I assume if Leary were to commit that Stellato would be out of the class but the staff would continue pushing for Egbuka?
There aren't even composite rankings up yet for 2022. May want to give it till about 6 months from now to even have an early feel for what OH may look like and even then it will still be early.
That is not the rule of thumb at all. It's worth mentioning but we go by the composite because if not, everyone will pick and choose the best ranking for our players and the worst for other teams' players. The composite is always the standard ranking.
Yes and no. He had run an unimpressive time at an Opening event but despite that was still ranked as a 5* RB. He lowered that time a couple months later to 4.59 which is pretty good for a 6'2 220lb HS RB. He did fall from a 5* prospect to 53rd in the composite in the end though.
So you just started a forum topic in order to vent in a longwinded way?
Styles' recruitment has been nothing like Wilcoxson's. Completely different. If you're saying that a kid decommitting and committing to another school is a problem, then the Buckeyes have had a lot of problem kids according to that logic. By the way, Styles hasn't even decommitted from Notre Dame yet. He may, but he hasn't made it a public spectacle and all the rumors seem to be internal ones. You're sort of talking nonsense here.
Every cycle they are usually right at the top for most early commitments by locking down a lot of the local Miami/Dade talent during their FR/SO years. Then they start rapidly losing them as they get into their JR/SR years and top programs keep knocking at their doors. If Miami could ever hire the right coach and keep even half of their top local kids home, they would have a top-10 program again.
By all accounts, Styles is a great kid. To infer that he would cause chemistry problems with no actual info to go on is a pretty lazy take TBH. I'm not sure why you would have a problem with Styles wanting to play his preferred position in college. It's his life and he's talented enough to play WR at almost any school in the country. Unfortunately for him, Hartline is just recruiting at the highest level of any assistant coach in the country right now.
Sounds like the UM staff is starting to sound like the fans. "We didn't want Pryor anyway." Easy to think that way when Pryor didn't even consider Michigan. Michigan offered him and they didn't make his top 10.
I do like Henderson's tape better but I like Wheaton's a lot too. I've seen both listed at 5'11 and 6'1 in different places and on tape they look about the same size, so not sure there's actually much of a difference there. Henderson is the more explosive player but Wheaton is an effortless glider. Just comes down to what you like better.
Also have to take into account the competition level we are seeing on these tapes. I would assume Wheaton's is higher level. I have no idea how you could even try to make a case for draft status. These kids are months away from their senior year in high school. You have to produce in college to get drafted high.
I don't think it's about not getting them dooming the Buckeyes, it's about the program attitude that we should expect to land those recruits. Right now Bama, Clemson, UGA expect to land those 5* recruits and Day has OSU back in that mindset right now that Urban did a few years back that we should be expecting to land those players as well. Obviously can't land em all but the mindset is that the Buckeyes should.
Turrentine already committed
He's lower on the list than other DTs. Hall is in the class. Tuimoloau, Malone, Bradley all likely ahead of him and pretty good chance the Buckeyes can grab two of those players. It doesn't seem likely that Payne will be in the class.
I don't think anyone is saying UGA is a better program than OSU, Clemson, or Bama. You're saying a bad year would knock them closer to OU. OU is 36-6 under Riley and has gone to two playoffs in the past three seasons. Yes, that's where UGA is as a title contender until they show they can fix their offense. If they can do so they certainly have the firepower, as they've recruited as well as any other school over the past few years.
Being 4th-7th in the country isn't exactly the equivalent of the program falling apart. Nobody thought LSU would actually contend for a title at this time last year. We were talking about them having a 8-5 year and Ricks flipping. UGA has a better recent history than LSU did at this time last year and has more talent than LSU.
They also beat ND, Florida, Auburn, and Baylor. They had a really good year marred by a bad OT loss to SC (we've had worse upset losses in recent years) and a loss to the undefeated National Champion. I agree that Smart could do better and has made mistakes in the past (against Bama) that cost UGA, but this is a top 6 program in the country right now.
It's not clearly an OSU/UGA battle. Clemson is in the mix as well. They are in on Egbuka, Grimes, Rucci, Leigh, Shipley, and many others. You can't count them out when they have 10 commits with a higher avg ranking than OSU does and are in on prospects like the ones I listed.
That's not accurate. They paid $13 million over 3 years ($5 mil is guaranteed), which IMO is still way too much for Chase Daniel but they aren't paying him $13 million a year, which would be insanity.
Whoops, that was supposed to be DMV, not DMC
The school that is really feeling the pressure is PSU. They were trending up with recruiting a couple years back and now it seems like OSU and Clemson are always leaders for players in places like PA, the DMC, NJ, etc. who PSU typically would grab. PSU is the odd school out in a lot of these battles that end up being OSU or Clemson.
I believe he was referring to the couple years before that when LJ missed on a bunch of very highly ranked out of region DTs because they didn't end up coming north. Some people at the time were freaking out about DT depth. Much like Alford in 2020, LJ did what he could but he can't force players who didn't want to go far from home to do so.
Tweeting somewhat cryptically publicly about Edwards' recruitment in regards to story that painted the school that has led for him in a bad light to me is not in his best interest. Counseling Edwards, helping him deal with various coaching staffs, and guiding him through the process is professional. Bellamy making the recruitment about himself by engaging on Twitter is less professional
The quick answer is that Henderson isn't Robinson and his recruitment shouldn't be marred by what happened last year with a different player. It's highly highly unlikely that Edwards will commit if Henderson does. I think you're worrying too much. Any player could decommit at any time. You can't really think in those terms if you're the OSU staff.
Then they will only get one of Stellato or Egbuka and the program will survive only getting three elite WRs this cycle and not four.
This seems correct to me also. If BG's info is correct and Wilcoxson ends up in the class it likely signals the Buckeyes don't like their chances with Grimes. Obviously if he fell in love with OSU on a summer visit or something they would find room. Hancock flipping is really a pipe dream since it happens like once every 3 or 4 years at Clemson.
Nothing happened with Edwards. Pryor was taking one of the two spots and it seems Henderson has continued to up his interest in Ohio State. Edwards has stuck to his recruitment schedule and there are rumblings Henderson may be moving his up. No school would say no to Pryor and Henderson to wait months to see what Edwards will do.
It's pretty simple. Sam Webb is just a hack trying to turn it into some sort of controversy when the reality is OSU likely leads for 3 of the top RBs in the country and unfortunately will only be able to land two of them.