I meant they were leading at one point when they had a TD pass to Robiske that he either just dropped or was called out of bounds, I cant remember, and then they had a blocked FG that led to LSU scoring a TD. OSU was in that game and was gaining confidence and after that sequence and then the roughing the punter, they kind of folded, but it was not the blowout everyone made it out to be... that was all I was saying.
That and after they intercepted the ball and then scored on the next play to make it 21-20, the offense came back out and systematically marched down the field to make it 28-20 as the 3rd qtr expired. It was that drive that the Ducks looked at each other and said, we can't stop this OH Counter Wham. I think that realization led to them playing with an urgency to score, knowing they needed to keep up and our defense took control. That Natty was so awesome. I love watching that game!
Sooo true. People pointed to that game after the Florida debacle to show how the B1G was inferior to the SEC, but almost everyone forgets that Ohio Stare was leading and had momentum. There was also a TD that was called back I believe and we settled for a FG. Shortly thereafter the sequence that you referenced happened and that is when you could see the team get wide eyed and start to think about what happened the season before. After that personal foul on the punt, OSU could not get off the field on 3rd down. I remember them just ramming Jacob Hester up the middle and we couldn't stop it...
It's crazy to me that the 2005 team lost twice because I still believe that, that was the best team Tressel ever had. 2002 had an unbelievable defense, but struggled on O. 2003 would have been in the discussion if Claurett plays that season and 2006 was right there, but the defense wasn't as good and there was the whole Florida beat down. Record not-withstanding, I contend that the 2005 team was the most complete team he ever had. Both losses came to top 5 teams (one was the champion) and either could have easily gone the other way. One of my all time favorite teams of the Tressel era.
He will play as much as a starter. Just because he isn't out there the first play of the game doesn't mean anything. He will get reps at DE and will slide down to DT in the rushman package. You are correct in that he is not technically a starter, but when it comes to snaps, he will get starter like minutes.
It might not be the best nickname, but it will make for an easy and catchy hashtag on twitter which serves its purpose of getting prospects involved and talking to one another. I like that they name their recruiting classes, it seems to create a better sense of unity and being a part of something bigger and seems to keep prospects engaged with OSU commits up until they sign.
If our running game is as good as it should be this year, this offense will be a juggernaut... Every team we play lines up to shut down our inside run game first and foremost. Everything we do is predicated on that, so if we are able to run between the tackles, that opens up the outside and really opens up the passing game. If Dobbins is as good as the hype and he indeed can produce on 10 touches a game and Weber has a h]Heisman finalist type season, that will mean out run game was explosive and that out offense was unstoppable. I am hoping the Weber will be like another Carlos Hyde who picks up 4-5 yards avg on first downs and keeps this offense on schedule. Our issue the past few years has been getting into 3rd and long with an under-developed passing game. If we can keep the offense in 2nd and 3rd and short by rushing the ball consistently well, it opens up the read-option, and the passing game and will make this team very tough to defend.
The kid isn't coming here to play for Beck. He may have been recruited by him, but the fact is that there have already been numerous high draft picks including a bunch of first rounders out of the tOSU secondary and we are very likely to produce 2 to 3 more this April. If I am a young, talented DB, I wouldn't be able to get to tOSU quickly enough. You play sparingly for a year, takeover as the starter, then get drafted and make millions. The path to the NFL is so clear based on recent success that I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a similiar (all be it smaller) haul next cycle.
I could see either Haskins or Burrow winning the job and then having a redzone package for JT like Meyer had when Tebow was a Frosh. One thing Barrett is undeniably awesome at is scoring in the redzone. I could also see him not winning the starting job, but coming in for a change of pace to run some read-option based scheme. Who knows... it is going to be really interesting to see what happens. I mean do you think he asked Meyer if he comes back that is guaranteed to start? It will be very strange if our record setting QB comes back for his Senior year and doesn't play because he gets beat out. It seems like a less than ideal situation.
