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Comment 15 Aug 2017

If this is in reference to Grant Perry, the incident in question happened last year.  He was suspended the final 2 games of last season and the bowl game.  He also was not allowed to workout with the team or be involved in spring practice until the East Lansing courts finalized his case.  Once it was finalized, he essentially was allowed back with what was considered time already served.  So in total, that is a 3 game suspension, and 7-8 month suspension away from the team.  I'll leave it up to everyone's opinion as to whether or not that is considered a wrist slap, but it isn't as if nothing was done.  

Also, please nobody take this as condoning of Perry's behavior.  It is just meant to give actual clarity on what punishment was actually given by the football team.

Comment 11 Aug 2017

See my comment on the injury above.

As for ratings, what I mean is Arnette is greater than an injured Dean.  You take the healthy kid over the injured one.  Also, the end of Arnette's recruitment was pretty hotly contested if I remember correctly.  He got a lot of interest in the end.

Also, my wife agrees with you that I'm full of BS, but I don't think she sees anything good about it.

Comment 11 Aug 2017

On Saturday, Malzahn said Dean's injury was not to the same knee he injured in high school. Link

Dean's injury from last year was not the knee that he injured twice in high school.  So it doesn't really substantiate what was done at tOSU.  

The other point is that the tOSU coaches, by their actions to recruit Arnette, had a plan they knew doctors might not let Dean play.  They should have told Dean before he got to campus that could happen.  He then could have decided on his own if he wanted to take that risk of losing a year for transferring.  Instead, they wanted to take a look at his knee and decide for themselves.  They took the decision away from him.  Also, if you are going to medical someone off the team, you have to give them a scholarship.  That isn't really out of the kindness of their heart or some noble thing, it is required by the rules, and a small price to pay to take a look at the knee with a low risk consequence if he doesn't end up on the team.

Also, this isn't an indictment of the doctors, they are called medical opinions for a reason.  It is more the fact that the coaching staff should have raised the chance he could get medicalled before he got to campus so he could have weighed the decision to decommit and not lose a year to transfer.  The coaches obviously new it was an option since they were lining up plan B, they just didn't tell Dean.

Comment 11 Aug 2017

While I'll admit that this incident didn't look great, the early reactions are worse than what it really was.  Swenson was asked to camp at Michigan so the coaches could work him out in person because they hadn't met him.  He declined the invitation.  He was then directly told they would instead evaluate his game tape as his season progressed.  From there, knowing the coaches were evaluating him, he put in a lackluster effort on the season.  Swenson was encouraged by the Michigan coaches to Look at other schools and use all of his official visits in November.  The coaches had reduced their contact with him and cancelled his official visit to Michigan.  Swenson essentially burried his head in the sand and pushed forward, probably thinking there was no way they would pull his scholarship.  Well, they did, and he was pissed so he lashed out publicly.  His high school coach even stated there were signs earlier it was headed this direction. Also, after all of this, Harbaugh admitted to making mistakes in this recruitment and stated that corrections would be made.  Now Michigan is clear that even when you commit, it is conditional on your performance.  No coasting your senior year.

On the other side, I can't remember his name, but I think it was the same year, tOSU oversigned and took a CB late (Arnette), because they let a kid early enroll, looked at his knee and decided they didn't want to roll the dice.  They attempted to medical the kid they early enrolled. I think it was Dean.  The kid got a second opinion from an expert that said he could still play.  So he left, but not after losing a year because he had to sit out for transferring.  In my opinion, tOSU coaches got the higher rated recruit late, so it put them in a position to push out a kid that was more of a gamble because of an injury, so they did.  To me that is more egregious.

Either way, the process is stacked against the recruits mostly.  It would be nice to see them get some protections.

Comment 11 Aug 2017

The staff could have been sending their message before the Florida offer.  The tweets could have been a call for attention if the tOSU staff reduced there contact.  When they didn't respond, it was time to move on.

