Disagree about Smith. Agree 100% about Tate > Fields(hope I’m wrong though).
1) My name is CincyOSU
2) Why would I care? This is good news.
And the point of this is?
Yet, he's a better player than you could have ever dreamed to be...
Cincy, you are a Platinum Club commenter on non-ESPN topics.
I've actually made it a point to try and not comment on ESPN shit for awhile(and there have been some doozy takes lately). It's been good for my sanity so I might continue to refrain from posting on those topics. That being said, I'm only human so I'm sure I chime in every now and then but I think I'm going to take a long hiatus from the ESPN bickering.
Except you don't know him at all. You don't know what conversations took place between himself and Day. I'm can tell you with 100% certainty that his teammates love and respect him(I know the parent of the current player).
KMP - Perfectly said. The way this fanbase, one who created live game threads for his high school games, turned on him is embarrassing. The minute we heard Fields might be transferring here, the fanbase(especially the internet warriors) began acting like Tate wouldn't start for Dublin Coffman's JV squad...lest we forget how we rejoiced when a Top 60 Player and one of the best QBs in the class committed here. I have no doubt the players check out these boards...if I were him and saw this kind of shit I'd be pissed off too. I don't agree with his mouth, but he deserves way more respect than he is getting.
That being said, what likely happened here is that Day had a conversation with Tate letting him know how the offense was going to look and how his skill set measured up against that offense. It makes sense for him to move on, this isn't the offense he committed to three years ago.
Plus he’s old as balls, has fallen off his recruiting hype,
Larry Johnson is two years younger than Mattison...not sure age is really an argument you want to use here.
We have taken almost the same number of recruits as Bama over the last 5 years. Just sayin.
I’m not sure why people are acting like Tate has no shot at winning the starting job. It’s actually quite funny watching people shit on him, when those same people were likely jumping up and down when he committed three years ago. The way this fanbase has essentially turned on him for the bright new shiny object is kind of sad. He deserves more respect.
That being said, I could do without his mouth. Just shut up and let your play do the talking.
Dear God, don’t be that guy.
I hate to tell you this, but with your "views" you are just as much a part of the problem. I suppose the other outlets that share your political views are 100% factual and unbiased?
White? No he hasn’t.
He's baaack! You deserve a medal for persistence....get kicked off the site for being an asshat, create a new identity, get kicked off for being an asshat, and on and on and on.
In lieu of Cincy's wrath... I will go ahead and proclaim that ESPN is a most noble network, and accept your apology for accusing ESPN of being anything but unequivocally unbiased.
This is categorically stupid and proves you haven't the slightest clue what I am "defending". Carry on.
Hey, you’re back! So is this you 18th, or 19th different identity?
Also, what does this have to do with ESPN? Why would ESPN report that OSU and Bama have signed virtually the same number or players over the last 4 years? I think you’re gettjng you’re delusions mixed up.
Is it possible you’re just “Baker biased” because of what he did against us last year? There is literally no one, other than a few disgruntled OSU fans, who think this guy is even remotely close to a cancer. In reality, he has cured the cancer that has afflicted Browns QBs over the years. His teammates love him, the fans love him, and he’s got the respect of players around the league.
Let what happened last yet go, it’s over. Move on.
Using the "last time we played" logic, wouldn't that mean Jeff Brohm is a better coach than Meyer? Or Kirk Ferentz? There are better arguments to prove your point than this one.
Tate has done absolutely nothing as far as being a QB to be excited about. He ran a wildcat and threw a couple passes when it didn’t matter against overmatched teams in blowouts.Dude could be a great player. I hope he is. But the unwarranted love is crazy.
The same reason people LOVED Haskins coming into the year was how he looked in the spring game and in mop up duty, other than 1 half of a game against Michigan. We are now doing the same thing with Fields, who doesn't even play here, and Baldwin, who NONE of us have seen throw a ball. Yet, we refuse to extend this same courtesy to Tate and instead act like he's some MAC level QB. Do people forget, just like Fields, he was a very highly rated QB prospect as well.
