Absolutely this^^^. You know it’s bad when you give Minnesota it’s first road win of the season. That can’t happen if you are OSU. The Holtmann gloss is starting to wear off. Too many unknowns with this team. As frustrating as it was at times watching Matta’s teams try and score the basketball, this season has been eyeball piercing at times, and against average (at best) competition. So at what point does the fan base do some self-examining and perhaps realize that this team has a lot to improve upon? The Wessons are missing their Smith’s if they want to be considered offensive weapons. They have folded from the moment over the last month. That is a very bad sign.
Agree that the offense is going to be amazing to watch. I don’t expect to win every game like they did in 2019. I also don’t expect the officiating (if OSU is fortunate enough to get back) to be as atrocious in the playoff as what we saw in the Fiesta Bowl. But you never really can tell. Every season is different. That’s why the defeat at the hands of the zebras, er, I mean the Tigers is going to stick around a long time. This was a generational team that OSU had in 2019. And when you lose as much on defense as they have, the domination is going to fall off. Even if it’s a marginal drop off, the sustainability to dominate every opponent is not realistic throughout a 12 game schedule. Some difficult road games next year also. I expect OSU wins all or maybe loses one game in the regular season. Who knows for sure? We can’t live in the past of 2019 but we also have to realize that seasons like this don’t always occur. I’ll probably never get over the notion that it should have been OSU-LSU for the championship. But onwards to 2020 and here’s hoping for another great season from the Bucks and another trip to the CFP. Maybe we will have a fully healthy quarterback who won’t be going up against four straight top 15 teams to end the year. But OTOH we don’t need Michigan to completely suck either. Perception is everything in college football. In the NFL, you win and advance. Nobody is really analyzing how it happened. College ball is too much of a fashion show for a team to not be dominant.
The same Utah who got hammered by Oregon in the PAC12 championship game? They clearly cashed it in after not going to the playoff. Although I do think they would have given LSU a much better game than Okie did. But we will never know. I also think that OSU would have scored 35 to 40 on LSU. But ifs and buts aren’t candy and nuts
games because the conf is just so tough - yep Mississippi St - Vandy - Tennessee - Ole cheatin Miss - KY jelly - all have been juggernauts lately.
you forgot the powerhouses Arkansas and Missouri also. That’s at least half of the SEC as being Australian sized dumpster fires. No offense to the fine Aussies, and I really hope it gets better over there. But I use the recent fires to highlight the metaphor of showing how highly overrated the SEC is.
Let’s put it to you this way. I spent zero minutes watching the CFP title game. Zero. Didn’t tune in one time on ESECPN. Only checked scores every half hour on my phone. It was a lovely experience. Highly recommend this system going forward unless OSU gets in the game.
Lawrence will only be remembered as looking like a girl and his team getting lit up against Burrow. Fair or not, he’s not the GOAT in college football. OSU didn’t lose the game because of the play by Browning. It didn’t help but it didn’t cost them the game. Failure to shut down Etienne and lack of execution in the red zone and egregious officiating is what cost OSU
In Clemons’ four all time bowl wins against OSU, three of the games were one score and two of those were extremely questionable officiating. 2016 was the outlier but the majority of the games were highly competitive. Personally I wouldn’t care if OSU ever played them again. Or I’m from the camp that I wish they would play them every year. Let’s beat the bastards a few times, and that might shut those assholes up. Or let’s get to the playoff and have them suck and never get back. Either way I’d be happy.
Agree with most of your points. And you reaffirmed what I was stating about the last three games in the Big Ten schedule. UCF, I believe, would have gone through the schedule that Clemson had in 2017 unscathed or, at the very worst, one loss. The eye test that many people like to take to task is what I went by that year. This year the eye test told me that OSU should have beaten Clemson. The eye test told me that the ACC was hot garbage and the conference computer rankings verify this. The AAC was ranked ahead of the ACC. It’s not Clemson’s fault that their conference sucks, but if the powers that be are holding that against the Pac12 then why does the shitty ACC get the benefit of the doubt? Because of douche Dabo?
Agree to disagree. Clemons’ schedule is terrible. Doesn’t mean that they are terrible but the system is broken. So which side of the fence are you on? Was OSU supposed to beat Clemson in the playoff? Because their schedule was weak? Or was it Day’s fault that the team lost in the single biggest game he’s had since becoming head coach? I’m willing to give Day the benefit of the doubt. But the OSU schedule to end the year is why they struggled against Clemson in the playoff. Clemson has never had to face a three game gauntlet like that in the ACC. Like Ever
Take comfort in knowing that if OSU was in the ACC, they would have beaten Clemons at some point. The law of averages dictates that. So maybe OSU should drop conference affiliation and play the Roid raging tigers every year. That could be a new rival. The traditional rivals don’t put up much of a fight. Unless you consider Purdue or Iowa as rivals, which historically, they are not.
UCF’s schedule that year was head and shoulders above anything that Clemons played this year. The ACC is complete dogshit and if it doesn’t turn around, it should be dropped from the P5
needed an outlet since I live in New England and nobody gives a s*it about college football.
yeah I hear you. Tell those idiots up there that nobody in Ohio cares about the NBA, or the Bruins in the NHL, or the MLB. So that leaves them with one team. The patriots. Congrats for them I guess. As far as the targeting I’ve watched games with my own two eyes where Bama players commit obvious targeting hits and not only are the plays not called for targeting, but there’s actually no flag even thrown. That’s the definition of biased officiating. It’s gotten so bad that it has turned off a generation of fans. So outside of the regular season, where we know that OSU should cruise, the CFP should be watched with suspicious intrigue when a team from the Big Ten or non-USC or Oregon Pac12 team is involved.
