If the players like them, I like them. I definitely love the old school gray unis and nothing they can create could match those (though the 1980 throwbacks are pretty close).
But I don't get too worked up if the uniforms don't match my personal preference to a tee. If the players dig them, that works for me.
I think Holtmann said a couple of weeks go that he was hoping Musa would be full go by the time practice started.
I was taken aback by those comments at the time because he sure looked full go from the workout videos circulating on social media at the time.
I am not worried about Musa's health status at all. Towns is obviously a whole different story.
Great story on Duane. It was a little disappointing to hear that Musa isn't quite 100% healthy and Towns probably won't be ready by the end of November and who knows what he will look like when he is ready.
But I think this projected starting 5 (Walker-Washington-Sueing- Liddell- Young) is going to be pretty damn good. And I doubt anyone in the national media projects Duane and CJ to be one of the top backcourts in the country, but I really think people are sleeping on this duo. I expect both to have a really strong season.
Yeah, it's a damn shame we cannot even watch highlights of this beat down. I would spend decent money on even a grainy version on DVD of this game.
That was my favorite Buckeye basketball team ever. Although they fell short in the tourney, this game really showed how good they could be when everything clicked. Their home victory over a really good Purdue team that season was pretty awesome as well. And Diebler going nuts in Happy Valley, beating Florida by 18 on the road, going on a 50-15 run to end the first half against upset minded George Mason in the 2nd round, etc. Just an amazing squad and season. I wish there was a highlight video of that entire season. And I wish that Kentucky game could be wiped from my memory.
Got ya. Reasons why having Sotos being available this year as opposed to 2021-22 might make more sense:
1. Musa's injury. Though he could (and I hope) be 100% by November, still a little concerning he is not already. Though Musa is a much better fit at SF, he is an option to play at SG and played quite a few mins at that spot his Freshmen year.
2. Eugene Brown may not be ready to be part of the rotation this year. I have no idea if this is true, but historically non Top 50 rated recruits have a tough time getting consistent mins their first season in college basketball. I have to think it is even more difficult with the strange offseason.
3. Seth Towns injury. Though he is not a guard, he is a player that is very comfortable with the ball in his hands. It obviously sounds like with even best case scenario, Seth won't be a main part of the rotation at the beginning of the season.
4. Covid. I think in a normal season, having 3 reliable guards (none of which are injury prone) in CJ, Duane, and Abel, might be enough to feel comfortable. But say one of those 3 tests positive during the season. Then you are looking at likely missing a key guard for 2 weeks, likely 4-5 games.
As for 2021-22, I think you cross that bridge when you come to it. But as long as Duane returns, Duane/Meechie/Malaki is heck of a base trio to work with. Two true Freshmen and only one true PG in the group, but Meechie and Malaki are both highly rated and should be ready to contribute day 1 and those two and Duane are all comfortable with the ball in their hands. You are possibly adding in a 5th year senior and hopefully healthier Musa Jallow and as long as Eugene Brown does not transfer, he will have a year under his belt in the program. And you always have the transfer market next year if Holtmann is not comfortable with the returning guard situation.
'Once Washington, Walker, and Abel Porter graduate.'
Isn't Duane a junior? I realize
you never know season to season with college basketball, but I am pretty certain he has 2 years of eligibility and would be available in 2021-22, unless he transfers or leaves early to play professionally.
I will say this, although this news is a bit concerning, Holtmann is an all time sandbagger. I love the guy, but if I had to rate him on a scale of (1) Lou Holtz level playing down your own team and playing up all of your opponents to (10) Don King level hype man, I'd rate Holtmann at a 2.
So yeah, I am concerned, more so about Seth than Musa, but not alarmed. I think we all knew Towns might take some time. And Holtmann isn't the type to give a rosy outlook on most situations. I am still hopeful Seth can play some limited mins off the bench in Nov-Dec and can progress to 20-30 mins a game by January. Also hopeful that Musa will be full go by November 25th.
That's surprising and a bit puzzling about Musa. The Ohio State Hoops Twitter page had a recent collection of pics from practice. It sure as heck looked like Musa was fully participating in one of those photos.
Also they posted a video of Musa practicing. Both posts were from September 27th.
Thanks for the post. Very enjoyable podcast.
It's comments like this that make you realize why there were over 200 comments for Carton deciding to transfer and well under 100 for Branham verbally committing to be a Buckeye.
Both top 50 national recruits. Both news worthy, yet people love responding to the negative news. They even like to sprinkle some negative comments on a thread that should have none.
I agree 100%. Even though it is nearly impossible to project a college basketball more than one year in advance, I love seeing the in-state kids commit to osu and my mind immediately goes to those loaded Matta teams between 2009-2013 as well.
Though Matta lost a couple of in state players to the transfer market (JD Weatherspoon, Jordan Sibert, etc), the retention and performance level of in state players overall crushed the out of state group. Even when the program was on a downslide, Jae'Sean Tate seemed to be the only consistent positive in Matta's final two seasons. Though I suppose Marc Loving (also in-state) probably brings up the worst memories in those last couple of years. You can't win em all. Ha, ha.
Huge commitment! Malaki and Meechie have the potential to be an incredible duo at osu.
