Yeah...  Okie v. Houston?  Auburn v. Oregon?

Woof.  On paper, and for the element of the former coach/player against his old team, I’d take OSU v. Cincy.

I live in Cincy.  TBH, I don’t know where people find these over-the-top UC fans.  Nobody I know has even mentioned the game.  I’d bet money that 99% of UC fans won’t even know it’s happening until the week of.  I’m pretty vocal about liking OSU; and I know several UC folks.

Sure, UC has fans.  But, by and large, none of them give a crap about the football team.  Basketball is their thing.

TL; DR, OSU fans care way, way, way more about this game than UC fans do.  Probably a grand total of 2 or 3 people in the UC fan base that even know it’s happening.

Yep.  Hold a high-profile camp, giving the kids an opportunity to take-in the experience and to make an impression on the staff.  Follow it up with a BBQ to give the close-knit, family feel, eat delicious food, and give them an opportunity to bond with each other -- which, TBH, kids seem to recruit kids as much as coaches do nowadays.

Makes good sense to me.

He also spoke very highly of Hartline.  Which, given the fact that Hartline now fills his old job, and given Smith's apparent ego complex to this day, is really saying something...

Agreed.  I mean, I definitely would categorize bringing-up someone's past criminal history (here, DJ's alleged participation in a robbery scheme) as shade. 

But, man, engaging with Smith is an absolutely terrible idea.  Dude has very little, if anything, to lose.  And it seems he has an unreasonably high opinion of himself still to this day.  That's a dangerous dancing partner.

If DJ were to come out and vehemently deny the allegations, okay.  If not, well...  no way he comes out looking good from starting this conversation.

All of that said, I've enjoyed Smith's podcast so far.  Some interesting stories, to be sure, and his comments and Warriner have provided some closure (if that's the right word...?) on the 2015 season.  And Smith seems to be giving his honest (albeit biased) takes on various topics.  Which is refreshing, since I was worried this was just a vehicle for him to grind his several axes... 

Yeah, mostly agreed.  Though I wouldn't be surprised if T Pryor was able to run in the high 4.3s/low 4.4s back in the day.  (I suppose I could check...)

Rugby 7s can pull off a touring model, but I have trouble getting attached to a team that's not based somewhere.

Yeah, that struck me as an odd -- not sure whether smart or dumb -- idea.  Just runs against pretty much everything that sports have always been in the USA.  And I'd likely have the same reaction as you.

Though, I guess, that's kind of how fans of international soccer are in the USA  They just pick one of 3-4 really, really good teams.  Maybe it'll be the same type of thing.

I mean, all of the incredible times in the past have been made-up and/or negligently timed.  So I don't care so much what the reported times are.

Based on his highlights, Fields doesn't really look like a 4.3 guy.  That's blazing fast.  But, hey, who knows.

With respect to who the fastest guys on the team likely are, DMC has to be a good bet.  Gill's probably up there, too, if the hype is accurate.  I suspect there are a couple of CBs.  I'd never bet against Hooker's brother.  

Slightly on topic: the Pardon My Take podcast had an interview today of a guy who former a new professional lacrosse league -- Premier Lacrosse League.  It was an interesting listen and a pretty cool idea for a professional sports league.  Basically, the founder is also a player, and the players all have some equity interest in the league.

Can't say I'm big on lacrosse.  But I might have to tune into a game or two.

It's so frustrating to me to see the same chorus of bullshit bad-faith questions asking why the victims didn't come forward sooner, etc whenever these stories come up around here..

Well put.  IMO, it's pretty bananas that people can't grasp why a victim might not want the sordid details of a literal rape disclosed to the general public.  It's really hard to put yourself in that position if you've never been in it.  But judging from my knowledge of the court system, the current state of public discourse, etc., I can't say I wouldn't do exactly what the victim did, here, as well.

Dude...  just because the University isn't releasing highly sensitive and personal information about an alleged rape doesn't mean it didn't investigate it.  The complaint was filed in September; he was let go in November.  I'm sure there was an investigation, hearing, etc. during those two months.

Do you honestly think that any of the parties involved here -- the victim, Snead, the University, etc. -- want to publicly release the sordid details of the alleged incident?  Hell no.  The mere fact that the factual findings aren't being released in no way means that they don't exist, nor does it mean there wasn't due process.  

Relatedly, also partially explains why someone wouldn't want to go to the police.  It then becomes a public matter.  The victim will repeatedly be involved in the process for months -- if not years.  And, in a county like Franklin County, nobody is indicting something like this if no charges are being pressed. 

Improved? Yes they did improve. But a lot of this improvement has to do with having a better throwing QB to get them the ball. I'm sure if OSU had a better throwing QB and ZS was still the WR coach, the receivers by default would look better as well.

I mean, maybe.  Haskins was a beast.  But watching the WRs under Smith's tenure, they struggled to do the most simple route-running concepts.  Like, things you should know in high school.

At the very least, it's debatable which played a bigger factor.  Meaning, contrary to your assertion, it most definitely is questionable whether Smith was actually good at developing talent.  Very in dispute, in fact.

His character is questionable obviously but not his ability to recruit or develop talent.

Disagree with that last part.  Michael Thomas was an elite talent who had immaturity issues.  He was always going to be very good if he figured that stuff out.  It seemed the rest of the WRs really hit plateaus in their development, often failing to do pretty simply and standard stuff.

Then Hartline took over.  And, overnight, the entire WR Corp. improved.  Coincidence?  Maybe.  Maybe not.

Smith could recruit, though.  That much is true.

Yeah...  I had a guy from Lexington try to convince me that OSU would lose to every SEC team, including UK.  And he actually believed it.  I couldn't convince him otherwise.

Though this was before 85 Yards Through the Heart of the South, I suppose.

