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Andy Vance 12th Warrior


Columbus, Ohio (via Hillsboro, Ohio)

MEMBER SINCE   October 22, 2012

Farm kid from Southern Ohio, writing about the WrestleBucks at the best sports site on the interwebz.


  • SPORTS MOMENT: Taking my dad to The Shoe for the first time.
  • NFL TEAM: Pittsburgh Steelers
  • NHL TEAM: Columbus Blue Jackets
  • NBA TEAM: The Los Angeles Lakers of my youth
  • MLB TEAM: Cincinnati Reds, I guess...?
  • SOCCER TEAM: Columbus Crew

Recent Activity

Comment 13 Dec 2018

I didn't follow the early stages of his recruitment, but I figure Minnesota had home-state advantage... but he'd come in and compete with fellow phenom Gable Steveson. Then Oklahoma State has the lure of living legend John Smith, but the program isn't quite on an even footing with Ohio State at the moment in terms of freestyle training... particularly for big men. With Snyder in the room and Tervel Dlagnev on staff, Ohio State would be pretty attractive for a guy who wants to wrestle toward U23 and senior world titles.

Comment 13 Dec 2018

Snyder, in the video:

"You know, I got pinned in the NCAA finals, and I got pinned in the world finals, so really the only tournament left for me to get pinned in is the Olympic finals and then I would have done all three of them," he said, laughing. "I felt like getting pinned in the NCAA finals I was like, man there's nothing worse that can happen, and then I get pinned in the world finals, but I realize that it's really not that bad, life goes on, wrestling isn't my life. I feel like I'm going to be able to compete to my full ability now, because I truly don't care if I win or lose, but I just want to wrestle hard."

"After the match, I took some time to myself at the arena, and then everything was normal, I was able to laugh, I was able to have fun with my family, I was able to not really think about wrestling for a little bit, take my mind out of the sport for a little. Everything was fine...I think knowing that, and having experienced those losses in my career is actually freeing, because I know that no matter what the result is now, it doesn't really have any impact at all on the person I am or who I am."

"I'll be in Russia in 2019, so if Sadulaev wants to go again, let's go again, but if not, World Championships 2019, I can't wait for Round Three."

Going back to the 2018 match, Sadulaev basically took the one shot Snyder didn't anticipate him taking. If you look at their previous meeting, the bout went to the wire, and was a pretty narrow decision because both guys are in fact the best in the world. This time, Sadulaev went for the home run early, and landed it. One thing we know about Snyder is that he rarely makes the same mistake twice; if you look back at Adam Coon's win over Snyder in the 2018 NCAA season, it was a learning experience for Snyder, and Coon – also a world-class freestyle and Greco-Roman guy – wasn't able to repeat the feat.

Comment 12 Dec 2018

That is indeed the word on Campbell - Coach Ryan confirmed Friday ahead of the Wisconsin dual that he's a little banged up. Nothing serious, I think, but there were a few guys who didn't wrestle for similar reasons (Ke-Shawn Hayes fits that bill as well). Ryan said specifically that Campbell is still the starter, but after Smith's win over a Top-10 opponent, I'll say again that it won't surprise me if Smith gets another shot to earn the spot. Campbell's upside is strong, really it is, but when he's off his game, he's really off. He has to, has to, has to get more aggressive on his feet to have any chance of placing in March.

And ditto what you said about Singletary. The position he was in versus the guy from Mizzou, I'm not at all sure how he walked away without something serious. Like I said with Campbell, Singletary's upside is strong, but he has to grow into the weight more. He's got to put on some more quality weight to really be a force at HWT.

Comment 10 Dec 2018

Coach Ryan strenuously objected to the call on the mat. I'd have to watch the tape again, but if I recall, he thought Smith had a four-point near-fall, and it was scored as just two points. I think Ryan wanted them to review it, and he can be what I lovingly think of as passionate, or demonstrative. Now watching it back on BTN last night, I didn't think it looked like he was out of line, but then again I think all wrestling coaches are fairly animated when it comes to their guys not getting calls (see Brands, Tom and Terry, or Jones, Zeke, for further evidence).

