Playing days aside, he has to beat OSU to truly become a villain.
Realist, if you're considering passing yards or attempts as "Passing attack," it's not too imposing. Harbaugh doesn't stray far from his run first approach. The goal is for the run game to set up the play action big plays. IIRC, Patterson has only had 30 attempts twice this season, but is averaging around 23 per game. I don't think he's eclipsed 300 yards passing in any game. But, if you look at it from an efficiency standpoint, you can see that it is considerably productive.
OSU might outsmart or outplay Michigan, but I can't fathom a let down. Michigan came out on a mission against Wisconsin, Sparty, and Penn State, none of which compare to this rivalry. I think we did see letdown games against Rutgers and Indiana, largely because of looking forward to OSU.
Probably because he only has so much control. Last year (and the majority of the 2016 game) the coaching staff called a nearly perfect game, but the players--Mainly O'Korn--consistently failed to deliver. If a receiver is wide open, the Oline blocks well enough to give you a few seconds to get a pass off, but your QB can't execute, what more can you do?
Not saying you're wrong, Seattle, but do you have any examples? I remember him having Speight throw out of the endzone, which resulted in Hooker's (IIRC) pick six in 2016. Not bringing the gunners in to max protect in the infamous punt debacle against MSU was another.
Fans are finicky--not in their loyalty, but in their perception. Michigan is decent in Red Zone efficiency (around 50th) and is scoring a TD about 2/3 of the times they score in the Red Zone. Yet, versus IU, they punched it in just once, was 6/6 on FG, and failed to convert as time expired (partly thanks to an IU player kicking the ball as the official was trying to spot the ball). Skewed more toward anomaly than the norm, but now a large chunk of the fan base just chalks it up as Michigan will only score a touchdown in 12.5% of its Red Zone attempts.
I think the prediction part of it, though, may be reverse psychology of sorts or just trying to mentally prepare for losing a game that you feel like your team should win. For Michigan fans, the expectation of winning has been absent most of the last decade +. For me, 2006, 2007, 2011, and 2016 are years that I felt Michigan should win The Game. Yet, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2017 saw very competitive games that were up for grabs until the final 5 minutes (including 2011 for OSU). Even 2015, which saw the Buckeyes run away with it, it was a 3 or 4 point game at halftime.
Even when you're a heavy favorite, if you're honest with yourself, you're still nervous as Hell because of the nature of the rivalry*.
*Except for the RichRod years
Your source is the officiating crew from the 2016 installment of The Game? What are their 11W handles?
I used to care enough to get somewhat excited around the final three rounds of the playoffs. Anymore, I don't even care about The Finals.
My 7 year-old son had evaluations for basketball a couple of weekends ago. He's never played before, so I was trying to explain the basics in our basement mini-session. Then I decided to turn on the Wizards/Thunder game to reinforce the fundamentals. Talk about a waste of time. It's just a run and gun, "throw it up from anywhere" fest. They didn't run any plays, there was no defense, and barely any passing.
I've been perusing 11W for 6 or 7 years, now, and two things have remained constant: Michigan hatred and CincyOSU commenting on every single mention of ESPN. +1 for your commitment and -1 for your obsession. Have you explained to the community your affiliation, yet? If so, I missed it. Just wondering.
Speaking to the efficiency is a great point. Patterson is averaging under 23 passing attempts/game, averaging 8.5 yards per attempt. Guess who else is averaging 8.5 yards per attempt--Dwayne Haskins (on 38.6 passes/gm). Stats are weird.
The other aspect of not being "world beaters" in offensive stats is that Michigan is #5 in time of possession. Longer (time elapsed) drives equal fewer drives. Conversely, this helps Michigan's total defense yards allowed stats.
Yeah, it was nice-ish for like 7 min of the game and then they had an hour delay. Cold set in and it rained/sleeted the remainder of the game.
Michigan held Sparty under 100 yards of total offense. Those 7 points came courtesy of a Chris Evans' fumble on Michigan's 7-yard line. Sparty scored immediately after on a trick play (Philly Special). Michigan's offense had just under 400 yards of offense, but kept shooting themselves in the foot. The game easily could have been more like 38-7, but execution is part of the game.
I'm not going to discredit OSU's win--it was hard fought and a very chilly game. The events in the 3rd quarter were just mind-boggling Sparty Sparts that OSU capitalized on. Going to be a great one in two weeks!
First of all, both teams have a great shot of winning The Game.
I think you have to get some perspective here. OSU's defense looked pretty stout, from what I saw, with the exception of the Lombardi's first drive. It's a quality win no matter how it unfolded.
On the other hand, Sparty is considerably one-dimensional and has been bitten by the injury bug more than most. I cannot fathom why LeWerke even started the game, let alone played 3/4 of it with a bum shoulder. And I just can't even believe what I watched on those four consecutive Sparty touches. They literally scored 9 points for OSU and then gave the ball back to the Buckeyes in field goal range.
In the interview posted further down on this thread, it sounds like relationships with players and coaches is what he's most concerned about. With that said, I think it would be short-sighted to think that an 8-1 Michigan team controlling its own destiny to make the playoffs doesn't have more pull than an 8-5 Michigan team that lost to its two biggest rivals, the other two competitive B1G teams, and a middle-of-the-pack SEC East team.
I don't think there is a blatant conspiracy, but the B1G is largely about making money. OSU and Michigan are going to generate more money than anyone else in the B1G when it comes to TV ratings and ticket sales. I would say there is probably some inherent bias toward a legit playoff contender (i.e. if they win a big game, that team's chances of making the playoff are increased or remain in tact).