Anybody who changes someone's name into something that rhymes (e.g., "Urban Liar," "Suckeyes," etc.) is an absolute moron.  Like...  chuckles in his mother's basement while thinking them up.  Judging from the fact that this guy's repping the Gators, I suspect he's worse than most.  So not really worth even giving him a thought.

Also, OSU swim gear?  Where would one purchase such a thing?

Knew a few guys from Texas that did the same thing.  Guy tried giving me crap when Texas beat OSU.  My response: "dude, aren't you a Texas A&M fan?"  His retort: "I'm a fan of all the Texas teams!"

Uh...  no.  Doesn't work that way.  Especially since they were both in the Big-12 at the time.

Which part? The top five part?

It's misleading because you're trying to use it as support for your point -- made later in your sentence -- that there's a large amount of BS lawsuits in the US.  That conclusion doesn't logically follow from that stat.

Excessive litigation is a thing, it's been on the rise for quite a while now, and predator-attorneys are a part of it.

I've seen several studies on this topic that have demonstrated this is false.  IIRC, litigation per capita hasn't ballooned -- or even changed -- in the US.  Sure, there are definitely BS lawsuits and unethical attorneys out there, but I believe the facts suggest the narrative you're proposing (i.e., that the US is becoming an overly litigious battleground of BS lawsuits) lacks support in reality. 

Agree with everything you say, BL.  I wouldn't file the suit.  I can't imagine any way it isn't time-barred.

The point, I assume, is that the US is one of the five (literally) most litigious countries on earth, and people regularly try to capitalize on lawsuits in which they have no business participating.

This statement is pretty misleading.  If you look at the top-10 list, it's basically common law jurisdictions with well developed economies.  The US isn't the anomaly this comment seems to insinuate it is (and I can guarantee I'm far more anti-plaintiff's attorney than the vast majority of 11Wers).  No. 1 is Germany.  Trust me, Germany's legal system isn't exactly in favor of frivolous litigation.

As to the rest, I fail to see the parallel between (1) people suing their coaches for being yelled at (for being overly sensitive I suppose?); and (2) people lying (not great) about being sexually assaulted (which, if true, is a very, very serious thing) by a doctor who specialized in treating young men and women.  

Can any of our resident Legal 11dubbers verify that I'm on the right path or off the reservation?

Lawyer here -- though one who does civil lit.  You're correct about the different burden of proof.  This isn't a criminal proceeding.  Nor have I seen anything about potential criminal charges.  

Posthumous convictions are a thing -- though not overly common  To address a prior commenter's statement, I believe murder is the only crime for which there is no statute of limitations in Ohio.  And though the statute for certain other crimes (e.g., sex-related ones) is long, I suspect it's still long since run.

All of that said, though I haven't reviewed the allegations in detail, I just don't see anyway this lawsuit is worth the paper it's printed on -- from a legal perspective.  The civil statutes of limitations are quite short for these kinds of things.  If it's the doctor's conduct, that happened a long time ago.  If it's a negligent hiring, negligent retention, etc. against the University, again, he's been gone for quite some time.  And it's hard to argue there would be any tolling rule that applies.

The suit probably is about creating bad PR for the school to generate some type of settlement.  While I wouldn't call something a "money grab" that relates to sexual assault in a trusted relationship, in a similar vein, it doesn't seem that there is much of a counterargument to the suit being time-barred.  So...  it is a bit questionable.

length of stride has nothing to do with speed

It definitely does.  Sure, there are other factors as well.  But, quite clearly, if stride frequency is the same between two people, yet one of those individual's legs cover twice the ground per stride, the taller person will be going a heck of a lot faster.

Interesting you would pick construction as a comparison.  I've known multiple people who are on disability and/or sustained life-altering injuries in that line of work.  And, like McD's, I don't think either of those jobs guarantee a higher salary than the AFL.  So I'm not sure the risk-reward balance is as clear as you think.

Also, delving deeper, the average AFL salary seems to be between $40-50K.  Not too bad; similar to the median salary of college graduates a few years out.

Plus, the AFL season only lasts 3-4 months, I believe.  He could work elsewhere -- even construction -- during the remainder of the year.  So if he makes $40-50K in the AFL, plus another...  $20-30K in another job (which wouldn't be a whole heck of a lot), that's $60-80K.  Given the fact that the median income in the USA is in the $30-40K range, that's not bad at all. 

Hilarious that OU bragged about it, then got called out for fraud.  I guess the moment wasn't as "historic" as the Dean thought.

That said, not trying to defend OU, but I thought it was now commonly believed that these rankings are pretty BS.  The employment stats have long been a joke aimed at splitting every hair possible to maximize the number.

I recall several law schools (like, significantly more than half) being embroiled in allegations, claims, lawsuits, etc. related to point-blank inflation of stats.  IIRC, the "average LSAT" reported by the law school, compared to the centralized application service that tracks that information for unrelated purposes, was about 4-5 points higher (which is a lot).  I suspect these dustups happened at law schools primarily because, you know, they spawn lawyers, and the same is happening elsewhere. 

And that assumes US News & WR doesn't have any direct financial incentive to name certain schools -- e.g., no proverbial greasing of palms.  I wouldn't be surprised if that assumption was untrue.

Thank God.  When I lived there, you couldn't buy alcohol on Sundays.  Period.  No cold/warm distinction.

That was going to be my biggest piece of advice -- by far -- when clicking on this thread.  I always felt bad for folks who showed up trying to buy a case on Crawfordsville Rd.  No luck on Sundays.

Rumor is that ESPN is paying him to say all this negative stuff about OSU.

And where do you think ESPN got the money?  Bagmen.  Bagmen from?  The S...  E... Ceeeeeee. 

ESECPN at it again!  Conspiracy proven; mind blown.