The league is a case study in how NOT to handle a difficult situation. I don't understand what is so hard about sharing information they used to make their decision and standing by it.
We need six no votes to change to yes. Here's the breakdown of the school president's backgrounds and my guess as to whether they might change or not:
- Illinois: Agrarian researcher. Would be inclined to study the data in depth, so I'll say doubtful, but maybe.
- Indiana: IT and Logic expert, also vice chair of the health system. No
- Maryland: Engineer. Again, a very data-driven outlook, so like Illinois, doubtful, but maybe.
- TSUN: Medical doctor. Hell no.
- MSU: Infectious disease doctor. Super hell no, and may influence others toward "no" with his expertise.
- Minn: Lawyer and risk management expert. No, too much risk both in health and lawsuits.
- NW: Economist. Maybe, but probably no pressure to play football, so leaning no.
- PSU: Geologist. Maybe
- Purdue: Lawyer and politician (red state). Maybe
- Rutgers: Historian, but focused on post emancipation discrimination. May not have favorable view of primarily black athletes having to play during a pandemic for a primarily white audience. Maybe, leaning no, especially since no one cares about Rutgers football.
- Wisconsin: Economist, maybe.
So of the presidents who voted no, my guesswork above has 7 potential flips, but several would probably lean no, so I doubt the votes are there. Obviously this exercise does NOT take anything into account as far as public pressure, trustee pressure, fan pressure, economic pressure, changing COVID numbers etc., but I thought it would be interesting to look at how their background might influence their decision. PSU and Wiscy are probably most likely to flip because of their football tradition, but that leaves us well short. This is ALL speculation on my part - just educated guesses based on their careers/expertise; I have no sources indicating any of this is accurate.
Just a reminder that there are a lot of negative outcomes from COVID other than death. Those aren't reported in the stats. And the numbers for younger people are increasing. But I do agree with you about the vaccine - too much political pressure and money is likely going to yield an ineffective or potentially harmful result. Now back to football:
If the COVID numbers rapidly increase and other conferences have to cancel, the Big10 will look smart. If they have minor contained outbreaks and manage to play through it, well, at least they can say they erred on the side of caution.
All the conference needed to do was the same thing the PACwhatever did - explain its reasoning. And if you want to be a boss, then you also explain where the various numbers (infections per 100,000, state of testing, etc.) would need to be to resume play - and if those numbers vary by state, how that would affect any games there. For example, if Ohio State is supposed to play at Iowa and Iowa's numbers are above the threshold and Ohio's are below, does the game get flipped or cancelled?
That's it. That's all that needed to be done. Define the playing field and where the goal posts are.
This mysterious non-vote and further non comment are just making things worse and leading to all kinds of speculation. When there is an absence of information, rumors fill in the vacuum. And right now, there is a really really big vacuum.
OK, if $50 million is the cut we would lose playing outside the Big10, I say we start a GoFundMe to raise the money so we can play this year. We need 500,000 people to donate $100. Put me down for $100. (And I predict it will be fully funded in an hour).
Sounds like Pac10 is done too. We need Big12 to cancel (also meeting today) - this would put tremendous pressure on ACC and SEC to do the same. If everyone is in the same boat, it can't be used against us.
Love the detail in this article that illustrates the workouts and diet required to be a D1 athlete. Very insightful.
Yeah, you used to be able to make an elite living just recruiting Ohio, but now to be competitive, you have to recruit nationally. Ohio State has the luxury of now picking the players they want from Ohio (15-1 will help your odds) as well as bringing in national talent. Michigan is trying to bring in national talent, but can't do it at the same level, and now can't get the best Ohio players on a regular basis (1-15 will do that to you). Michigan isn't a rich recruiting ground, and they have in-state rival to fight with.
TLDR: Michigan sucks.
Eleven Warriors - please don't ever post a non Ohio State story again...Why? Just read the comments.
I was at the Purdue game when Kenny G came in for the comeback win! Will always remember that guy - great effort. Stadium had half emptied out and missed the great finish. Never leave a game early! I saw the comeback against LSU many years ago and the Purdue comeback because I stuck around when many others went home.
Thanks for the memories, Kenny G!
My freshman year was Earle's last year. I saw many of those games first hand. Then I had to suffer through Cooper's years. It was a dark, dark time for the football program, always struggling in the rivalry game and losing bowls. I can't imagine how fun it must be to be in school during this golden age of winning and more winning.
Why does the Michigan offensive coordinator have like a 40" TV? Maybe if he had a bigger screen he would have a better view of his team getting trucked by the Buckeyes. #timetoUpgrade #thatsnotablueprintitsasmudgeonthescreen #unplugyouroffensefortensecondsandplugitbackintoseeifthathelps
I'm trying to work from home and all these BOOMS! are proving distracting. A good problem to have!
If he wants to be a journalist, he has a lot to learn. The only sloppiness was from him, not from Jeff. He didn't do his homework and got owned by our star DB. Instead of doubling down and pretending he's asking tough questions, he should have admitted he didn't do enough homework on the player and asked a lousy question as a result. Hey, it happens. But now he's just made it worse.
Let an OSU alum with a journalism degree and almost 30 years of (non-sports) experience help you out with a better question:
Mr. Okudah - the NFL game is officiated differently than the college game. What adjustments, if any, do you think you'll have to make to your game to be successful at the next level?
Just admit when you screwed up. Everyone does it occasionally, and we all can relate. Admit it, apologize and move on.
It makes me very happy to hear about former players doing well after football. All the best, Mr. Rolle!
Sounds like Mr. Reeves is doing very well. Great job! Love to hear how former Buckeyes are doing.
Yeah, I bet all the Hawkeye fans looked at the schedule and went "oh crap..."
A little payback for the "Woodshed, Iowa" stuff would be nice. Maybe we can hang 80 on them.
Those poor DBs, having both Mariotti and Coombs barking at them. They should have taken it easy and just joined the Marines...
Make it official university policy to not play in games officiated by SEC officials. I will never understand that overturned scoop-and-score. Too much southern bias, I guess.
The stars -- other than maybe the fives --- really don't mean that much. Often, the evaluators have seen a few game clips at best. The sites often go by how many offers a kid has and who is interested, assuming those coaches have done their homework. That's why some unknown kid will suddenly shoot up to four stars after a couple of big programs offer. And to some degree, coaches do the same thing, as illustrated by the story. Once you get that first offer, others quickly follow, because some programs will throw out an offer to anyone their rivals offer assuming those coaches have seen some potential.
My nephew was a zero-star guy who started getting some mid-level DI offers. He suddenly became a two-star recruit and picked up some "copycat" offers without hearing practically anything from the coaches from those schools. The two-star rating came from who was offering, not some in-depth analysis by the recruiting services, who have far too many players to cover to look at everyone. (In case you are wondering, he took the Air Force offer and will be playing in a bowl game tonight.)
Why do I suddenly have a burning desire that Ohio State hires Sharrieff Shah away from Utah...
(Not going to happen, but the irony would be pretty hilarious)
Had a dream last night we won 51-8, and the 8 came when we were up 20+ and fumbled inside our 10. And I'm still mad we gave up 8 in my dream game. Hang on to the ball!
If we score 45, it won't matter that we give up 28 to PSU or that other team. But yeah, some things to work on for the next two weeks.
Rutgers needs to become a wishbone/option school like the service academies do. If you get a QB that can complete 4/9 passes per game, you have a chance to win...