To clarify ... Carman verbatim said Meyer's longevity was NOT a major factor, but something he did think about. This kid did not want to be in the state of Ohio, could not have been clearer and he stated as such several times. Doesn't matter how good the team is, the coach, the depth chart... sometime you just click elsewhere and as a teenager a chance to experience something new is too much to pass up. This is not on Meyer IMO, you just cant win some battles.
HAHA... damn just laughed out loud at work... now everyone knows I am not working.... but damn you are spot on!!
What in the hell are you talking about?! You understand we currently have a recruiting class higher than both Bama and Clemson... so how are we not winning there. Also we have the same number of NC's as bama and Clemson the past 3 years. Yes we lost to Clemson last time we played, but guess what we beat Bama last we played. To think there is some major gap between OSU and anyone else, let alone Clemson or Bama is just ignorant and being close minded. Let's not forget these recruit rankings mean nothing. 5 stars have busted and 2 stars have become all americans... people are putting too much weight into all of this. OSU has a great class regardless of star rankings. Perfections is not a realistic expectation so to finish just below perfection should not be seen as "going the wrong direction". Win some, lose some... the gap between the top 5-6 programs in college football is pretty damn slim IMO. All will be well you pessimistic, sky is falling, crazy people!
Outside the materialistic desire to have the "#1" player in state... Jackson wasn't going to make this class great by himself... and he wont keep this class from being great by not being a part of it. No single recruit makes or breaks a class. would be nice to have him, but make way for players who's hearts are all in for OSU.
Was anyone else baffled that only ONE guy was trying to fix this? I know there are some pretty specific engineered instructions on mashing down turf and pushing rubber pellets into place... but pretty sure the scientific process could have been taught rather quickly for another person or two to assist.... but maybe I'm the crazy one.
I do enjoy the battle scars of dirt on a uniform... but fake or real... doesn't matter to me.
Not to sound unappreciative with all the other success we have... been I for the life of me cannot understand how we are not in good standings with our top 3 DE targets.... between success of Dline/DE in the NFL, legendary developer LJ, and being on a team always in the national championship conversation, oh and not to mentioned lack of depth... I honestly just don't see whats missing here. I can understand Anthony Cook looking else where as we are stock piled at DB... but DE is wide open and the success of the DL last year I would think young kids would be jumping on board as fast as possible. We will still be great... but not sure what else these kids could want that OSU cant offer, especially over Penn St or Michigan.
Although I agree that Barkley lost a bit of his invincibility after playing decent opponents, I think his lack of production was more a result of a lack luster OL than his own playing ability. He is very much a complete RB, much like the Steelers have in Bell. I would risk a 1st round on the guy for sure, purely based on being an all purpose back, and one of the best in recent history.
Michael Thomas 2.0!!!
Exactly.... yet ironically they were able to constantly hold Wisconsin (the only undefeated team in regular season) back because they had a weak schedule. The lack of consistency and logic are the reason for so much hatred towards to committee, not necessarily bc the Bucks got held out... but put Wisc and Bama on paper and they were the same team... less team history (Brand), which should not be taken into account for a current seasons ranking IMO.
Gonna be a struggle at the beginning of the season as we try to break in a new QB, Center, and rock solid Tackle. I believe we have all the right people to fall into place, but I don't expect it to be seamless, especially on OL... but if we can get through the growing pains early on I think we will be a force. I think next years team could have more potential than this years team.... would love to see Ward and Hubbard back, but even without them I think we will reload just fine.
Yes, you are correct and by means did I intend to come across that Lee was a bust. but even Lee has struggled with rush support and getting off big blockers.... Baker is smaller and likely weaker than Lee so I believe he will have even a more difficult time adjusting. Again I hope Baker is successful and like the kid... but overall I think his game needs to be more rounded before he is a top round draft pick.
Not trying to be negative on Baker... but I do not see him being better than Lee was a couple years ago, and Lee is having his struggles in the NFL. Baker is a great athlete, but still is lacking in run support and significantly undersized for a LB. I hope I am wrong, but I do not see him making a big splash in the NFL at his currently playing level and not sure I see a 1st round value on him right now. Maybe he would fit a good "star" position for NFL team... but he is just in between positions IMO.
