In your opinion, has more experience or better scheme contributed to the current success of the defense against mainly the run and not letting large chunk plays happen.
I would say I cheated just a tad because this prediction did not come before the season, but came after the first game of the season against Oregon State. Had a bet with my brother that Haskins would throw 50 touchdown passes this season. He said that was a crazy prediction because that would be an average of almost 4 (3.5 to be exact) TD passes per game, especially with the some tough games towards the end of the year. Well he hit 50 on the nose so I think I was pretty right on with that.
I think partially the issue was scheme, clearly on the Run fits for the LB's but I also think inexperience and honestly lack of mobility at the LB position didn't help. Every time I saw Malik Harrison out there he seemed to be leaps and bounds ahead of Werner and Borland. I think Harrison just had the speed to make plays and athletic ability, plus to me Borland and Werner are undersized so their ability to shed blocks was not great. Hopefully bringing in Z. Harrison along with Malik Harrison coming back should be a huge help. Plus I want to see Browning get more playing time, hopefully Day goes with the best player and not the one who has been there longer. case and point Brendon White over Isiah Pryor.
I would assume that this means that Schiano is staying, which is fine with me, especially because he has shown promise defensively, mainly last year, our defense was pretty good compared to this year, minus the atrocity that is known as Iowa, but I think what a lot of people forget if they don't follow OSU football religiously is that Schiano is a dominant recruiter compared to Grinch.
Plus, if the rumors come true about Al Washington coming to OSU from UM, that makes it even better, having the talent that Schiano brings in, eg. Wade and Okudah even Jordan Fuller, I think this defense will see an immediate improvement.
Correction, it mentions OSU in passing, but only to mention that if Clemson wins then Swinney joins Meyer and Saban as the only active coaches with more than 1 national title win.
ESPN clearly thinks so, but to me this looks like a desperate attempt to make an excuse for the low ratings the playoffs will have this year.
This article alone is ridiculous. With no mention of Ohio State in it either. They basically are saying, " Why are you mad about this game, this is what ESPN wanted so you should be happy."
The best part is those same people then make the argument that Dwayne was padding his numbers and that he only had those high numbers because he threw the ball more...Uhh okay so you claim that Tua's numbers would be better if he threw more but then ding Haskin's because he threw more? Over 100 more passing attempts than Murray or Tua and had only 1 more INT than Murray, against much better defenses and an identical completion percentage. So on that note he threw more and still completed 70% of passes which is insane and only had 8 INTs. 8 INTERCEPTIONS IN OVER 400 PASSING ATTEMPTS! What does the man have to do?!?
See that's what I have the problem with. I get that he is a good runner too, but against what defenses? The best defense they played I believe was TCU and OSU played them as well! Haskins has better numbers against better defenses, that right there should win it for him. They keep screaming well he has more passing attempts, while true, he also has the same number of INT's and the same Comp % as Murray. Think about that, he has more chances to have a lower completion percentage and more INT's but he doesn't that alone should win it for him. Its a biased award any more. Lets be real, Zeke should of won in 2015. Barrett should have in 2014. The fact Braxton Miller never got one either its really surprising.
Just a reminder that PFF had Alex Hornibrook of UW being the best QB in their pre-season rankings. I understand its pre-season, but just watching Haskins come into the UM game last season for Barrett should have been enough to show them that he should of the been the pre-season number 1. PFF is constantly awful in their QB grades, so the fact Haskins won it means a lot because he would have a huge game but then be ranked like #3 in the BIG for no reason.
"Meyer could have been remembered for the championships. But that is simply impossible. His pristine on-the-field legacy is damaged, and Meyer has only himself to blame for that."
The last sentence of this article, like are you kidding me ESPN, this man brought you a team that gave you some of the highest rated games ever, made you a ton of money and you honor him like this? Garbage, absolutely garbage.
The best excuse I have seen for why Murray should win was that he has thrown the ball less and has the same completion percentage and therefore he is better. Uhm..no, if you throw the ball more chances of your completion percentage being higher drop significantly, not only that but the chance to throw more INT's increases a ton, so for Haskins to have a 70% completion rate, only 8 INT's with over 100 more passing attempts means he is hands down better than Murray. Haskins should win, its not close, to break Drew Brees' record, on pace for 50 passing TD's and possibly 5000 total passing yards if we go out aggressive in the Rose Bowl is something that you do not see happen against Big Ten defenses, could you imagine the passing numbers he would have in the Big 12??? Lit up the #1 defense for 398 and 5 TDS, just rocked Northwestern for 499yds and 5TDs. It would be a travesty if he didn't win it, however the ESPN narrative that they want to push is, "Look at how amazing Murray is, playoff birth, Heisman and MLB player." I get it, he is a good athlete, but put him in the SEC or Big Ten and he still would be good, but I doubt you see him put the same numbers up, just wouldn't happen. Haskins should win, deserves to win, but will lose due to bias and anti-OSU rhetoric put out by ESPN and its contributors. Sad but true.
Still never understood why they thought this OSU team was as bad as 2011. 11-1 currently, not sure how that compares to the 2011 season. Granted Finebaum thinks OSU is awful, granted thats all PR and posturing to discredit OSU from a CFP bid in case Georgia does beat Alabama. But to say this team is 2011 bad, which honestly that team then was talented, just young and with an inexperienced interim HC.
I want him in the game too, not super often but enough to make a defense have to worry about it. Problem is he has not thrown a pass since mop up duty in the OOC games. If we bring him in he needs to throw, not a ton but enough to make the defense have to defend it. Right now he is Senior year Braxton Miller 2.0. Any time Miller was lined up at QB it was a guaranteed run and the defense knew it. One pass play changes all of that especially if it scores a TD or goes for a big gain depending on field position obviously. Then that opens the read option even more because of that threat.