This doesn't paint the entire picture, but UofM (73.4) and OSU (75.9) rank 112th and 117th nationally, respectively, in penalty yards per game this season. Most in the B1G behind Rutgers.
On the other hand, I think we are largely biased when it comes to our own teams or our rivals. Many of you in the live-game thread were adamant that Michigan's secondary was getting away with murder against Sparty. I didn't notice that much, but, as fans, I think we hold our breath often on many coverages. Michigan finished with 95 yards of accepted penalties against them (and a handful of unsportsmanlike conducts that offset).
I personally believe, however, that the B1G is not a fan of Harbaugh. I think his comments and antics have earned some special treatment on the field (probably not entirely undeserved). Possibly related, the data presented in this table shows the offensive holding calls drawn. Mind you, Michigan and OSU have had some very talented defensive lines over the last 3+ seasons. It's pretty mind-boggling.
...Not quite as mind-boggling as the phantom holding call against Higdon in the NW game that Joel Klatt dubbed, "A penalty from Mars."
Edit: MSU also up in arms over 8-4 Michigan being selected over 9-3 MSU for the Outback Bowl. (1. Who cares about the Outback Bowl 2. See paragraph 1)
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but "NO!" I would immediately sign on the dotted line to lose 10 in row to Sparty, if it meant Michigan would win half their games against OSU (Hell, 1/3 the way things have gone lately). Sure, Sparty is pesky, annoying, and its fans are enjoying a stint of a false sense of superiority thanks to the way the last decade has played out, but for the love of God, Blu.
All roads to success require Michigan beating OSU. The pendulum must swing back to the North to right the recruiting ship. If you don't beat OSU, you aren't going to Indy. If you don't beat OSU, you aren't earning a playoff berth. We can be butthurt about rivalry records all we want, but Sparty is second fiddle any way you look at it.
With that said, let's let bygones be bygones and beat them both.
What exactly is embarrassing about losing to a top 5 team on the road in prime time?
As Johnny pointed out, we'll know if Michigan is going to compete for anything, four Saturdays from now, after playing through the meat of the schedule.
BTW, TCU isn't ranked anymore.
I think most Michigan fans will agree that Frank Clark is a bad person. However, Clark was dismissed about 36 hours after the incident. It was the Monday before the OSU game. It was handed as well as it could've been, IMO.
I'm just passing on what I read from who I consider a reliable source. I could definitely see why college students would sell or be tempted to sell ( I read some of these pairs of shoes were going for $5k+), but, personally, I don't have any direct information one way or the other.
Dumb rule, but a rule. How about the situation where a guy transfers and sells his merch from former school?
Per the resident "insider" on MgoBlog, who has proven him/herself reliable numerous times over the last 2-3 years, this seems to be exactly the case. The Michigan shoes that were made available for sale were done so by graduates, transfers, or staffers. We'll see what shakes out, but it doesn't sound like much, if anything, will come from this.
I wear my Cubs apparel to MLB stadiums I visit, but I wouldn't wear Cubs stuff to a Cardinals game in St. Louis against a random team. I was invited to a Purdue @ OSU game back when Bellisari was QB, but didn't wear a Michigan jersey out of respect to the Buckeye fans that invited me. I think it's weird to wear attire of a team outside of the sport you're watching, with the exception of something like a Reds jersey at a Bengals game if the Reds were playing in a playoff/WS game happening that same day.
I feel like most reasonable fans will tell you the frustration lies in the manner of the losses Michigan has suffered, rather than just a blanket statement that Harbaugh hasn't lived up to expectations. Are the losses Harbaugh's fault? I can think of three (2015 MSU, 2016 OSU, and 2017 SCar) that I can truly pinpoint where something he called/set up seemed to directly impact the game.
The John O'Korn transfer project was a huge failure. Jake Rudock went from pretty average Iowa QB to being an NFL backup by way of Harbaugh. Speight from meddling low 3-star to a surprising bright spot, prior to suffering a shoulder injury (broken collarbone?) late in 2016 and later a major back injury after a very underwhelming start to the 2017 season. Peters was trending quite well before the concussion against Wisconsin, typical growing pains for most young players. If development equates to Michigan fielding an elite QB, then no, Harbaugh hasn't done that. That isn't how I define development, however. On the other hand, if Patterson steps in and throws for 3500 yards and 30+ TDs, that's not because Harbaugh is a QB guru.
Two years ago, Michigan was one win away from going to Indy and playing for a playoff appearance. Last year was dubbed a rebuilding year in the preseason, before seeing that the defense may have actually improved, then everyone was left scratching their heads on why the offense wasn't clicking. It felt like, at that point, Michigan should compete for the B1G. Then there were some key injuries and before we knew it, Michigan had a five-loss season. For 2018, people view them as a team that may be the most talented in the last four years, but having a very difficult schedule playing all three major rivals on the road and Wisconsin and PSU at home.
The hot-seat argument loses hold, for me, when I think of who would take over that is as good or better than Harbaugh? Not that I agree all of these coaches are better, but Saban, Meyer, Dabo, Riley, Smart, Dantonio, Franklin, Herman, Jimbo, Kelly aren't coming to Michigan. I'd rather have Harbaugh than Miles who I think would be the most likely candidate with head coaching experience to replace him, as things currently stand.
IMO, the offensive line and the receivers are the bigger question marks. Michigan doesn't need Patterson to be a savior. They just need some competency at QB. Michigan doesn't need him to win every game for them, but he needs to make sure he doesn't lose 'em. With the exception of last year's PSU game and probably Wisconsin, Michigan was in a position to win every game if the QB (mainly O'Korn) didn't try to do more than was needed.