What the hell... he could do all that but still managed to miss wide open receivers in the B1G Champ game?!? If only we had an elite QB... I hope that was cloaked with enough sarcasm. Regardless of mistakes made in the game... elite athlete + elite person = elite QB.
2 wrongs don't make a right... taking off my scarlet and grey glasses... I would have hoped the committee learned from last year and put emphasis back on conference championship and they importance of having an additional game to play. You may look at it as being hypocritical... but I would rather they be hypocritical for a year and improve how they do things, rather than continue to do them incorrectly to save face. I didn't believe they bucks should have been in last year and one would think they should have learned from that mistake... clearly they didn't and actually went farther into the wrong direction IMO. Their process, or lack there of, is too obscure and is getting worse.
Sincere question... what have you seen from Alabama this year that leads you to believe they are handily better than Wisconsin? Try to remove the Alabama brand and "potential", just based on this season's performance how do you feel Alabama has hands down performed at a higher level than Wisconsin?
Sometimes I cannot stand being associated with ignorant ungrateful OSU "fans". I forgot that T.Smith, B.Miller, and T.Pryor all never lost games... never had bad passes... never had off games. You would think JT Barrett was on the same level as Zwick the way some people talk. End of the day OSU doesn't have the 4 years of greatness we have had with JT.. Guitton would not have got us there, Jones would not have either (if he played a full season). end of the day Barrett has one a hell of a lot more games then he has lost for us. Stop being a bunch of ungrateful pricks and appreciate what the kid has brought to OSU, because we are going to miss it when he is gone. Haskins is good, but no one has any idea what he is going to be able to do... or what type of leader he will be.
There is a slight difference in 2015 OSU and this years Bama.... Bama simply got beat handily by Auburn for their loss..... OSU gave the Penn St game away and that's what the committee thought as well and why the Buckeye snuck in... also OSU had several QUALITY wins... Bama has beat only 1 team that actually deserves to be ranked... Miss St and Fresno are a joke.
They will play a solid, consistent, time consuming style of play that typically gives the buckeyes fits. 3rd down conversion will be the most important stat in this game. I envision Wisky with a lot of 3rd & 4 scenarios, and we need the defense to get off field. Similarly we cannot have a slow start with multiple 3 and outs... if that happens the first half will be gone before we know it. 3rd down conversion rate will win this game.
People are clueless if the think JB is done competing to play for OSU. He had a delay due to injury at beginning of season. I am telling you the kid is legit... not sure he can beat out Haskins, who is good in his own right... but people overlooking JB will learn better when he is playing for OSU... or playing against OSU (hopefully this doesn't happen). As many have mentioned I don't think we can go wrong with either... but JB is a grinder with a good arm... Meyers offense is very much predicated on that mentality, a well as being able to read option. Unless they change offense a bit next year JB has a good shot to be start next year IMO, really a 50/50.
Fair point... but JT got the team to that point.... if Cardale is the starter all year, we are probably a 2 or 3 loss team. Not to take away from what Cardale accomplished on that run, but the most significant part of winning those games were teams in ability to prepare for him. Honestly we don't win championship without either of them... its like a track relay team... both QBs had their leg to run.
I understand the frustration and concern on losing some of the top talent we currently have committed and still chasing, but people have to keep in mind that recruiting at an elite level for a couple cycles will have an impact at some point in time. Regardless how well your program is playing overall these kids want to play, not sit behind another 5 star kid in a previous class. OSU is stacked at DB and DE... we cant get them all, and in all honesty you can afford to not have the best every year. Let's also keep in mind these rankings are not concrete nor do they matter that much... Clemson and Wisconsin are proof of that. Get kids that fit your system and everything will fall into place.
The fact he has been able to start at a program like OSU for 4 years is an amazing feat in itself, IMO. People may view him as an above par QB, but end of the day he has been an elite player for 4 years, something very few people have done or have even bee capable of doing.
Barely... then I just feel like a prostitute...
JT all day long... the highs and lows he still is a better leader and has proven to be the most prolific QBin OSU and B1G history for a reason. T.Smith had a great arm.. good runner... but I don't see him having a better record if he was playing JT career.