Your statement is fair though, there are stronger tOSU examples and Chatfield's situation may not have been one.  

I agree that both programs do it too.

Comment 11 Aug 2017

I'm sorry, but that is just to save face.  It was written that the coaches took the approach of "whatever" with him.  You don't think they didn't call less and stay in touch with him less?  The coaching staff sent the message to him that he was no longer a priority.  They didn't care which way his recruitment went.  If you really want somebody you show interest.  Chatfield essentially was pushed out with messaging. The staff essentially told him they didn't care if he was a member.  I guarantee you, if they wanted to keep him, he still would be committed.

Comment 07 Aug 2017

I thought it was weird too.  My personal opinion is that sometimes when this happens, the coaches have convinced the recruit to open it back up.  Parsons, Smith, and Oweh are all higher on the board, and probably 2 of them are locks.  Better for Chatfield to move on now.

Comment 29 Jul 2017

From the Michigan side, I'm not really sure what is going on with his recruitment.  Michigan has offered, but doesn't seem to be pushing hard for him and he doesn't seem all that interested in them.  Kind of seems like both parties have already decided to go in different directions.  It is reminding me a lot of Simmons recruitment, only Dobbs is a lot more highly regarded recruit.  Strange.

Comment 28 Jul 2017

I live in the Houston area now and have been told by connected people it is one of the referenced two.  The other one that has a lot of credibility behind it is Minnesota.  To me, Urban is advertising for Schiano and attempting to help him land a better gig with more money next year.

Comment 20 Jul 2017

Andrew, I'm curious about your take on Gervin.  It has been pretty well documented that Michigan and MSU aren't pursuing him.  Given that he is a 4 star corner, that is pretty interesting that neither of the two big in-state schools are chasing him.  The reason most have come up with is that he is shorter than what both schools like for their corners.  Do you have any thoughts?  Is he good enough that his lack of height should be overlooked?

Comment 20 May 2017

DJ, you missed the boat on Harbaugh's football factory comment.  It wasn't about academics .  What the comment was about was the new NCAA rules and schools like LSU using them to limit competition for recruits in there area.  This directly limits high school kids opportunities to be seen and earn scholarship offers.  Since colleges and the southern football factories will be using the rules to protect their turf, high school kids will need to spend their own money to increase their opportunities instead of coaches being able to come see them. It hurts the kids at the end of the day.

Comment 15 Apr 2017

You are correct, it is only for off positions, they still can be hired for direct coaching positions.  This is why Johnson went to Oregon instead of Michigan per Harbaugh's networking/recommendation.  Michigan intended to hire him in an off position with the expectation he would be the new 10th coach when that position was added.  Once this second rule barring that type of hiring was added, Harbaugh reached out to Willie Taggart to recommend that he be considered for one of their open coaching positions.  Taggart looked at his resume and offered him the WR coaching position at Oregon.  The guy has a legitimate coaching resume that justifies being hired as a college positional coach, so I'm sure it isn't all about his kid.  Probably gets him noticed, but I don't think Harbaugh makes that recommendation to a competitor if he didn't think the guy could actually coach.

Comment 09 Mar 2017

Haha, yeah, I was on a little bit of commenting auto pilot.  I would think tOSU will throw their hats in the ring and Urban will kick the tires to see if there is interest, but I am a Michigan fan that comments here every so often to add to the conversation and try not to hide that.

Comment 09 Mar 2017

Michigan fans have known about this kid for a while.  Harbaugh and crew discovered him during their Australian satellite camp and if I remembered correctly, he very quickly earned an offer, which was his first, and seems to be what put him on the path to IMG.  I'm absolutely hoping this early relationship helps Michigan, because based on early returns from IMG, the competition for his signature is going to be fierce.

