You can't get an assist if no one can put the ball in the basket!!
You can't get an assist if no one can put the ball in the basket!!
I think we can all agree refs are absolutely horrible, in all sports, and seemingly getting worse each year. But I find it funny a team that leads the nation in free throw attempts for the year is whining about it. Calm down Fran, the officials are more than likely responsible for half of your wins this year if not more.
it goes to show how entitlements effects the mind. He and his team are so used to getting all the calls they believe they are getting screwed when commit legitimate fouls. Bad calls both ways last night as there always will be. I actually thought it was one of the more decent officiated OSU has had in Big 10 this year. if he sat down and watched the film objectively he would realize his team still got the better end of it.
Saw that. He has hit people in the head several times this game.
This team is very frustrating, but when you are constantly playing by different rules than the other team, it cant help but be ugly. These guys and Holtmann keep their cool way better than I would.
The one tefuner OSU basket every time he has blown his whistle has gone Indiana’s way
How can the bad passing happen game after game. This is jr high stuff. Guys need to sit rest of game if they can’t make passes 30 feet from the basket. If we end up playing walk ons to complete game, so be it. It HAS to STOP
One team is complaining and one team is not. Your conclusion is one fan base must be whiners. Possibly one team is aware they got some good breaks from refs .... therefore why would they complain. Just curious.
Of course not.... we can never criticize your fellow referee brethren brotherhood. I'm sure one of them made a call to you and gave the explanation of what really happened, since then couldn't consult you during the game.
I have no doubt you no more than Holtman - who publicly informed everyone he has spoke to the "powers that be" on how unfairly his team, specifically Wesson has been officiated. And by the way the talking heads at Big 10 Network have also expressed their frustration on the same subject.
We all understand basketball is a very difficult game to officiate. We all understand they are going to be bad calls and missed calls during a game. Most normal people, who are not part of the Fraternity, are able to easily see when those bad calls and missed calls lean in one direction. It is not just Ohio State it is any game you watch anymore.
This occurred 4 times last night. First 3 times (Penn St flopped) it was a "play on" 4th time Wesson did it -- blocking foul.
Norcal, if it is soo great why have I been reading article after article about the mass exit from San Francisco area. I will have to see if I can locate it but there was an article I came across a year or two ago from here in Ohio as Ohio was experiencing a huge influx of people moving her from the Bay area. Most of those interviewed stated in was the best decision they ever made in their lives and discussed how much happier they are here and how much better the people are.
Like others, not sure what the exact point of your post is other than telling others about how your perceived life is way better than everyone else. I have been to San Fran during rush hour, even if the weather is nice no one seems to be enjoying it sitting still in their cars on the freeway.
Ohio State is cash cow of BiG 10 they need to start pushing their weight around or just leave the BIG 10. The league couldn’t survive without them
UM just getting more and more aggressive on D once they realized they didn’t have to worry about getting foul calls on them.
$250,000 is not getting paid a cent? Ok. Sad they work that hard to be this incompetent.
Or maybe you are proving my point for me in pointing out it can’t be from incompetence so they are just doing what they are told.
- why does the closer get more credit for his scoreless inning
You can take the stats on a per-nine-inning basis
True. But it is mostly proven ERA's go up the more hitters and innings you pitch in 1 game as batters see your stuff that day and stamina.
Why are outs 25,26,27 more important than the other 24 outs?
Yes, managers can make adjustments that can make it harder in 9th inning. But the reverse can happen as adjustments managers may have been forced to make earlier in the game may make it easier in the last inning. How many times are you facing 3.4.5 hitters as opposed to 7.8.9.
Good counters to my points. We will not convince each other either way. but good conversation.
Nut and Pastor, I agree officiating is not all of the teams issue. But to think that is not a huge factor and is not affecting how players play during a game is shortsighted as well. We did not play great yesterday but neither did Purdue. Many of those questionable calls seem to have come every time OSU got the score under 5. To think if those calls would have gone the other way it could have very easily changed outcome.
If OSU made more plays down the stretch could they still have won, of course. Purdue still hit some big 3's they could have missed. But one could argue they did make some plays down the stretch and they were taken away by poor officiating. We see it game after game after game. Again it is not just OSU or just the Big 10. It is pretty much every basketball game you watch these days. Many times it is not the calls they make but the ones they don't make.
I am not trying to make excuses either, I just see what I see. Wesson could have (and should have) been in the game more and Purdue deserved to have some guys on the bench for foul trouble but did not.
