Timing of DJ's tweets is unclear to me (one of the problems of getting old)....but I'm thinking it happened early this spring or last winter.....definitely after things cooled down from last summer. It was weird that it seemingly came out of nowhere like DJ was looking for a fight.
DJ was widely popular around these parts when he was doing the Hurry Up. His "Marionaire" persona was funny, and he had interesting things to say about OSU, but all that built-up goodwill evaporated overnight when he started what many people believe to be his harassment of Zach Smith....seemingly unprovoked harassment, months after last summer's developments.
It felt like it came out of nowhere after Zach had already been dethroned, and it came across as petty and unnecessary, and the dude just wouldn't let it go....he just went after Zach over and over to the point where he made Zach the sympathetic figure....and people were like "feck you, DJ."
And then Zach reports that DJ had been accused of pistol-whipping some old lady over a drug deal gone bad.....and it's holy shitke what the hell is someone like DJ doing going after Zach Smith when he's been accused of a LOT worse things? That was the nail in the coffin for ole DJ.
Glass houses.....glass houses.
Hopefully DJ is not near the cock in real life that he is on the internet. I can honestly say that I've never seen a person portray themselves worse on the internet than DJ has.
DJ may be dickish on the internet, but he's not dumb. I'm sure he's going to record it.
I did find it interesting to hear Zach say in Episode 5 he grew up a TTUN fan because at age 3 OSU did his grand daddy wrong. He even wore a Chuck Woodson #2 jersey to a TTUN game, but that all changed in 2000 when a one Mr. James Tressell was hired----Zach said his mom and aunts immediately cast away their resentment and came back to the OSU family.
Pretty understandable they resented OSU (gotta always stick up for family), but fell in love with OSU again after the Senator was hired. Very cool.
I hear ya, I hear ya. I used to love watching PSU win their bowl games against SEC teams (until last year's debacle against UK), but some of their fans have gotten a little too chippy with OSU folks over the years.
Wow. It feels like they're in a death spiral - I have connections to their QB (who is a super high character guy) and starting to feel bad for PSU.
Yea, we all want to hear some zingers from both sides - and if, after they make their "respectful" points/counterpoints, they want to start slinging some mud, then who am I to say no? ha
I just want to make sure it doesn't end up into unintelligible gibberish because at that point we need to hear all the insults; otherwise, it's not funny!
I was in the "anti-Zach" camp until I saw DJ's tweets to Zach, and I don't think I'm alone among 11W's posters when I say that DJ's tweets come across as petty, meanspirited, dickish, cheap shots, and were unnecessarily "kicking a man when he's down."
He a complete bully - and I viewed DJ's post above how he couldn't possibly be a bully because Zach is in the position of power as a former $400k/year OSU football coach as complete rubbish. Online bullies can bully multi-million dollar fashion models, sports stars, or politicians - if you're on Twitter, you know what I'm talking about.
No one likes a bully. DJ has unintentionally made Zach a more sympathetic figure. I only hope they behave with a modicum of self-respect in the podcast. We don't need a bunch of yelling, screaming and name calling, but instead let each person present their side and go from their. If they talk over each other, no one's going to understand what the heck they're trying to say.
I think you have to chalk this up to "this is such a crazy story that there's no way someone is making it up."
A "Truth is stranger than fiction story."
I think that has something to do with it, and if I remember correctly, Warriner was widely considered one of the top OL coaches (if not the best), and as a way to keep him on staff, he was made "Co-Offensive" Coordinator. You see it all the time with various coaches' titles changed (LJ, and various other Defensive coaches); however, in hindsight, Warriner clearly wasn't ready to be calling the plays.
Urban appears to have admitted he made a mistake by giving him play calling responsibilities, but he probably didn't realize Warriner wasn't up to the task until it was too late. Namely, they were probably a couple games into the season at which point Urban must have thought more damage would be done by replacing them than by maintaining the status quo. And you know what, he might be right - we will never know if team/coaching staff morale would have taken an unexpected hit or if the news would have created such news that it could have caused the team to be distracted.
Hindsight is 20/20, but Urban should have risked Ed walking rather than letting him call the plays.
I'd like to hear it, too. There is a way to submit questions on Zach's website.
It's all about context. A patriotic American can pull it off while an American hating English person couldn't - just like how black dudes can make fun of their race, but a Latino better not say it.
But Urban doesn't joke around like Dabo does so comparing himself to Osama would make Urban look like he's not being genuine; however, when Davo says it's hilarious because such a comparison of how he's treated back in his home state is hilarious.
Two people saying the same thing - one dude gets laughs the other one gets groans. It's really not unusual.
