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Comment 09 Jul 2020

"too many on here don't want to face the facts and live in fear"

too few on here don't understand that "not being hospitalized" aka a mild case, does not mean that you have a case of the sniffles and move on. mild cases still end up with lung damage, organ damage, brain damage, and long term implications like viral induced chronic fatique.

you can go ahead and tell the million dollar draftees that your need to be an armchair quarterback is worth ending their draft possibilities when they can't run a 40 without wheezing, spend all day sleeping, are on dialysis, or can't remember plays due to brain damage. 

Comment 09 Jul 2020

It has nothing to do with fatalities. 

Even mild cases have noticeable lung damage, which may be long term, and in some, permanent. There is no benefit to pushing athletes to play just so their career can be cut short because they lose significant portions of their lung capacity. 

Then you have a rise in brain damage among the young who previously had COVID. In kids, this is likely to heal, but in young adults that is far less likely. Those with more severe cases, yet don't die, now live with brian damage, failed kidneys or other organs, and significantly reduced lung function. Again, athletes who may be worth millions of dollars, should not be risking their long term health just to throw the pigskin. 

In six months, we're likely to find additional long term effects and have an even better understanding of what's at stake here. In six years, we'll better understand just how significant this is on the human body. 

Comment 01 Jul 2020

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/chinese-study-antibodies-covid-19-patients-fade-quickly

"The study, which focused on 37 asymptomatic and 37 symptomatic patients, showed that more than 90% of both groups showed steep declines in levels of SARS-COV-2–specific immunoglobulin G (IgG) antibodies within 2 to 3 months after onset of infection, according to a report published yesterday in Nature Medicine. Further, 40% of the asymptomatic group tested negative for IgG antibodies 8 weeks after they were released from isolation."

Second, an additional chinese study found that:

"The authors conclude in their paper that the remaining 10 percent of infected patients with no detectable antibodies, combined with the lack of antibodies in healthcare workers, suggest that “after SARS-CoV-2 infection, people are unlikely to produce long-lasting protective antibodies against this virus.”"

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/studies-report-rapid-loss-of-covid-19-antibodies-67650

Third, an NIH study found that only 1% of people in their pool had "potent" antibodies. Most people in their pool had some antibodies, but often of low count or quality. This infers that either they have potent antibodies when truly sick, or just thereafter, and they quickly fade OR that they never create potent ones. Either way, that means trouble for long term herd immunity. 

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/potent-antibodies-found-people-recovered-covid-19

Comment 01 Jul 2020

This is NOT correct.

Hospitals are starting to see a rapid increase in patients and beds are filling, often with younger patients with more severe cases. They're running around with the ridiculous mindset that "i'm not at risk" and finding out that they most certainly are. Perhaps not of death, but certainly at risk for loss of taste, smell, reduced lung function, hallucinations, brain damage, and a host of other symptoms considered :"mild" next to near death. 

It is not a GOOD thing, because herd immunity is never going to happen with COVID. Current testing is showing antibodies last for 2-3 months, which is not long enough for any degree of her immunity. 

Some studies are starting to show that up to 50% of people who show symptoms are still experiencing them months later. They are testing negative for the virus, but symptoms are lingering for months and months. 

Comment 18 Jun 2020

Look at this guy over here who thinks a lasting impact is only within a 3 month window. 

Depends on what you think an athlete is. A number of marathoners and swimmers have reported months later that their lung capacity and function still hasn't returned. Some even citing they can't get up a flight of stairs without being winded.

Comment 18 Jun 2020

People also act like when someone gets it, it is like AIDS or Ebola or something. 

Spoiler Alert: COVID-19 is extremely similar to AIDS in makeup. 

That would equate to close to 200,000 deaths in today's poulation and there were NO quarantines or turning life upside down then,

We're already at 125k - not including excess deaths - and by the time all is done, will be well above 200k. You're looking at TOTAL numbers for Asian Flu and 3 months of COVID. Apples to coconuts. 

This virus has thus far been identified to cause 20% of fatalities to exhibit BRAIN DAMAGE. It's causing a rise in child immune issues. It's causing permanent kidney and liver damage in survivors. It's causing long term circulatory damage in survivors. And that's just 3 months in. By the time we get 3 years in, we are likely to find a host of significant long term implications. Even more by 7 years. 50% of SARS survivors have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. That is not a death sentence, but destroys your way of life. 