The only group I honestly bashed all season was the LB group, which definitely played a ton better this time. I honestly think that "uncomfortable and direct" conversation Meyer had with the defensive staff worked wonders. The LB's seemed more responsive to the plays instead of constantly being out of position, to me that was a coaching thing all season, they didn't get caught up in traffic nearly as much nor did they get swallowed up by linemen blocking them and allowing chunk plays, I think the longest play UM had all game was in garbage time when Milton threw into double coverage and the WR just stole it from our DB's. Other than that I think their longest play maybe was under 30 yards.
To add to this about Werner and this is something I thought of after watching the play a bunch, the pre-snap motion should have kept Wener on the outside for contain to force the possible Jet Sweep to the boundary or to slow it down for the pursuit, so the fact that even though he see's the pre-snap motion, for him to still jump inside just blows my mind. To me that is bad coaching and bad instincts, and those two things combined result in what we saw on Saturday. Clearly, the coaching doesn't want to be fixed so the only remaining option is changing the player.
I agree that if this was a called blitz by Schiano, its clear that it was a safety blitz because as much as I think White has played well and played smart, I am highly suspect to think with his limited experience that he would blitz the B gap on his own volition. So the fact that Werner does this means 1 of two things. Either the play did not get relayed correctly to the players and there was confusion, which looks like it could be true since White and Werner run into each other, or Werner tried to make a play on his own and not only ruined the blitz by White but also really hurt his team by leaving his assignment and completely letting the RB get the outside and up field. Regardless of which option you think it is, it falls back on coaching and teaching discipline and assignment oriented defense. Our coaches need to teach these LB's contain, theres 10 other guys on your side who can make the play, but give them a chance. Werner gave no one else a chance to make that play by not keeping contain. Simple concept, if they can't do it, I'm sorry but they need benched for the guy that is willing to do that.
What the hell is Werner doing in that last gif of the OT run. Hold the edge! He jumps inside completely and loses all contain, if he stays put and slides his feet keeping the RB in front of him, two things could happen, 1 the RB gains maybe 5-7 yards but is tackled, or the RB is forced back to the middle where the rest of the defense is and its maybe a 2-3 yard gain. Instead Werner jumps up field for no reason because he should know he wont be able to get the angle to make that tackle, and as shown the RB runs right around him and goes for a huge gain. Its stuff like this that should be straightened out in the film room, this is not a talent issue, this is coaching. I've head countless times about setting the edge as a defender and holding that to force the runner to slow down, have to wait or move back to the middle. Our LB's consistently do not do that, and occasionally our DE's as well. This is our issue, its so apparent, our LB's are not sound in their contain and they get too aggressive and jump up field when they need to hold the edges. Such a simple thing yet Bill Davis clearly does not know it and is not teaching it.
From what I have seen with UM, stop their run game, then they struggle to score. Patterson is decent but he is not Haskins' level, so if we can shut down the run, or at least contain it somewhat, then I think UM will struggle, at least for a half. The real question is can we pass the ball against UM. I know Haskins can do it but can our OL give him enough time the have clean pockets to throw out of, but the caveat here is if OSU can get the run game going finally after 12 games, then I think this UM team will be in a bind, sell out on the run and possibly get beat down field, or cover deep and give up more YPC.
This is the exact same thing I said during and just after the game. The LB's in the first half had no clue they were even playing football. Then we made that adjustment and we stifled the running game much better, albeit a couple of runs still gained a small chunk but it was shutdown for the most part, but Maryland adjusted and started bombing the ball down field in 1v1 situations. That bobbled TD catch against Sheffield was under thrown and to the inside, if Sheffield turns his head around, he probably intercepts it but he didn't, got a hand to knock it away slightly but not enough to force an incomplete pass. The last sentence of your comment literally sums up the defense all season. "It's not lack of talent...its poor defensive coaching." Agree 100%
Low only because I think we focus more on fixing the running game still, and hopefully we get out to a huge lead early so he can not play much in the second half to allow for easier recovery before "The Game"
Average Joe's has $0.20 wings on Mondays, or at least they did. Would have to verify that to be sure.
I agree, we have not been good against the run, I think its a scheme thing more or less and not putting our LB's in good run defense position. However, I said this last year when we played PSU. All the pundits were saying how PSU had a top 5 defense and that it would be hard to score, which we put up 39 points against them and a ton of yards, but what everyone forgot was PSU had played no high powered offenses up to that point in the season, so their numbers were clearly inflated. My point is, yes UM has a good defense, but the only good offense they played against they lost to, that being Notre Dame, so while I will give them credit, they have not truly been put to the test. Same with Wisconsin in 2014, 59-0. I just think a lot of people look at stats and rankings of those stats without looking deeper. OSU would have a top 10 defense if we play teams with the offensive capabilities of Rutgers week in and week out. Just keep that in mind when you hear UM having an amazing defense.
Biggest thing that I want to see in this game, is using the run game to set up the pass, the way we used to run the offense at OSU. This season other than last week, it looked like we tried to use the pass to set up the run, and by run I mean RPO's. If the passing game is working I guess we assumed that teams would bite more on the Pass aspect of the RPO and our run game would start working, in theory that makes sense however, if they jump the pass route option then we are left with the run by either the QB or RB. All teams we face know that Haskins is not a runner so they key the RB every time. If we use the traditional run to set up the pass then both become much more effective.