Yea, I cringed a little bit when Zach first brought up Hartline's name because he's the dude that replaced him and I was afraid he would hold it against him. However, he couldn't have been more complimentary about him and even called him "elite."
Hmmm. That's interesting and not what I expected because I) Zach tends to hold grudges against folks who he believes kicked him when he was down last summer and ii) he pretty much all but asked them for a job in Episode 3.
I greatly admire Dabo, and I don't see any reason to be offended by his comment. He's simply joking that he's no longer Mr. Popular in Alabama - it's not like he's made anti-American comments before so he can jokingly compare himself to Obama if he want to - no one believes for a second that Dabo is cool with 9/11 or making fun of any killed that day.
Silver: agreed. Zach's discussion of Warriner and the boondoogle of the 2015 offense has really helped me get over that lost season. That confirmed what Cardale said about Warriner in the lettermanrow podcast a couple months ago.
Prior to that, I think Buckeye Nation blamed Beck for the mess in 2015 - so thank you Zach (and Cardale) for setting us straight.
You're absolutely right about Zach being born for the podcast world - the dude knows how tell a good story. I did find his discussion about Barstool Sports to be very "arse-kissing" almost like he's angling for a future gig with them. Which is awesome - everyone should always be out there hustling and promoting themselves, but I wouldn't be surprised if ends up at Barstool someday.
It was interesting to hear Zach say that Urban and Mullen were not buddy-buddy. because as a fan, you always think that the HC and his assistants are best friends. But if you think about it, Urban and Mullen are both alpha males - and even though Mullen reported to Urban, two extreme alpha males are often times going to butt-heads.....just cool to hear it from an insider like Zach....you'd NEVER hear this from a writer like Pete Thamel, and the army of other sports writers because 1) even those guys don't have true insider access, and 2) they are very careful not to report something that might get their access to those coaches' programs cut-off.
I'm dying to hear Zach's stories about UF---particularly about Aaron Hernandez, SEC recruiting stories, and EVERYTHING about the MNC game against OSU---everything before, during and after that game. What did UF coaches think about Troy Smith, did they hear anything about him hitting the Heisman dinner circuit too much, etc. etc.
What negative things has he posted about OSU? On the contrary I think he's been extraordinarily positive about OSU in general - and specifically about individuals like Urban, Day, Beck, Schiano and Hartline. He's only been negative with certain individuals such as Warriner, Drake and Herman----and you know what, that's fine by me, no one should be above criticism and only someone like Zach Smith, a person with no future in big time college football coaching, has the freedom to tell the unvarnished truth about people.
I'm sure Ryan Day and his family are currently 100% confident he will be head ball coach at OSU forever; however, the first time when/if he loses a couple games to TTUN (God help us) or he suffers a couple 4 loss seasons (God help us), and an NFL owner starts whispering sweet nothings in his ear......ALL BETS ARE OFF.
But you can say this about pretty any college coach....in the mean time, I'm not worrying about it, and want to watch him kick some serious tail in Columbus in perpetuity.
If Zach is reading this: fantastic idea about telling UF and SEC stories - that opens up a whole NEW viewership diversifying your listeners into the SEC. You just got to let those SEC fans know about your podcast and how you will discussing the SEC - get on FINEBAUM, get yourself talked about on the big SEC football message boards.
Good luck. I strongly believe that EVERYONE deserves a second or third chance.
Yes sir I just noticed that so I just edited my comment.
I can't wait to hear Episode 4----the Zach vs. DJ stuff has the makings of internet gold. It sounds like it's heading in the right direction, too. Namely, there won't be a lot of name calling (hopefully) - I just want to hear them give each other some good natured ribbing - kind of like how Howard Stern used to give people some shite in his early radio days.
I'm just looking for some humor - nothing mean spirited. Both Zach and DJ have some skeletons in their closets - just don't be total assholes about it, but pulling each other's junk about it could be funny.
- New things I learned on Episode 3: i) Adidas west coast recruiting - I had no idea, ii) the sign the GA's hold up on the sideline is all bull shit. Really? I had no idea...I always thought they used it for signaling in plays, iii) Urban stories about how hard he pushed his assistants to the point of him being an outright dick head if he did this in the "real" world which I can attest to thru a friend who is best friends with Fickel - and Urban did some effed up shit with him namely right after the birth of one of Fickel's kids (but it sounds like that's just how Urban pushes all his assistants).
- Thanks Zach. I can honestly say his podcasts are the most interesting things I've heard about college football----EVER, and I can't wait to hear about his SEC stories, and the best stadiums to visit as a college football fan.