I think we’re off the rails already. I’ve seen McMurphy called more names than I can count. Historically, that would get you down voted faster than anything. We’re not quite to Facebook levels, but there’s no doubt been a serious drop in comment quality. It’s kind of an echo chamber for unintelligent rambling and ignorance. So, basically, we’ve caught up with the rest of the population.
If you owned a company and your best employee was all over the news as an alleged criminal, would you not cover your ass? Or just go all in with an advertising campaign? “Here at Gmac44135, we employ *murderers”.
Yea, maybe it’s a knee jerk reaction, but you can’t take the PR hit by not suspending pending investigation. There’s exceptions to everything, but generally speaking, people who do the right thing don’t get accused (falsely or not) of these things. Sort of like nothing good happening after 10:00 PM.
Chris Hardwick was recently cleared of abuse allegations. He probably knew his ex was trouble and he would’ve been better off to get away from her sooner. Maybe (definitely) the social climate has swung too far in that direction, but that’s kinda how a correction happens.
If you’d like to read that again, I compared the fan base reaction to allegations against a coach. I could compare the actual events to what happened at Baylor, albeit on a lesser scale. But I didn’t.
Coach is accused. Fan base refuses to believe coach could’ve done something wrong. Seems similar to Penn State when you put it that way, right?
Good thing they’re not the ones doing the internal investigation then, huh?
It’s a fine line between arguing against premature firing and blind support. Administrative leave is that fine line. In my opinion, there’s a lot of people taking one side or the other. Perception is reality. Speaking objectively, the OSU fan base looks like it’s blindly supporting Urban. Right or wrong, I don’t see many defending Urban who don’t have OSU ties. Probably because the sensible ones who err that way know better than to publicly support him without knowing everything.
You’re on the wrong side of the facts here, and the “fake news” makes you look unintelligent. Urban’s statement said as much. “I apologize for the way I handled those questions”. His denial was fuel to the fire once it was logical to assume he knew of the 2015 allegations. Simple.
The media is overzealous and Urban admitted to lying at a press conference. But sure, let’s throw stones at the media. I think it’s pretty early to sling mud in any direction. The blind support from this fan base is a bit disgusting to me. The same fan base that still blasts Penn State fans for their blind support of Paterno. Just say less. Let this play out rather than put yourself on the wrong side in hindsight.
Exactly this. Such an avoidable mess. It would even be fair to say “We’re continuing to look into it. Once we’ve done that, I’ll address the media”.
Disagree wholeheartedly. It matters what a public figure says publicly. His statement acknowledges such.
Don’t look at it as lying to the media. It’s lying publicly. The media is just the outlet of the information. You can’t lie to the world and get caught in it. It’s a matter of dishonesty/morality. If it ends up that he lied in that quote, he has problems. He could walk that comment back and apologize for that with some explanation. “I didn’t know how much I was allowed to say, I shouldn’t have commented on it” would be one such instance.
You can call me whatever names you choose, but if this news broke about Nick Saban instead of Urban Meyer, you wouldn’t be defending him.
Everyone blasting McMurphy. You are part of the problem. Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and admit you don’t like what you see. At the very least, there’s more here than previously admitted. 7 years later and the cover-up is still worse than the crime.
If it’s none of their business, tell them it’s none of their business. Not a lie.
I don’t see how it plays out any other way. Maybe the exception of Shelley falling on the sword. Her saying she never told Urban is pretty much the only proof you could have that he didn’t lie at the presser. That’s really what this is. At best, it’s a botched press conference that could lead to firing a Hall of Fame coach. At worst, he ignored DV until it became public knowledge.
I don’t think Bieber has an extremely bright future, so I wouldn’t hesitate to move him. There’d have to be a little more in it for the Indians, though. Harper and a lower level prospect with untapped upside. Harper is just as much a psychological upgrade as he is a performance upgrade. Getting him in that lineup gets the guys fired up, and fixes a hole in the batting order. Don’t get crazy, but go after him.
The National Championship already did that.
115 pitches to record 9 outs and allow 14 runs. That’s spectacular. Almost unbelievable.
Yes and no. There’s an argument to be made for recruiting location bias. Urban isn’t scouting kids from Nowhere, Ohio. These kids get missed in recruiting all the time. You need some sort of stage to get discovered. It’s not like these schools play a national schedule. There might be more talent in Georgia or there might just be a bias towards southern states. There’s no way to know for sure.
I think this can be a circular argument. A lot of times, recruiting rankings are influenced by an offer list. How often does a 3-star jump to 4 or 5 after receiving numerous big offers? If Ohio State offers, others follow suit. Basically, attention from Ohio State boosts a recruit’s profile and gains him more evaluation. That’s not to disprove or support any argument, just something I’ve noticed.
I thought overly detailed, rambling automotive posts were my thing?
Obviously I wasn’t there and don’t know the details. I feel like two felonies is a little harsh here. Maybe a disorderly conduct and public intoxication might fit better. I don’t know. Maybe that’s just me.
Not a Cavs fan here. The roster isn’t as bad as it’s made to be. Get a real coach. Someone who is more than an ego manager. Keep everyone and hope you hit on the draft pick. Hood, Nance, Clarkson still have room to grow. If you can shed JR, great. Quality coaching gives you a shot. Get Kevin Love in a role he can succeed in. Find some structure.
The team is good enough to win with a good coach. Not a Cavs fan, but comparing Houston and Cleveland’s rosters, there’s more depth and just as much talent in Cleveland. Would Lebron comply to a real coach, though? GS is super talented, but Kerr is a basketball mind. That’s what puts them over the top.
Quote contest or caption contest?
I feel bad for the starters. Tito leaves them in as long as possible, and I can’t blame him. They get a runner or two on so they call to the pen. The reliever promptly allows all runners to score. Starter gets 2-3 runs padded onto his ERA. The starters have been incredible, and they all have a pretty good to exceptional ERA. Imagine if you take off the runs the bullpen is escorting home. We’d be talking about 4 starters with a sub 2.50 ERA.