Yeah, I would think with Meechie's inevitable large jump in the ratings and if they land Malaki, the Bucks would most likely be guaranteed a Top 15-20 recruiting class regardless of where Etzler is ranked and if and who they land as the 4th player.
If a high rated big man joins the group, I would think they would be Top 5-10.
Your point remains the same, but Snow actually has a confidence of 9. The other five analysts all have either a 7 or 8 confidence for osu.
So things are looking good. Knock on wood.
Great stuff, Colin. I watched some of Meechie yesterday. Good Lord, he looks unbelievable. Almost laughable looking at his rankings right now (approx Top 100). My wish list:
1. Malaki Branham becomes a Buckeye in two days. Obviously, we all want that. It would be huge for the program especially after taking a hit losing a couple of high profile transfers the last few months.
2. Meechie ignores any potential interest from blue bloods and stays with the Buckeyes for two years before leaving to be a pro. Not sure if he will end up Top 10-15 like he is hoping, but I could see him skyrocketing to at least Top 50. Hopefully if Duke, UNC, etc, start showing interest, he says 'thanks, but no thanks.' And if he could stay 2 years, it would set up nicely for my next wish list player.
3. Offer and sign Sean Jones. Love this kid's game. I have not watched in person yet (though some friends and relatives have and rave about him), but I hope to attend one or two Gahanna games this year if fans are allowed at that point. Reminds me a little of Trey Burke at this stage in his career: great floor general that plays with a chip on his shoulder. If Meechie stays two years, Jones could step in as a starter Sophomore year. I know it is impossible to predict college basketball rosters more than a year out, but this is a wish list.
4. Offer and sign Josiah Harris. Don't know much about this kid other than what I read here and on some message boards. But seems like a humble, hard working kid with the body frame/great wingspan of Keita Bates-Diop. I'm all in.
I would definitely be interested as well, Colin.
On a side note, I hope that Dubs is alright. He usually drives this thread and I have not seen him on here for about 3 weeks.
Last year, the Buckeyes were 5th overall in rebounding margin (+5.4) in the Big 10 and had the #1 defensive rebounding team in the league.
Changes for next year: replacing a 6'1" and a 6'3" guard with a 6'3" (Porter) and a 6'5" guard/forward (Jallow). They are replacing a 6'6" wing with a 6'7" (Towns) and 6'6" (Sueing) wing.
Kaleb Wesson (6'9") is being replaced with likely more mins from EJ Liddell (6'10.5 wingspan) and a combo of Zed Key (6'8" with a decent wingspan) and 6'10" (Diallo).
Will anyone top the 9 plus rebounds a game from Kaleb? Probably not. But the improved size and length at the guard and wing positions should help offset that as well as Liddell's likely improved rebounding (you could tell he finally adjusted to the physicality of the Big 10 by his last 6-7 games).
Will they be top 5 in rebounding margin in the Big 10? I don't know. But I don't think Holtmann has to completely overhaul his style of play.
I always thought the 'turnover prone' tag for Duane was overblown. He only had 5 games last year when he had 3 or more turnovers and 4 was his high. He averaged 1.3 turnovers per game and his rate did not drastically jump when he took over back-up PG duties.
I think he always be a 'score first' guard but I think his playmaking and passing skills could use more improvement than limiting his turnovers.
Wessons no longer playing in the TBT.
That is how I felt going in last summer's tourney, but they proved me wrong. It's not like Sully isn't talented and likely the best player on the roster, but they honestly seemed to generally play better without him.
Their whole offense seemed to revolve around feeding him in the post and playing off that. It worked relatively well, but it definitely got stagnant at times and relied too much on one player.
They seemed to have a better flow on offense last summer and they were able to spread teams out a little bit more. And although gives up a ton of size and skill at the center spot, he does have much more mobility and versatility on the defensive end than Sully.
And props to Sully, he did a hell of a job coaching last summer.
Potter was not starting with Kaleb Wesson here. Yes, he will start next year for Wisky and would likely start on next season's osu roster. But if he stayed, he would be out of eligibility.
Was Gaffney looking at major playing time? The kid will always have a ton of a potential. But based on what I saw last year, he was far from a lock to get regular mins off the bench this upcoming season.
I don't think I agree with that statement for this year's team.
They will have two college graduates (Porter and Towns) on the team. Porter's wife is due to have their child in a couple of months, CJ Walker already has a kid he is helping raise. Kyle Young dealt with homesickness, partially due to the sudden death of his father in high school. Justice Sueing's family lives in Hawaii, Ibrahima Diallo's family lives in Senegal. Musa Jallow has battled thru a major injury that forced him to sit out a season. Seth Towns sat out two seasons due to injury.
I don't know these kids personally, so I have no idea how mature they are. But this is an old basketball team that has dealt with quite a bit of adversity and responsibility, without mentioning how the virus disrupted their lives.
Trey Burke added to the roster. Huge addition. My guess is they go with a two PG starting lineup:
Bench: PG McCamey, SG Diebler, SG Lenzelle Smith, PF Ravenal, C Lauderdale
Buckeyes aren't in the Gavitt Games this year. Match-ups have already been announced.