Fields did lead Dobbins too much. The pass was definitely not "on target". But the ground did not cause the fumble. Because Dobbins had to dive he never established possession in the field of play. Had be touched down with possession of the ball, then lost it when he hit the ground then the ground caused the fumble. By not touching down first it was not a fumble because it was not a completion.
By looking at Rutgers with Schiano White is basically saying that he would rather get playing time even if it means not getting better and getting humiliated every game, than getting coaching that can improve him and being part of something exciting. He is saying that he has zero professional potential and just wants to have fun. Which is fine. And probably a good reason to leave OSU.
I expect I'm in the minority but Fields did not have a great game v TTUN. He was too often late or off target, so receivers had to make difficult catches and did not get max yards after catch. There is something to be said for making throws catchable at all, but the really elite QBs makes things easier for receivers. No, I can't do it myself. No, I don't think Fields should be benched. But in grading performance a W does not excuse all faults. And faults that continue can hurt against better opponents.
I'm not understanding the love for Fields in this game. He didn't turn it over, which is a huge improvement (sliding rather than taking on hits helps!) And he did make some very nice throws. But he was off target most of the game, missing open receivers, making catches harder, throwing late, and putting up what could have been a couple of INTs. That we scored 56 does not mean that Justin had a great game.
While there was a huge difference in the success of TTUN's passing in the first half and the second that was not all Silver Bullets. Receivers were still open, they were dropping passes. We need to fix why opposing receivers were getting so open. What this suggests is that what makes our defense work is not lock-down corners or disciplined linebackers but QBs panicking from our pass rush. If our opponent's o-line neutralizes our rush it may be that our pass defense is pretty ordinary, too dependent on drops. This should not be an issue v WIS, it could be in the playoffs. Just as TTUN exposed weaknesses in our defense that blew up in our faces in 2006 yesterday might be a sign that all is not as well as we have been thinking. Or maybe it just means that our back-ups are not as good as starters who were out.
We had a two TD lead at half. We got up 3TDs, 21-0. Then saw our lead shrink to 4 and we managed just one score, and really only one scoring opportunity, in the final 25 minutes of game time. That was from a team that had been averaging over 12 points per quarter. And Fields went down twice, including on his third fumble. You like that game plan? Day got away with it, but I think it helped PSU, who wanted a low-scoring game, more than it helped OSU. TTUN would love to see us play Tressel ball.
Also, if we beat TTUN by one while LSU crushes its opponent we stay #2 in the playoff rankings and have to face Clemson in the semi. We need style points if we want the easier semi, and TTUN is the best chance to get them. Because when we're playing MN LSU is playing GA, and that is all advantage Tigers.
Ryan Day's offensive game plan hurt us far more than it helped by eliminating all hope of chunk gains and by increasing the risk to the one player the team can not lose. OSU's offensive coaching was AWFUL!
Stock down. 1) Day's game management. We can blame Fields for the fumbles, but Fields is not trained to hold on to the ball against monster defenders on a regular basis, and it was Day who put Fields in that position. If Day again calls a Meyer game we could lose to TTUN. And if we win but Fields gets hurt on his 20th carry the season is essentially over.
2) Fields' accuracy. He was off target all game long. He is getting saved by good receivers, but he is making catches harder and reducing possible yards after catch because receivers have to break stride. He has too often been less accurate than his numbers suggest. It was particularly noticible against PSU.
I got no support when I said this last week but what we saw today was more of the lack of concentration we showed v Rutgers. Today we were either cocky or scared on offense. Day needs to get players back to valuing each play.
It was a pass play. But the knock on Fields all year is that he takes too long and either gets sacked or runs. Either way the pass play carried too high a risk that Fields was going to get hit. So don't call it. Just hand to JK and let the defense stuff them.
We didn't need a FG. That was the point. We had enough points to win. As long as we don't give them any quick scores - such as a blocked FG run back - we win. We did not need a fg!!!!! We have a FG team for when going for 3 points makes more sense then not going for 3 points.
Did you watch the 2016 game? We did not need more points on our last possession today, and we really didn't need to take a chance on a blocked kick. Not kicking was absolutely right. If our D can't stop PSU from scoring 2 TDs in 2 mins we do not deserve to win.
Day "believes" Fields is fine? Day BELIEVES Fields is fine? This wouldn't even be a concern if Day had not called a play putting Fields - who holds the ball too long - in harms way, rather than just handing the ball to Dobbins and sending out the defense. That, and the Fields run on first down of that last full possession, were play calls that can kill a season even if we win the game. I can not imagine what Day was thinking up two scores with 2 mins to play letting the one guy we can't lose take hits.
I would take Olave over Victor.
Second game in a row that Wilson is not listed as back-up kick returner. Wonder if the muffed punt had anything to do with that?
As of 7:15PM ET Sunday Bovada has it down to 10.
Hmmmm. I agree with you about Young, Gene. But what was your thinking in 2011 when you let a 6-6 team go bowling (where it lost), only to have a 12-0 team kept home? I'm not convinced that you do look at things strategically, I think you make knee-jerk decisions and then defend them. But you did get it right in this case.
In past years I have wanted OSU to use these glorified scrimmages to work on things we needed to get better at, without worrying about style points. Meyer rarely took that approach - sometimes we looked good, sometimes it really backfired and we struggled at what we were supposed to be good at, either way the problems continued. Not always with losses, but no way we should have lost to Clemson by 31.This year there is little that needs to be fixed. So we should have two goals for the game: 1) no injuries, and 2) get back-ups a lot of reps in case they are needed. These are addressed with the same fix - put the back-ups in early. This might depress the winning margin but we don't need style points, we need to ensure we can win out starting with PSU. With healthy starters preferably, and with back-ups if necessary.
Fields is playing very well. But as the article points out by mentioning The Walrus (Bollman) Fields is benefitting from a coherent offensive plan that previous OSU QBs did not have. I'd like to see how Pryor or Guiton would have done with this set of coaches.
McCall's catch of a punt while falling down was terrifying. If you lose your balance get out of the way!
I don't take comparison to Marshall as a positive. Marshall did have some exciting returns, but he also fumbled too much and had trouble judging the ball, far too often letting kicks hit the ground and roll towards our end zone. It was said that we would have averaged better field position with no one back to return punts.
42-17 is a weird prediction, because it says that a bad offense will have a strong game against us. Is NW's 17 based on us turning the ball over a couple of times, giving NW very short fields or defensive scores? us getting up 42-0 and Day letting our back-ups struggle? or the Wildcats' offense actually outperforming itself? How does NW get 17 points?
I haven't seen PSU play but their box scores are impressive. I'm now more worried about the Lions than the Badgers.
Why on earth did Ferentz not call a timeout before TTUN punted the last time? You don't save TOs for offense, you use them on defense, because your offense can control the clock. He gave away almost half a minute of time he desperately needed. So yeah, probably COY.
I also agree with Westside - I thought Victor lost control before he crossed the line, was not OOB with control, it was a live ball lying on the ground - and Buckeyes ran by it leaving it there. WHEN THE BALL IS ON THE GROUND PICK IT UP!!! And Victor, your #1 goal is not scoring, it is ball control!!! Victor earlier dropped a ball right on his hands, had a false start. He did make some nice moves on what was scored the TD, but as in this game his ups are matched by downs. I think Wilson should be getting the playing time.