This is a sports forum, so keeping the focus on sports boils down to this: You're not just risking the spectators, you're risking the athletes. Guys who are at Ohio State to one day play in the pros and they may never get a chance because they forced a football season, got sick, and now live with 50% reduced lung function for the rest of their 20s, 30s, or beyond. 

Comment 31 May 2020

This is asinine. America wasn't founded on riots. Trying to equate the Boston Tea party, liberty "riots" or stamp act riots" to a true riot is absolutely laughable, especially in modern standards. The 60 men of the tea party (roughly) went out of their way to only damage the British goods (Tea) and not the ships. Nobody was severely injured and they even replaced a padlock they damaged. This wasn't even the final catalyzing act, as the British response (Coercive Acts) was the final straw that galvanized the colonists. Franklin was even an agent of the trading company that owned the tea thrown into the water.

Even trying to pick one off events, like the stamp act "riot" or 'liberty riots" where they ransacked a tea agents house further fall short of the goal. They were wildly disconnected from the revolution (pre-dating by years or decades). 

Totally comparable to this week, right? As small business owners are beaten unconcious for trying to protect their stores from looters, it's totally the same thing as the Boston Tea Party. Calling it a riot is needlessly pathetic. 

Your logic can easily be extended to "America was founded on the backs of slaves, so slavery is totally excused" or "America was founded by Men, so women have no place" or even "America was founded by parchment, so like it or not, we shouldn't use cell phones or computers." 

America was founded on rebellion and a quest for self determination - not riots or looting. 

Comment 21 May 2020

"Let all the players who are testing negative play."

The danger is the fact that you can be symptom free, and even test negative, but still be a spreader. There's a non-zero number of survivors who later test positive after weeks of negative tests. It leads to a belief that the virus can "hide" inside a person. This could lead to reinfecting the team even after being in the clear. 

It's just lawsuits amongst students. Imagine if a chase young or bosa or any other star got it under Ohio States watch, when the school is "in charge" of the players. Those lawsuits may be far dirtier as, at best, it may mean a lower draft position - at worst it may mean the athlete can never play again at a high level (or otherwise). 

Comment 21 May 2020

Most have never had it - the current testing is not accurate enough to determine if someone had the common cold or COVID19 and rife with false positives. 

Those that have had it, may be in for a life of pain. SARS survivors have an alarmingly high rate of CFS. Chronic fatigue is a terrible way to live. It would likely end athletes potential career. Starting to see early indications of spikes in Kawasaki's amongst kids post-COVID, which is really not fun either when the skin on your feet can just fall off now and then - or a host of other problems. But hey, it was a sweet college football game, right? 

Long term implications here are wildly unknown. The majority will likely be fine, but the minority may suffer greatly. 

Comment 20 May 2020
Ohio State has always had an incredible military history department. I was lucky enough to take the Vietnam war with lt. Col. John F. Guilmartin. Multiple tours in Vietnam as a helicopter para rescue pilot. Had to take it large lecture halls to fit his enormous brass balls. Unbelieve man.
Comment 13 May 2020

you don't need anyone to tell you what you need. you can be as smart or as foolish as you want to be. 

when you control hundreds of millions in budget and thousands of lives each year for schooling, you have to be prudent. one mistake means your job, a lot of childrens education, and possibly someone(s) life. 

Comment 13 May 2020

Navy, the hospital ship and the temporary field hospitals were barely utilized.  i know the hospital ship is gone and pretty sure the temporary field hospitals are already gone. 

Because they were brought in to treat overflow patients. Non-COVID that still need emergency care. They left because NO ONE was going to the emergency room that wasn't a COVID patient. They were all staying home. 

also, cuomo was screaming about ventilators for days and days, but in the end, started giving them to other states or not using most of the ones he had at all.  

Because in the early weeks the treatment protocol was to put people on vents. So they were trying to prepare to have every patient need a vent for 2 weeks or more. Later research believes this to have been a death sentence, and guidence was not to vent patients (or at minimum, not add pressure). This means fewer vents were needed, and could be shared with states that actually needed them. 

Comment 07 May 2020

The case fatality rate is actually 5.92 in the US right now, but many Euro countries are in the teens. 

You're looking for the IFR, which is believed to be around 0.5% at this point by a number of groups. This is an estimate and will likely to continue to go down as we maintain quarantines. If not, we could end up like NY. 

What you must not forget is the IFR for the flu is <0.04%. So currently, under quarantines, the IFR is 10x worse for COVID based on known data. Those numbers would certainly be significantly higher were it not for quarantines, and as a result are not directly comparable as the flu is allowed to travel freely.