People also liked Joe B and would not look at the fact that Haskins was first of the bench not Joe B when it mattered.
That's because Joe got hurt. He beat out Haskins going into the season. I'm not saying I think he was better, or that I wanted him to win the starting job, only that this statement is only partially true.
The same with Weber. People loved him. They said he did this and that as a freshman. Then Dobbins killed it. However their aligance was to Weber. People just want hero’s.
I'm not sure why you brought this up, Weber is AT LEAST as good, if not better, than Dobbins.
It makes sense to me that ESPN wants to financially harm the OSU brand due to our affiliation with the Big Ten Network and Fox Sports.
So, you're telling me that ESPN has paid the B1G over $1.5 BILLION over the last two TV contracts with the sole intent to turn around and trash the league and it's top brand? You're telling me that ESPN is paying the B1G more money annually over the next 6 years because they think it's a smart business move to trash the brand they just invested hundreds of millions of dollars in? You're playing on both sides of the logic fence. One one side, you're claiming ESPN hates the B1G because of TV contracts, then on the other side, you dismiss the fact that ESPN also has invested over $1.5 BILLION into TV contracts with the B1G over the last 10 years.
Of course during the games the announcers slam the Buckeyes and show their obvious bias.
There is bias happening all right, it's called confirmation bias. You cling to ANYTHING that you think is a negative against OSU and ignore anything else that goes against that belief.
Yes but it isn't front page like you know it would if tOSU hired him.
You're creating a fictitious scenario and passing it off as fact. I can play this game too. If OSU hired Durkin and Finebaum spoke about Urban the way he is currently speaking about Saban, you would be jumping up and down with rage saying this is more proof that ESPN hates OSU.
We dont focus on them
Because you don't LOOK for them. You don't look for, or interpret, an article that is "anti bama" they way you LOOK for, or interpret, anything that might be construed as "anti OSU". And what exactly is an "anti OSU article"? An article about your favorite team that you don't like isn't "anti" anything and doesn't prove anything other than how overly sensitive some people in our fanbase are.
So what your saying is they treat both Ohio State and Alabama the same.
I NEVER said that. It's telling you tried to put those words in my mouth though.
And yes it makes financial sense for them to slam OSU. They get more clicks
So, when it comes to "proving" that ESPN hates OSU it's ok to use money as a reason...in your example "page clicks". But, when it is factually pointed out that ESPN pays the B1G hundreds of millions of dollars for their new TV contract(this is on top of the original BILLION dollar contract), which is more annually than any other conference over the next 6 years, money means nothing and doesn't prove anything?
Compare these articles with ones on Ohio State, and they aren't similar at all. The worst thing they wrote about bama was they now have egg on their face.
Confirmation bias and selective reasoning. It's telling you focused only on one of the quotes, and ignored this one.
"Make no mistake: Alabama's decision wasn't about rehabilitation and second chances. It was about winning, and now the Crimson Tide look like big losers -- from the top down."
And now Saban and the university's administration will have to deal with the ugly consequences of making such a thoroughly stupid decision.
You've also ignored the OTL on this matter which wasn't very flattering. There have been other instances as well...from Finebaum calling out Saban to the backlash he faced from multiple ESPN personalities over his issue with Maria Taylor earlier this year. But we don't focus on those for some reason.
You dont have to back up ESPN everytime someone says something bad about them.
Once again, I'm sorry if you can't understand the difference between "defending" ESPN and calling out selective reasoning and flawed logic. I have never once DEFENDED ESPN. ESPN sucks, at a lot of things. You see, it's entirely possible to think they suck, and still not buy into the bs that they hate OSU.
Criticism for ESPN is criticism for Sports Media,
In some cases this is likely true. However, this doesn't apply to those who talk of a concerted effort to destroy OSU and the B1G. It's one thing to use ESPN as the catch all for for the cesspool that has become of sports media..that's not really my issue though. The issue is when people actually believe it makes any sense, logically or financially, for ESPN to actively try and harm the OSU brand.