I agree some schools (MSU, Purdue, Wisky) seemingly get advantages from official and those schools have been the consistently the 3 best in Big 10 as of late. Coincidence? And yes there have been games when OSU seemingly got the best of the calls. Few and far between.
The most difficult stretch in his career because he has probably never dealt with so much 1 - sided refereeing. He very politically called out the refs in his press conference earlier this week. He got a technical in this game and the look on his face last night late in the game showed he knew his players had no chance to compete. As Matta once said " I have no idea how to tell my players what is a foul and what isn't"
If you think I am just a 'whiner' I will gladly watch these last 5 games with you and point things out. it is not just OSU - Rutgers totally was getting screwed last Saturday against Minnesota. These games in Big 10 rarely get called the same way for both teams.
We are barking up the wrong tree with the Refs. They are just doing what they are told. There is a reason they get paid $250,000 a year to work 1 day a week for about 22 weeks. It's called hush money. But glad everyone is now catching up after last week, this has been happening for decades. it is just harder to conceal with all the camera's now. It is higher up than Refs.
Refs are too incompetent to just be "incompetent". Plus if it was just incompetent it would be evenly that way for every team. We all know there are some teams that always get favorable calls and others that seem to constantly get screwed. It is nothing new.
Not really. Punters maybe involved all through the game. OSU/Mich St this year. And be responsible for helping get your team the lead. Kickers can actually make the kick that wins the game. Rivera comes in after his team is winning and for the most part only pitched one inning. He gets rewarded for not screwing it up. In a 9 inning game there is a good chance the other team did not score in at least 4 of those and probably more, why does the closer get more credit for his scoreless inning. Why are outs 25,26,27 more important than the other 24 outs? And a save counts if it is a 3 run game, you can give up 2 and still get the save. The save is the most ridiculous stat in all of sports.
IN Baseball, he should have to participate in more than 4.6% of all innings played of his teams games over his career. As is the Stat for Mariano. A regular player who plays 150 games in one season will have participated in 67 more innings than Mariano did for his entire career.
We all go crazy about recruiting and the rankings and all of that, but I think the biggest tell from all these lists are majority of players do not pan out. Either they did not pan out or it was just a numbers game and others were better and only so many people can see the field.
It proves why depth is important because it is all a numbers game. The more you have the better the odds of a couple turning out. Which is why (Tathan) you continue to recruit the best players at every position every year and nothing is promised.
Obviously OSU should not have lost to Purdue, but it would have been nice if they would have not proceeded to lay an egg the rest of the year. Oklahoma gets to opportunity to atone for their loss by playing Texas again. It sure would have been nice for OSU to play Purdue again. That could have made things interesting for the committee.
The SEC bias continues to be beyond ridiculous when you look at the entire 25. We can be upset with the WV WR who continued to block the DB 10 yards out of bounds, otherwise WVU more than likely wins that game. How many other games does that similar play not get called.
If Georgie beats Bama, which is not out of realm as I watched the last Alabama game and that is all the announcers talked about "if Georgia wins they will both get again" They spoke of it as like it was already a fact. Makes me suspicious.
ACC is considered the weakest conference in football and they could end up getting 2 teams in (Clemson and fake ACC ND) If Georgia wins the committee would have to deal with pressure of having only 2 conferences represented. The committee should consider ND as part of the ACC and should have to play CCG. Time to for the special treatment of ND to stop. The landscape of college football has changed, join a conference or be left out. None of this we play an ACC schedule but we are not part of the ACC, we we are in every sport but Football. Shame for ACC to allow that.
Perhaps instead of asking if he paid her to do the interviews, they should have asked did she and her Lawyer pay him to do the story. Think about it, after the story of him violating the protection order and this became a story, you know every Columbus media outlet, Ohio media outlet, and many National outlets were knocking on her door or making phone calls to get an interview. She finally accepts an interview with an unemployed reporter who has no outlet to release the story, hence, using Facebook. What!!
Something just seems off about that.
I think the most interesting thing about this is not bulletin board material, but they admit Bama plays a cupcake schedule. I thought every game in the SEC was a grind and tougher than a Super Bowl.
Don't sweat it Denver I know a lot of people who think the same as you.
Anyone else notice last night against Purdue how easy it was to guard Carr when he was not allowed to push off to get open or once had the ball. It rendered him totally useless.