Comment 22 Feb 2017

It would be interesting to see how that could be bent though.  If you put it at 25 new scholarships, which would include HS recruits, transfers, greyshirts.  Essentially whoever gets a scholarship that didn't have one before, I'm not sure how it could be gamed, but I don't doubt the ingenuity of college coaches to find a way.  In theory though, this type of approach would create less of a reason for programs to push kids out, meaning most transfers would be more likely based on the player's own decision.  You also end up with around 100 scholarship athletes on the team, so that helps depth.  Anybody out there see any downsides to this approach or where it wouldn't benefit student athletes?

Comment 20 Feb 2017

Or you could stay a little closer to home and say they don't want another Danny Clark or Todd Sibley situation. ;)

Honestly, they should just do away with the total scholarship cap and instead cap the new scholarships you can give out each year.  Something like 25 maybe.  That way you eliminate all the games colleges play to get the number right.  That is my opinion at least.

Comment 15 Jan 2017

So far nothing official with regards to Wheatley.  The jags are one of a couple opportunities he is weighing.  His two year contract was up a couple days ago, so he is in the renegotiating phase right now.  I guess we will find out soon if he is actually leaving or if this is just his agent working to get more money out of Michigan.  I hope he stays.

Comment 14 Jan 2017

Hate to lose a kid, but it was his choice to go 

I'm pretty positive that based on the timeline on how things went down and the limited spaces in the class that Simmon's was forced out.  If I remember correctly, 11W staffers subtly hinted as much as well, but it was labeled a mutual parting of ways and not so much being pushed out.  At the end of the day, the kid was all Buckeye, even down to a strong level of hate for Michigan, so kind of fitting to land at another rival.  In the end, tOSU ended up upgrading to higher rates linebackers and Simmons will still get to go to a decent DI program where he should develop nicely.  Worked out ok for everyone in my opinion.

Comment 29 Nov 2016

I agree that it was a bad loss, but if you look at it now, it is a 1 point loss on a last second play to a top 25 team ( AP 22 and Coaches 25).  I think that is the perspective the committee must be taking.  The view is Michigan is literally 10 seconds or so of regulation time from being undefeated.

I don't think Michigan gets in though because I think Wisconsin or Penn State will jump them.  I will say though, a 4 team playoff of Bama, tOSU, Clemson, and Michigan is a Monetary/Ratings dream scenario for the NCAA.  If it lands on that 4, that probably plays a role, especially since they are a defendable number 4 with 2 losses based on quality wins and quality losses.  I still don't see this playing out that way though.

The  results really have positioned the B1G really well to get two teams in though.  Would you ever have imagined a scenario before today where the B1G would get two teams into the CFP and neither was the B1G champion?  I wouldn't have.  I also think it still doesn't happen, but I guess it is more real than I would have ever said it could be.

Comment 29 Nov 2016

Ole Buckeye,

Following back up to let you know I've seen confirmation that one of the referees was John Wiercinski, and he is from Michigan.  His Facebook has a picture of him reffing a Michigan vs. Northwestern game, but he is supposedly a Spartan fan.  Link to where I first saw the information.  Anyway, just following up since I came across the information.

Comment 29 Nov 2016

Ole,

I haven't seen the rumor that the referee that spotted the ball was from Michigan, but it could be true.  I wasn't able to find it with a google search either.  If the B1G isn't worrying about conflicts of interest then it makes sense it could go both ways and a Michigan fan could make it on the crew.  If you see something in an article, feel free to reply with a link and I'll read it.

I appreciate your thoughts on the penalties.  The refs made the calls that they did for whatever reason.  I wasn't trying to make any judgement on their calls.  I just find it interesting that the B1G changed its COI policies to open themselves up to scrutiny in this type of scenario.  There is some speculation that they had to because the pool of qualified referees has gotten smaller so they no longer can field enough refs to accommodate COI situations.  

I'm going to go ahead and sign off on this topic now though.  I actually was done, but since you had a well thought out good response, I wanted to reply out of respect for your time and as an appreciation for good conversation.  If we don't cross paths on here again before the holidays, I hope you have a great season with friends and family and a happy new year.