LOL. PLEASE. Did you read the article? It is a total "sweep this crap under the rug" article. I'm pretty you're a smart, educated guy. But you might want to take a look at the article again. Two people at tOSU were named- the doc who is dead and a quick quote from Drake. Mind you, the Ohio State Administration is accused of covering this up for decades, but not one of them is named by 11w. Hopefully it's a preliminary article and someone will actually read the report and write about it. But until then I'll go somewhere else for some real discussion. the gestapo mentality by the mods on this topic is tragic.
"A little odd". No, it's extremely odd- like circling the wagons to protect a dead dog odd, like acting like PSU fans odd. It's okay to bad mouth former players. It's okay to wrongly coaches of spousal abuse. But thou shalt not speak of the disgusting decisions of the past administrations. This shall be swept under the rug, my friends and there will be no further discussion to get to the bottom of this.
Come on. I hear what you're saying. But Stover is no Zeke. He's just not. Stover had a weird career. He even played some qb. It was strange. I don't know if he ever got settled in to any position. The competition he was up against was just that bad, and his coaching staff was all over the place because of their limited talent to work with. I agree that it's difficult to project careers, especially after an injury, but I'm not just spouting off crap because I feel like it. The recruiting services kept Sherman a 5 star and still project him as a first round draft guy. Sherman is ranked 18th in his class. Stover is 96. They're not close. I hope Stover has an awesome career- I graduated from same high school a long time ago. But, I just don't see super star potential. Then again people were saying similar things re AJ Hawk. My original point stands. I don't think we can just say, "No big deal, because Stover is coming."
Lol. You two don't read well, do you? You're projecting what you want to hear. I never said a word about last year. The fact is that Stover hasn't played against top talent, and Sherman has. Even the scouting services note that as a concern for Stover. I've seen him play. I've seen the teams he played against. They were terrible. He did very well against terrible competition. He's unproven.
Umm. Stover played against absolutely no one. He hasn't seen any and I mean any decent competition. He's a big dude who knows the game and could dominate against the schools in the Mansfield area which I happen to know very well. They're not good. Sherman played against the best schools in the nation. Every week Sherman was playing against one of the top programs while every week Stover was playing against the best Richland county Ohio had to offer. Stover might be solid. Sherman is elite.
I don't think Cade is close to the caliber of Sherman.
I respect your struggle and what you're fighting right now, but your contempt for the conspiracy theorists or whatever we call them is laughable. The field of "science" is rife with controversy and scams. The replication crisis and disaster of peer review has led to widespread distrust and is partly to blame for the rise of the whole essential oil crowd. You guys can continue to sit in your ivory towers and lob crap at people who have their own theories, but the game is up. People, especially the ones who understand the replication issue, don't trust "science" anymore, and for good reason. Too many of us have watched people we love endure needless tests to help pay for hospital equipment. We're pretty sure doctors are manipulated by the drug companies. And we're tired of science being manipulated for political and monetary gain. And by the way the Atlantic just published a story on the crock of dentistry and the questionable use of fluoride.
Lol at people downvoting this. It's at least as crooked as boxing.
Way too early to call Fields a walk-off grand slam. Just way too early. So far it's been a huge fail. Maybe Fields will throw darts and run for miles. Maybe he won't. So far the fruits of that decision are an empty qb room.
Congrats on the first post. Great to hear from you. I don't think he did us wrong. And I don't think he'll play for a competitor.
You and me both, and people got all bent out of shape and threw down votes.
You are correct. High school level mistakes were made with this whole thing. No doubt this situation will show up in the introduction to some remedial leadership text. It's laughable that people don't see this. You can't blame a kid for leaving. It's the coaches job to recruit, train, and retain athletes.
Lol. Okay. Based on what? You're hoping he is and you're believing all the hype about the Fields, but the fact is he had less game experience than Tate. He's far behind Baldwin with learning the offense and with team chemistry. This season is on the brink, and you're thinking an unproven transfer is going to carry this team into Ann Arbor for the win? I hope you're right, but I haven't seen anything to make me think you are.
