to watch as an adult, the guarantee was not the worst thing about it. The worst thing was that while trailing Harbaugh conned the ref into silencing the OSU crowd.. It was the lowest point ever in Big Ten officiating for any ref to penalize fans for cheering. That is the reason to enjoy any Harbaugh defeat and to rate him lower than Franklin or anyone else in football.
I agree. The Lions are an enigma wrapped in a hot dog inside a box of crackerjacks with a bad surprise. The latest surprise was Thanksgiving where the Bears career backup outplayed our 8 year starter who supposedly is a star. I'd also like Bosa or a lineman like him on the 1st round but maybe in a later round we'll finally have to think about getting a new quarterback after the latest fiasco.
I'll mention two "ESPN loves OSU" moments. ESPN Classic did a "20 greatest College Football traditions" show and with impeccable taste ranked "Script Ohio" number one. The second "ESPN loves OSU" moment was when the "You Can't Blame" show did "You Can't Blame Terry Porter for the 2003 Fiests Bowl Outcome". It pointed out that Terry Porter got the call right and there were other things that kept the "unbeatable" Miami Hurricanes from winning such as having OSU 4th and 14 in overtime and the unbeatable Hurricanes couldn't get a seemingly easy stop.
So there have been times when "ESPN loves OSU".
No I don't want a "tough OOC matchup". There's much more to lose than to gain. A team is better off being like Alabama last year. They played an overrated FSU team and other teams that had no chance of beating them. Did that so-so schedule keep Alabama out of the playoffs?