I actually think Wilson is a better hire. He has had a lot of success at an OC and when at a place with comparable talent to tOSU in Oklahoma he produced 2 heisman QBs and set records on offense. I am ecstatic about Wilson and expect to see a much more compete and balanced offense come 2017. I also think he will stay longer whereas Chip would be out quickly.
To me Tennessee is like the scUM of the SEC. They act like they are always going to have a great year and have September championship syndrome, only to fade quickly by early November. They talk about how great their program is and act like anyone would be crazy to not want to go there. They have accomplished very little in recent memory, yet think they are a power in CFB. If you changed their colors to maize and blue, I would not know the difference other than the southern accent hahaha
I am trying to figure out what purpose this kid would have for even bringing this up? Are they trying to hype up scUM to make themselves feel better if they win? Do they know they are about to get their ass kicked and want to justify it by stating that scUM should be in the playoff?
This kind of thing just perplexes me... it seems that everyone as an opinion when it comes to Ohio State, no other team is talked about and analyzed more than we are and it seems that it is usually something negative being thrown our way... the amount of butthurt throughout the country towards our success is staggering, this kid is worried about a play that was deemed to be called correctly instead of worrying about a team that is about to embarrass him on a big stage.
The Game has been reviewed and re-hashed and it has been clearly stated that there was ONE single call that was missed and other than that, most of the game was called appropriately. Jim Harbaugh has successfully drawn attention from one of the great games in the rivalry and placed it on something that only losers and cry-babies use as an excuse.
If tOSU, scUM, PSU and Wisky all win, it doesnt matter what the rest of the conference does IMO... and as far as I am concerned, I don't really care what any other team does, all that matters for me is our Buckeyes bringing home the natty!
They were running quick slant routes with no one else on the field. That drill is 100% in favor of the WR. I think he looked fine as far as hip movement and lateral quickness. There were plenty of top DBs that got beat in that video and it is not a good indicator of how they would play in the context of a defensive scheme in relation to a game situation. You are more just looking for technique and quickness.
Neither McLaurin or Campbell were as highly touted or polished prospects like Grimes and Lindsay. Both of these kids play against the best of the best in High School and both look to be able to run crisp routes, which seems to be something we are missing in our current offense.
In Meyer's first few classes, he had a real tough time landing true WRs. Most of our WRs were converted Athletes or RBs playing WR. It is no coincidence that the top WRs in Urbans first few years were holdovers from the Tressel era... Michael Thomas and Devin Smith. Meyer has landed very few true WRs coming out of HS, he has also had an issue getting split end type as well, everyone we have recruited fits the slot/scat hybrid type mold and what we have seen is a major struggle in WR development and production. KJ Hill flashes every time he is in and will hopefully be featured in the Fiesta Bowl, because he is legit.
The good news to all of this? We have finally started landing true WRs in the past few classes, WRs who played the position in HS; WRs that aren't 5'11" or shorter! I think starting next season, we are going to see a transformation in the passing game and it will be a by-product of the WR talent that will be on the field.
Now, I know none of these guys are proven, but when I look at the prospective lineup, I get much more excited about Victor, Hill, Mack, Grimes and Lindsay then I do Clark, Campbell and Wilson. I think Paris Campbell is being misused and should be a HB. Dontre Wilson is what he is and is just a solid player that should get about 5-7 touches a game. I don't think James Clark is that good and Terry McLaurin hasn't really shown much one way or the other and the staff has f***ed up not getting Noah Brown involved, much the same way they did with Michael Thomas.
My hope is that with a true split end like Victor and guys like Mack and Grimes that are tall, fast and have the ball skills to take the top off of the defense, we will finally see some real production in the passing game. We also have 2 stud TEs waiting in the wings and it wouldn't hurt to run some more 2 TE sets to get more power running mixed in with those play-action plays over the middle.
Meyer has all the pieces he will ever need, including 4 stud QBs behind Barrett and a bevy of big, highly rated OL, so there is really no reason why the passing game should not take off starting next year. If it doesnt, I think it's a scheme issue and will probably never change.
