I don't think he has to leave, but in entering the portal, he's burned bridges with the team and his coaches. Hard to get trust back that you are 100% dedicated to your team when you take that step. It's not like you can't talk to players from other schools, etc. about their programs( like all your HS buddies that went to play for different programs) without entering the portal. These guys already know a lot about other programs, particularly when they typically were recruited and had official visits to so many. By entering the portal , you are inviting other coaches to recruit you , and so mentally, you've made the step out of your current program.
Do you all really believe that a HC tells a QB recruit he's guaranteed to start once QB#1 is gone? Or after a spring practice , in which the transfer in QB admits he is still learning the playbook, the HC , with three months of no practice ahead before fall camps starts, guarantees the starting ranking of the stable of QB's. One of whom he's seen in just the early spring practices?
I don't believe any HC for a big time program guarantees any player is going to start at any given point in time in the future. They might lay out what it takes and they believe the player can get there, but they have no idea how a player is going to deal with pressure or how well or fast they are going to develop. We still have freshman who haven't lost their black stripe yet, (Don't forget , as students they have that expectation of performance to meet in addition to playing)
Um, and you know this is Day's fault, how?
By the way, we currently have three QB's besides Fields. Vanatsky played in the spring game and is getting reps in practice per Day. The QB battle was being waged between 4 QB's, see https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2019/03/102862/ryan-day-on-quarterbacks-its-going-to-be-a-battle
Remember, Mike Yurcich is the QB coach, not Day. So if we are going to start screaming at coaches, need to include him.
I believe Vanatsky completed numerous passes in the waning moments of the spring game. I was impressed. But I thought Chugunov was our third string.
Yes, my point with him is more about program loyalty, and none of that matters, even when you get playing time.
The ease of transfers and the NCAA's new liberal policy of granting eligibility immediately for virtually any reason (which I will add, many posters on here were advocating) has shown the unintended consequences of programs having to deal with high level players leaving.
Lets not forget that Jalen Hurts left Alabama despite having played in the playoffs this past year and who was with the program as a starter until he was yanked out of the 2017 playoff game and replaced by Tua, who was turned into an instant hero. This is the new reality now that the rules have apparently been softened to the point of being unused.( Yes, I'm aware Hurts was a grad transfer, eligibility was never a question. But loyalty to a program is apparently not a thing anymore) As a poster said above, we might as well get used to it. Especially QB's are going to leave programs unless they are the assured starter.
Many fans who decried players not being able to transfer about in programs on a whim are going to see just how well this works now that they can. The days of supporting your favorite recruit when they commit and then sign with your favorite team is coming to an end. You have a 50/50% chance that player will leave within a year for somewhere else when they find they decide they don't like the program, coach, weather, other players, facilities, classes, restaurant scene, free athletic gear, cable service or what not.
The bright spot is that recruiting class rankings are becoming meaningless.
He was just looking off in the distance and didn't really say much of anything. It's one of those instinctive things that if you have ever tried to talk to someone whose high or stoned, you'll recognize it. Kind of robotic answers in which the person is not the least engaged in what you are saying.
Michigan's spring practice/scrimmage yesterday attracted maybe a few thousand. They had a recruit decommit yesterday afternoon, LOL.
But they are excited about the no huddle offense Gattis is installing.
For some reason , I can't seem to embed anything today.
Also, someone paid $$ to fly a banner over Michigan Stadium yesterday to tell Harbaugh it was ok to pass on 1st down.
Spring game was sold out according to officials at OSU. The construction on the upper decks reduced the seating capacity.
As a long time fan of Elliott, I am really wondering what is going on with him. Having helicopter parents during his youth may not have been in his best interest. I agree with the observation that he was stoned during his interview. He looks ridiculous, along with the bizarre nose piercings, and cartoon hair and beard. I give him a couple more years in the NFL and we are going to be reading about him at this rate which makes me very sad. My opinion and I hope he proves me very wrong.
I was surprised that BTN announcers gave no comment on Ted Ginn's hair, instead focusing on his sunglasses. Somebody spent a lot of time on his braids to come up with the block O design on the back. I thought it was pretty neat and got zero attention from the announcers, despite the camera crew focusing on it repeatedly.
I haven't been able to be on here much recently, so I don't know if this was posted in the past week or so, but to add to Michigan fan's misery, are the following.
1. Their spring "game" . It's a practice, with a very short scrimmage sometime late during the event. So people get to pay to watch a practice this weekend
2. Because it's a practice and not a game, BTN has declined to broadcast it. So the only way to watch this practice is to online stream.
3. Parking lots around the stadium will open at noon. The practice starts at 5pm. U/M has put out statements that there is to be no tailgating in the parking lots.
In five years, U/M and Harbaugh have managed to take a spring game, hype it to hell the first year, TV, band, music, etc. and then water it down , and create so much disinterest in it due to the team's performance and their lack of catering to fans that it is almost non existent. Long time U/M fans are pissed off and I'm between feeling some sympathy for them and laughing hysterically.
This is what is going on this week in the local area. Bank of Ann Arbor has half a dozen different billboards supporting MSU in the tournament. Glorious.
"But let’s be clear - there’s no pleasure to be found in Michigan State winning anything, let alone returning to the Final Four"
Well, I for one do find pleasure in Michigan State winning. Tell me you didn't rejoice when Michigan State beat Michigan when the punter was blocked and threw it right to a Spartan?
Why are you using the words "male victims"? Are you telling us that you believe Kraft was a "victim". Of what, soliciting prostitution from an Asian woman who was being forced to live in the massage parlor under threats of beatings and possibly death, and being forced to provide sexual services?
