Ramzy, I happened to know both men, neither one well. I worked sort of indirectly for Woody as a student trainer in 1971 & 1972, and in my last three (or four, my memories of the early 70's are somewhat hazy) years, I was a supervisor in the intramural sports program, where the AD parked Fred Taylor to work out his contract after he was relieved as basketball coach. Woody was certainly cranky and demanding in practices and on game day, but he commanded respect and gave it in equal measure. He never said a harsh word to me, though he often told his players to get the hell away from that god damn water carrier and get their asses back to work. Knight I met twice, both times when he was visiting his old coach, and, on both occasions he was cordial and profanely funny. As time has gone on, my respect for Hayes has never wavered, but,like you, I think Knight is becoming a caricature of himself. Sad, for such a smart accomplished guy. As a side note, Coach Taylor was one of the all time great guys I ever knew. Funny, self-deprecating, and very fond of scratching his balls.