The only other team capable of consistently doing that is the a**holes up north!
There is a reason why Warriner is unable to land head coaching jobs year after year despite being in the mix and really wanting his own gig...
The man is an Oline coach with a good feel for the run game, but I just dont see it in terms of having a good grasp on overall scheme in the current landscape of CFB. I know it is unlikely, but we would be better off with him on the sideline helping out with Oline coaching and adjustments in game and someone else in the booth calling plays. I think he is a fantastic Oline coach, but right now he is over-employed in his current role. JMO.
I heard whispers that Okudah has been "in" since the late summer. Word is Wade is going to sign, Okudah is just a matter of time and now Darnay Holmes is a very real possibility. There has been some speculation about whether or not this means that someone else is going to be out, but I think if you look at our secondary situation, there is plenty of room.
I have heard Riep is being recruited to play that cover safety role like Damon Webb. Isaiah Pryor is a safety or possibly a walk out LB. I know we havent heard this yet, but I would be shocked if Lattimore, Conley or Hooker return and I bet the coaching staff would be as well. All Coach Meyer has to do is show these kids how we are about to send almost an entire defensive backfield to the NFL 2 years in a row. I would have to think that Okudah, Wade and Holmes would be up to play from day one or at least compete and I have heard the Holmes is so good, that Meyer is selling him on playing 2 ways.
I think when you see how the staff is recruiting, it first appears that there isnt enough room, but the coaches are planning on guys leaving after 3 years. Meyer doesnt recruit players that need time to develop and not play until they are a 5th year senior. This has become a machine of recruit, play, get drafter and replace and kids are seeing that and will see it again this April. The amount of talent that will be put into The League during Meyer's time here will be staggering when all is said and done.
I hate that weather has become such an issue with this team, but I do believe that while weather does affect both teams, it is usually in the favor of the less talented team. It can neutralize a speed advantage, especially if it limits the passing game, and it usually "uglies" up the game and keeps it closer which will always be in favor of the underdog.
I believe this is why Meyer is so stubborn in wanting to run the ball, even when it isn't working. He wants to be able to impose his will on the ground to prepare the team for when the weather turns. When he was hired, people had this perception that he was a gun slinger, open it up type of coach, but he is much more conservative than people ever realize. He has done a good job of developing a power run game to adapt to playing in November in the B1G. Weather has affected this team, but only cost them one game and that was simply because we played right into MSUs hands. I think this is a valid argument, but not an excuse or reason to lose.
Haha i agree! Wisconsins DBs couldn't locate a ball to save their lives. That chuck and pray nonsense will be hilarious to watch when they play someone good. Wisky got outscored 31-3 in the 2nd half LMFAO... so much for that great defense
This is funny. The talent that is being brought in is unparalleled... Meyer has had some great classes so far, but nothing like this. With the QB prospects we have behind JT and all the other talent, I do not see a drop off anytime soon. Meyer has a bunch of pure WR's waiting in the wings for the first time and the OL recruiting is out of this world. There are only 2 areas he needs to sure up and that is DT and HB. Dobbins will be great, but we need one more HB. I really like when we have a bruiser and a speed guy for change of pace as it gives the defense a very hard time and allows Meyer to run inside zone and power concepts one minute and speed sweeps and options the next.
There may be evidence that this is true, but we all know that had nothing to do with losing to USC... That game was over before it began and Tressel knew it. We were overmatched in every phase of that game and the result was no fluke. Ohio State could have played that game 10 times and probably would have lost all 10.
I believe Browning will be on the field and making an impact from day 1. Just a monster LB prospect
Struggle is probably an overstatement, but Michigan did have more success passing against Lattimore and Conley then anyone has this year: Speight made some really good throws and his guys caught almost everything thrown their way.
On a side note... it's funny to me because Michigan employed the same quick, short passing game that we use and the main difference between their offense and ours on Saturday is that their guys caught the ball. We were not that far off from having a much better offensive performance on Saturday. If JT and his WRs can get their timing down, we could see a much better offense come Dec 31...