Who in the hell is the victim here?
People need to read more on why the FBI was conducting a sting operation at these massage places in Florida. These women were being brought in from foreign countries with promises of paying for school, a job, etc. then once they are here, being forced to live in closets, etc. at these places, being beaten and threatened constantly with either deportation or death if they don't bring in cash for extra services. Many of them were working 16 hour shifts, servicing many men over the course of a day.
Its part of the course that Kraft and others will be required to complete. It will show him exactly what happens to these young women , why they are there and how their lives are destroyed, resulting in many of them committing suicide. And how they are contributing to this misery by patronizing these places, putting money in the pockets of the owners and traffickers.
BS, apparently most of the posters on here didn't bother to read the rest of the article. As is noted above, the plea deal includes not just admitting publicly they were guilty of soliciting prostitution but they also have to pay a $5,000 fine per count( Kraft was charged with two counts) submit to a sexually transmitted disease screening, complete a course about prostitution, and perform 100 hours of community service.
Imagine Bob Kraft out along the road picking up trash, cleaning public bathrooms, working in a homeless shelter, etc. Yes, his wealth and privilege are carrying him far.
If he is convicted, that conviction will be on his record, he will likely serve some jail time and the rest of the above will either be included or possibly increased. The video tape evidence will be played in court and would be publicly released.
And I'm sure none of them are losing sleep over it. They did what they thought was in the best interest of this player from a health and welfare perspective, and from liability for OSU. Yes, smart doctors practice defensive medicine because our tort system has created that atmosphere.
Considering Dean's famous orthopedist, Andrews, is currently being sued by Sharrif Floyd of the Minnesota Vikings for $180 M because of the outcome of a knee surgery Andrews performed on him. you can see why many docs will be cautious.
Because as physicians, they treat the whole patient. They have a duty to the human being,,which supersedes their duty to OSU football.
Where did the photo appear? Someone's twitter account?
It will be posted on most other fan sites, with the requisite bagman comments. Which the guys in the photo know, and probably did this photo on purpose to get that kind of response. Why, I have zero idea.
Day needs to employ whatever Urban did to not allow these kinds of photos to created and posted. Urban would not have put up with any of this kind of stuff, and Day better shut it down fast.
Yep, scholarship players get a stipend to pay for any shortfall in housing and cost of living expenses.
But hey, cue the "pay the players" crowd....
"Some people have to be looking the other way when it happens 16 times in 11 years."
Really? Dantonio's players have been accused of sexual assault , not convicted. In 11 years, he has had appx. 1375 players involved in the football program. He has had .01% of his players accused of sexual assault. And their cases were reported to both the university and to Lansing police. And some were convicted and sentenced. And virtually all were removed from the team when the allegations were levied.
But hey, people are looking the other way.
Just like OSU and Columbus police did when JT's girlfriend accused him of domestic abuse.
ESPN has an agenda toward MSU because it gets clicks, just like their agenda against Urban got them.
I am of the attitude now that if a player indicates he is not going to play in a bowl game, then he is off the team and on his own. Until some coaches get tough on this, we will see more and more Karan Higdons. I mean it, no more training at the college facilities, no more tutoring until the last final is taken, etc.
I'm tired of babying these players and making their decisions sound so righteous, mature, and intelligent. They quit on their side of the deal they were offered and accepted. Fine, that's their choice, But it should have significant consequences. They don't need to be considered pariahs by fans, but they shouldn't be able to enjoy the travel, perks , etc of the team
Don't think this "me first" attitude DOESN"T spill over into the NFL. There are many examples on the field , and it is nurtured in colleges.
Highly recommend visiting the Ford Presidential Library in Grand Rapids ( U/M also has a Ford Library on it's campus , but that holds Fords documents, presidential papers, etc. ) Lots of interesting items at the Grand Rapids Library, including the gun Squeaky Fromm used to try to assassinate Ford, his football uniforms, etc. It is also the burial place for both Gerald and Betty Ford, overlooking the Grand River and the convention center, hotels, etc.
Mattison looks photoshopped, LOL. He looks like he cannot quite recognize himself.
A PR creation....
I guess he paid off his physician to attend one of his press conferences and explain about his arachnoid cyst.
LOL, this place is amazing sometimes.
You guys realize there are currently 24 assistant AD positions at Ohio State. It's a title given to someone who is in charge of a little corner of the AD , it's not directly behind Gene Smith waiting to take over the entire department. Its amazing to me that there are a lot of fans who still think Urban is going to take over the entire AD department within a year and Gene retire.
There is zero reason Urban can't spend some time on the road as an ANALYST, which is not a color commentator. The article doesn't say he is going to be calling games. He's going to end up at half time at some games sitting in the booth giving his opinion of what he sees on the field. I'm sure it will be an occasional cherry picked game. I'm also sure they are dying to have him analyze a Michigan game, which I highly doubt he will do.
That shouldn't remotely interfere with his agreed upon work with OSU. He's not the sole teacher of the leadership class, he's doing that in conjunction with the current assigned prof. There is nothing that has me believing he is 8-5 at OSU all day, his schedule can have him there part time.
The freak out on here is amusing.
So people accused the committee of being biased because the current makeup had football coaches on it from the SEC , etc. who were 'too close to the game".
Now we have people accusing the committee of getting away from the game because they placed someone on it who isn't a recent coach from the SEC.
Apparently, the committee should simply do what it thinks is right because they will be criticized from the peanut gallery no matter what they do.