Well at least this is not only going to an Ohio State problem, but all other programs. But this is nothing entirely new - a number of first round NFL picks did it e.g. Troy Aikman, Cam Newton, Randy Moss, last two Heisman winners, etc. So many saying these guys are not good enough and quitters is a little far fetched. Joe did it last year and many were singing is praises and saying how they will not cheer for LSU. Yes- he was grad transfer, but he moved on to start somewhere b/c he want to play. Does it bite that there is little depth - yes. He is kid that wants to play, and if your kid was in the same position would you tell them to ride the pine b/c that is the proper thing to do - especially if he had potential to be a NFL player as a 3rd to 5th round pick when you could not beat out 1st or 2nd round pick? The chances of being picked is slim to none if you never started in college.
I remember it always being cold and miserable that time of year. A little bragging but here is a photo from the Times Leader of one of my finals matches there.
Wrestling is exceptionally frustrating - and I agree you see many kids that are great on top and toss the legs in and ride for the entire period. And I do not know better than the coaching staff - but did spend the time on the mat.
I would think someone from the Ohio Valley would know. Did you ever go to the OVACs in Wheeling when you were in school?
For the love of GOD. He is the best on his feet in the entire weight class. If he gets caught rolling around from being on top - which he has a tendency to ride high and thus putting him a potential position to get caught for a reversal and maybe back points too and there is the match. If he cuts him loose and it takes the position away. Now if he gets taken down it is tied but unlikely he get ridden out for the rest of the match and gets an escape and wins. He did not cut him loose when up by only a point that would be a different position. At the end of the day he won the decision was made you may not agree with it and that is fine.
Ryan had nothing to do with the way Martin failed to wrestle as well as he should have. Do you even know what Martin's wrestling style is? If you did you would know it is similar to Kyle Snyder's - they like to cut their opponents. If Martin would have taken his opponent down - would you have disagreed or said, "I guess he knows what he is doing." Martin - if wrestling well likely does take his opponent down 85% or more of the time in the situation like that. So you do what got you there and not change the script. I am not the one asking everyone, why did he do this - and then when someone tells you get mad at the explanation. In this situation - he obviously was not wrestling well so you go to you what you do best. No need to get mad - but this is 100% on Martin not the coach. If the coach makes the right call in football and the WR drops it or the RB fumbles - do you blame the coach. I guess you can. If you do not want to listen to someone who has the knowledge and experience totally up to you. Have a great day.
Okay - agreed
so how is this the coaches fault. If responding to the thread
Also - I am not an untrained eye as you state you are. Thousands of hours spent in this sport.
yes - it is not whether or not if you agree with what he did. There was a reason. I will defer to you if you have as much experience coaching Martin as the OSU coaches.
That would depend on the match. He is obviously much more comfortable on his feet. A four-time all-American and might know what he is doing. Easy to make the call watching on TV.
This is not on the coach. This is all on the wrestler at this point and time. He is not calling plays like a football or basketball coach. Do not tell me that Tom Ryan failed pump him up or something lame like that. Yes - you can say what the fuck is Martin doing.
My opinion - it was a close call. It appeared that control or lack there of was not established until Nolf's knees was off the mat and that was likely caused it to be overturned. Very close though - but what do I know only thousands of hours spent on the resilite.
You can score points for your team in a tournament in three ways:
1st place: 16 points
2nd place: 12 points
3rd place: 10 points
4th place: 9 points
5th place: 7 points
6th place: 6 points
7th place: 4 points
8th place: 3 points
Tournament scores tend to include the minimum number of points that have already been obtained at the time the score is listed. If a wrestler has advanced to the finals, his team has already been awarded 12 points in their team score because even if he loses the championship match, he would still finish second and get the 12 points. The winning wrestler is simply given the additional points after winning (in this case, 4 more points to the overall team score).
Each advancement in championship bracket: 1 point
Each advancement in consolation bracket: 0.5 point
Bye followed by win in championship bracket: 1 point
Bye followed by win in consolation bracket: 0.5 point
Win a match in the championship half of the bracket, get a point. Win a match in the consolation half of the bracket, get half a point. If you receive a bye, you do not automatically get a point (or half-point) for that "match" -- you must win your following match.
Each fall, forfeit, default, disqualification: 2 points
Each tech fall (w/ near fall points): 1.5 points
Each tech fall (w/o near fall points): 1 point
Each major decision: 1 point
Example if wrestler A - finished 2nd, with three wins and one loss, and had a fall and two major decisions among his wins. He accrued 19 team points. He got 12 points for placing 2nd. He got 3 advancement points for advancing through three rounds in the championship bracket. He got 2 bonus points for picking up a fall. He got 2 more bonus points for picking up two major decisions. So, in total: 19 points.
you get points for each win - championship rounds worth more than consolation rounds - plus any bonus you may get
Go Bucks- Go showing in the semis
It is a loss on his record - but definitely not the same on the scoreboard
Looks like - Parris tied for 1st with a 4.31 with Andy Isabella. Now this guy beat D. Ward in the 100m in high school - he is a track guy
or the 2017 GAME
I will stick with
He may surprise everyone - and hope he does
WOW - just weighing in at 113 - that is a lot of weight to be giving up at that size.