I had the same thought. This is 100% on the way the coaches are handling the players. Bringing in Fields was easily the worst thing Day could have done to this team. Step one for the new leader: build trust. Day failed at that big time in the qb room.
I have my concerns with Fields as well. This is not good. All the Tate haters wanted total him names, but it really seems like the coaches don't have slightest fracking idea how to handle these kids.
Agree that the O has the potential to be good. However, if the lack of a proven rb pushes them to run Patterson more, then anything can happen. I'm not sure how you can say the D will be fine. There are holes all over the place even at coaching. They could be okay, but I don't think they can perform at the same level they have for the last few years. I don't care about the odds makers. This is shaping up to be a challenging year on all fronts for MI- losses on D, new schemes, new coaches, tough schedule. Even you're allowing room for 2 losses. I guess I don't understand how long you guys will be okay without conference championship and play off berth.
Also, you might be right re Fields. I think most of tOSU is putting far too much faith in him.
Let's say you split Army/Wisconsin and Notre Dame /PSU. You beat MSU at home but lose to tOSU at home. I think that's most realistic scenario for you guys, but you could easily slip and lose more. Are the fans and admin really going to want him back after another 3 loss season of whacky Harbaughisms? Will he really want to stick around for another season?
Mi is on the razor's edge this year and it could easily head south quick. If you lose to Army, which is a distinct possibility, because your D isn't going to stop them and your O scheme is still new against a tested and veteran D, then you're probably going to take the L at Wiscy too. You have 2 home games to get it figured out after that, before a road trip to IL and PSU. I don't think Harbaugh can lead this team through the fire. He's not a motivator of 18-22 year olds so you better hope one of your new coordinators can step up.
This was always my big concern. And no one seemed to care...Fields is unproven after the surgery.
They're finally going to run an offense designed in the last 20 years and also one that suits their quarterback. They will do much better on O unless Shea breaks a couple of ribs and they have to trust Mcaffery. They have a good O-line, but no running back so here's to Shea running 40 times a game. They have a great group of receivers.
Don't let yourself get scared though, because their D is weak this year. They won't field a proven D line. The linebackers are meh. They're going to give up yards in the running game for sure.
I think Army can give them a really good run this year. Mi will be breaking in a new offensive scheme and breaking in new D personnel as well as coaches. If army wins, then season melt down will occur. I really think that game is a toss up. Then they have Notre Dame. They could have 4 losses before we see them in that crap hole. However, if they stay healthy, then they have the offensive personnel and coaching to score enough points to win the games. IF they're undefeated at the end of Nov, then we could be in for a battle that will crush their souls.
I see too many "ifs" for them again this year. I think they experience a season melt down due to a Shea injury, and Harbaugh isn't a good enough leader to get them through struggles with Army and Notre Dame. Harbaugh is the wrong guy for that program and he'll take an NFL gig.
I didn't down vote you, but from the short preview above, Phoenix is absolutely doing things Ledger wasn't able to do with the character- not necessarily due to inability on Ledger's part. This joker is multi dimensional in ways that we haven't seen before.
One more reason to not watch nfl. The games are going to last 6 hours.
North Rim is definitely the best, but I don't think it's open this time of year. North rim is breathtaking. Way better than fighting the traffic of Zion, in my opinion. Zion was busy and small that I couldn't wait to get out of there. So many other things to see in Utah that one could skip Zion and not miss that much.
So tired of Duke. Someone please beat them.
I'm still laughing from reading the comment re the 15 yo beating Rutgers. Pure gold. I shouldn't say much, though, because I've had my moments of lunacy on 11w.
Once again the mods are cool with name calling and insults directed at a former player. 11w is becoming a joke. This thread is worse than the crap on mgo. Best of luck to Tate. Hope he lights it up down south.