Comment 07 Dec 2018

Even the '85 Bears lost a game. Very few teams, even at the highest level of the game, go undefeated. Your answer is technically correct - clearly the cotton-headed ninnymugginses on the committee couldn't get past the Iowa or Purdue losses, but a loss is a loss. There are no moral victories, and all losses are bad.

Comment 07 Dec 2018

The correct answer is the Bucksfan changes his icon thread. 

How on earth did it take someone this long to give the correct answer. I'm getting old, apparently.

Comment 07 Dec 2018

... his last name really could be Ball.

Took me a minute to realize we weren't talking about LaMelo, actually.

Comment 06 Dec 2018

And if you're trying to make money, you pass on 75% of these games in favor of Northern Illinois type matchups.

For me, this is the most daunting part of betting the games, honestly. If I had to pick the games to bet, I think it would drive me up the wall. It was nice having a slate of games chosen for me each week. There's a lot more strategy at play if you were really trying to put some coin in your pocket, rather than just betting for 11W bragging rights.

Comment 06 Dec 2018

Anything below 65% should be considered "failing."

As my very first economics professor taught us on the first day of class, transaction costs are a real thing, so even at 54%, I pretty much broke even (thank goodness for that sign-up bonus!). Consider that at $10/game on 136 games wagered, using an average of -110 odds you're looking at a possible payout of $19.09 per game... you've wagered $1,360 and won $1,393.57, or a roughly 2.5% return on investment.

Annualized that's something a little better than 10%, but your point is valid - I won enough to make it a fun use of $100 in seed money, but not enough to buy Rose Bowl tickets.

Comment 30 Nov 2018

The Buckeyes went 6-0 in the quarterfinals, and now have a commanding lead in the team race, with 88 points to Missouri's 77.5. Ohio State is the only team in the tournament who will have six guys wrestling for titles tomorrow, and the team also has Ke-Shawn Hayes alive in the wrestlebacks.

It was a solid night of action for Tom Ryan's squad, with decisions from Pletcher, McKenna, Jordan and Moore, the major from Martin and the emphatic finish – a pin of No. 13 Matt Stencel of Central Michigan midway through the second – from heavyweight Chase Singletary.

Singletary is undefeated on the season, and recorded two pins and two victories over Top-15 opponents in Friday's action.

Comment 30 Nov 2018

Okay, halfway through the quarters, the Buckeyes are holding serve.

  • Luke Pletcher moves on to the 133-pound semifinals with a 4-3 decision over Chas Tucker (Cornell)
  • Joey McKenna advances at 149 with a decision over No. 15 Dom Demas (Oklahoma), 8-3
  • Micah Jordan defeats No. 10 Austin O’Connor (North Carolina), 7-3, to make the 149-pound semis

In wrestleback action, Ke-Shawn Hayes easily handled Wyoming's Dewey Krueger via a 12-3 major decision. Aside from the match he lost in the championship bracket, he has done really well this tournament.

Three Buckeye upper weights will wrestle yet tonight in the quarterfinals.

Comment 30 Nov 2018

If you're just settling in for the quarterfinals, the Buckeyes are tied with Nebraska for the most wrestlers still alive in the championship bracket, as six men in scarlet & gray will wrestle yet tonight. Missouri, which as noted above is in the lead for the team score, still has five wrestlers advancing toward the finals, and three more in the wrestlebacks, while Ohio State just has Ke-Shawn Hayes in the consolation bracket.

The matchups all look pretty favorable for the Buckeyes, 

  • 133: No. 5 Luke Pletcher vs. Chas Tucker (Cornell) 
  • 141: No. 2 Joey McKenna vs. No. 15 Dom Demas (Oklahoma)
  • 149: No. 2 Micah Jordan vs No. 10 Austin O’Connor (North Carolina)
  • 184: No. 1 Myles Martin vs. No. 16 Louie DePrez (Binghamton)
  • 197: No. 3 Kollin Moore vs. Ben Honis (Cornell)
  • HWT: Chase Singletary vs. No. 13 Matt Stencel (Central Michigan)

Singletary was the biggest pleasant surprise of the day, as he upended No. 9 Conan Jennings (Northwestern) to reach the heavyweight quarterfinals. Nice to see him record his the first Top-10 victory of his collegiate career, and against Northwestern on the eve of the Big Ten Championship Game, no less.