Michigan completely dominated the Little House on the Prairie era. Pa and Ma could ride a horse and carriage to Ann Arbor and watch the Leaders and the Best take Carlisle Indian School to the woodshed. Go Blue!!!!
Genesis (pluys Phil Collins solo)
I high school, I considered Zeppelin better than all other bands put together Over the ensuing 30 years, my tastes have changed and now I consider them mediocre for me. I don't argue with their talent. I just don't care for their music anymore. I never saw them in person, but Song Remains the Same is literally the worst sounding concert recording I have ever heard. If that were my only exposure to them, They would occupy the "sucks" category for me.
PS, Bonham was overrated.
OSU crowds are much better these days than they were in the 1990s - a real low point. i used to see a lot of cringe-worthy behavior at games and horrible treatment of visiting fans back then. It still goes on in spots, but that can happen anywhere.
1. TIger Woods 2000 US Open win at Pebble Beach. Most dominating performance in any sport in my lifetime
2. Hitler's first time speaking in front of the NSDAP before he was even a member. I would love to see what was so apparently compelling about the way he could captivate a room
3. The constitutional convention for reasons stated better than I can earlier in the thread
4. Watch the Beatles play in Hamburg when they were completely unknown and were in the process of forming the energy that would make them great.
Fargo - greatest film ever made
Road House - Greatest bad movie ever and it's not even close
Chariots of Fire - Beautiful film
The people I had a hard time believing were the father/son (his HS quarterback and dad). Those two just rubbed me wrong. I felt like they had it all figured out. In reality, I wondered how close Hernandez was to either. They seemed like they had a lot of BS.
The doc was entertaining, but I didn't feel like it shed any new light on anything. Who the hell knows why he did what he did. Was it because he was gay, CTE'd, sexually abused, on drugs - or maybe he was just a bad guy who couldn't control his anger. Whatever the reason, it was a sad story. He seemed to have so much in his favor, but you never know what's inside a person's mind and soul.
The coolest story I thought was Odin Lloyd's mom. To have that happen to a child and to forgive the person and wish them eternity in heaven is truly awesome. I only wish I could be that big were I in a similar situation.
HS Sports is a good one. I thought when I played football, it was a fast-moving, hard-hitting affair. I saw video recently from one of our games in 1988 and it looked comical. We were a perennial playoff team, but we would have gotten crushed by any of these "national" teams that play on ESPN each year.
Just finished Say Nothing by Patrick Keefe. It is about the Northern Irish Troubles. One of the best histories and nonfiction books I've read in the last five years.
I am a lifelong Ohio State fan. I grew up walking distance to the Horseshoe. Woody Hayes' house was almost directly behind mine. I came of age during the late 1970s and 1980s. My favorite Buckeyes were guys like Cal Murray, Tim Spenser, Jimmy Gayle, Mike Tomzack, Art Schlichter, Vaugn Broadnax, Keith Byars, Chris Carter, Speilman, etc. Those were the golden years of OSU football for me. Not because they were the greatest teams, but because of the time in my life when they played. All of the success since then is great, but I don't think I'll ever feel as magical about it as I did as a kid.
I still love Ohio State, but I don't care for college football nearly as much as I used to. I'm not entirely sure why. I miss the traditional New Year's bowls and the sometimes debate over the NC perhaps. I think the playoff makes CFB more of an NFL wanna-be than anything else. When it was just he New Years games and conference championships meant everything in the world, that was so unique - the NFL had nothing like that. Now the CFB has mimicked the end of the season pattern in the NFL but with much less fanfare. Unless you're a fan of the teams in the CFB, most people don't care about it the way casual fans watch the NFL playoffs.
I don't have first-hand experience with Clemson fans, so I can't say much for their attitude. For those on here being sanctimonious though, let's remember that OSU does not exactly have a reputation for being the most sportsman-like fan base. Hanging out on Lane Avenue for night game might even convince you that we have a couple of jackasses in our pack.
Not sure if it was my first one, but I went to the 1980 OSU/Illinois game with my dad and grandfather. Ohio State won 49-42 in a shoot out. Art Schichter set an OSU record for passing yards and Illinois quarterback Dave Wilson set and NCAA record for passing yards.
Whatever you guys wanna say, you gotta admit that during the Teddy Roosevelt era, Michigan was incredible. I remember a picture of a guy wearing pillow-stuffed leather pants running circles through Ann Arbor High School's fine 1887 defense. Shit, the 1904 team beat the Chicago Physicians & Surgeons school 75-0. Total domination.
So, yes they may be a little below normal standards today when they can't win NC's like they did during that stretch. But just ask a school called "Michigan Normal" who tried to tangle with the Gustav Ferbert's mighty 1898 team and were promptly shut out 21-0 - Michigan is "the leaders and the best".
BO: Those who stay will be champions.
LITTLE KID: Wow Bo, you stayed a really long time. How many championships did you win?
"You know, it's just that people like this... you know... they get all they want so they really don't understand, you know... about a life like Frank's. I mean, when you've loved and lost the way Frank has, then you, uh, you know what life's about." - Limo driver in Spinal Tap
Besides 1997 and 2006, Michigan hasn't really been a football force in decades. If you take their Teddy Roosevelt era dominance out of their overrall record, they aren't really a blue blood program at all.
BO: Those who stay will be champions
KID: Wow Bo, you stayed a long time. How many championships did you win?
Let's be objective, pretty much every prominent team fan base behaves the same. I have no doubt there are delusional Clemson fans. But people are people and there are plenty of delusional OSU fans. I live in Alabama. If I'm honest, the Alabama fan base reminds me of the Ohio State fan base in my hometown of Columbus. Some of them are obnoxious, most aren't. Many believe there exists an "anti-Alabama" bias in the sports media. Some think the rest of the country spends an inordinate amount of time thinking about them. Some see their team as constantly facing an "us against the world" situation. OSU fans are no different. Most OSU fans are great. Some are obnoxious and embarassing. That's just human nature.
Any list like this is an exercise in opinions - nothing more. There's no way to compare coaches when you factor in different eras, different players, different strength of schedules, etc. I don't know the first thing about coaching, but would have a better record than a good coach theoretically if I had the circumstances that could provide it.
Maybe a lot of voters don't like Urban - who knows. I don't believe there is some sort of institutional bias against Ohio State at ESPN though. We're one college, albeit a big one. We're not even an NFL team. We don't matter nearly as much to non OSU fans and the media as many of us would like to believe. Remember:
- At age 20, you worry what everyone thinks of you
- At age 40, you don't care what anyone thinks of you
- At age 60, you realize that no one was thinking about you in the first place.
Some of us have OSU stuck at age 20.
And to imagine that the white out is only yards away from the Penn State football showers, home of the worst atmosphere in college football.