Someone to blame for OSU’s loss to Clemson is the replay official, number one. Secondly the officials on the field and then OSU’s offense at key points in the game. Clemson, themselves, gets zero credit from most knowledgeable football fans out there, because outside of one drive by the golden girl quarterback, their offense was dog shit
Yeah this trend of the last ten years or so of guys not announcing their next locations for a job is kind of lame, especially if it’s a guy leaving a NFL team for a college gig. I could definitely see a lateral college to college position. This could have a disruption with continuity and recruiting relationships. But the pros are the pros. Guys announce their intentions all of the time before a season comes to an end. At least that was the norm for forty or so years in the past. Maybe that’s changing too but I doubt it.
I’m with you, BuckeyePat. I’m tuning out this year. I pretty much tuned out last year also. Lately my interest in college football ends when OSU’s season ends. Never used to be that way for me, but I consider this the law of diminishing returns. They’ll get the southern eyeballs if that’s all the networks care about. But I’ll be glad to watch something else. Or better yet, play some board games with my wife and daughter. Connect 4 is a big hit in the house. Or I’ll read something. Even reading about the end of the planet as we know it with climate change is more refreshing than listening to dingleberry Fowler and Herbstreit.
I wouldn’t quite go as far to say that this was Clemons’ third best team. This may have been OSU’s best team in the last 25 years but this was by far, Clemons most explosive offense. And they still needed officials’ help to get to 29 points on OSU’s defense. While I agree that there are no guarantees in CFB, the best that you can hope for as a fan base is to get a shot in the playoffs. OSU made it there and should have won the game. That’s a much different feeling than what Buckeye nation was sensing after getting brutalized by Clemson in 2016. Night and Day. No pun intended. I think OSU is in a good place to return to the playoff but it takes a lot of things to make sure the games and the rankings are on the up and up. I think it would be refreshing to see the B1G, PAC-12 and Big XII bail on the current system and get the Mountain West to join up and have their own tournament at some point. Even if it means the SEC and ACC crying about it. To me, that would be all the more reason to do it.
Add to the fact that OSU’s most impactful players almost always leave school early, the well-documented reports from the FBI of Clemson juicing their players, and paying some of their players, and OSU’s seemingly annual turnstile of position coaches and coordinators and you have a mess on your hands. I agree whole-heartedly about the SEC/Clemson bias. I don’t know about the entire ACC but the southern teams in that conference sure seem to get the bang bang plays in their favor. Except when it’s Kentucky against Va Tech. I watched that bowl game and I shook my head. Every Imagineable holding or illegal man downfield was going against Va Tech. At the most inopportune times. Also the Tennessee- Indiana bowl game .IU was up by 13 with 8 minutes to go, yet there was a controversial no-call on a pass defended by Tennessee on an IU receiver for a critical third down that would have kept the drive going to perhaps essentially run out the clock but subsequently, IU is to punt, UT goes down the field WITH the help of some zebras on Ticky tack calls and they miraculously win the game. I can see why talented players leave early when they play for a pretty good team in a conference that he no respect or power from the overlords in college football. I would also take the old split NC system to this atrocity
And you realize that Google will one day be like trying to get actual news stories from Pravda or Fox News or MSNBC? The deterioration of net neutrality and the privatization of preferred network media links to big corporate interests will mean that you and I will be charged to view articles that may go against what the search engine’s goals are akin to. And people will not be happy about having to pay for accurate information. Or at the very least, I formation that might verify their thoughts in the echo chambers. But I digress. Google isn’t the end all be all.
If Ohio State had gotten even one or two calls from the Fiesta Bowl last Saturday, the Buckeyes are playing in New Orleans. Tell those fans on Twitter to eat a huge box of dix
Clemson fans don’t like any coach that doesn’t start a press conference with illiterate southern “English” and made-up words that make zero sense
I don’t see how Clemson owned OSU in any of the previous matchups except for 2016. The other three were all one score games. 2014 pissed me off and so did this one. I was too young for the Woody Hayes retirement game and 2016 the Buckeyes didn’t deserve to be there. Which is why we were screwed the last couple of times up until this year.
Victor made some huge catches for the Bucks. Best wishes to him and good luck
I thank the Lord that I don’t live in that backwoods area of suck Carolina. No offense to you, Northberg. I’m sure you have valid reasons for being there. But I would only be able to take so much of their fellating each other over nudes of Dabo, I’d want to run like hell outta there. Of course, they would need to beat LSU. And it’s not likely to happen.
I don’t think the ACC will do what it takes for its schools get better in football. It’s extremely expensive. Do you ever notice that Clemson has dominant football teams and, and, ahh, ummm... ahhh, yeah, ummm... football teams? That’s literally all they spend their money, time and ostarine on. Their other sports are Rutgers like and they are an embarrassment in basketball and lacrosse. Two sports in the heart of popularity as far as regionalization goes. Football is declining in the West and Northeast and, slightly in the mid Atlantic region. It’s B1G and SEC and Big XII for awhile
Everyone is different. And everyone has different goals. I was in the military in the mid to late 90s in Texas. Said I’d never set foot in that state again and outside a few trips to the Houston or DFW airport I haven’t returned. Florida is okay to visit but I’d never live in that strangling humidity and high temperature year round. I’m here in northern Ohio with my wife raising our daughter and we both have pretty decent paying jobs, and Lord willing, our mortgage will be paid off within 5 years. People bash Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania and upstate New York but I’d take these places (even in winter) over the arrogance and fake religious and sanctimonious hypocrites of the south any day. To each his/her own I guess