"As shown, deaths in young people (from babies to college students) are almost non-existent. The first age group to provide a substantial contribution to the death toll is 45-54 years..."
FML, you can be completely free of symptoms and your test can be a false negative to the extent that what the hell, let’s just say you have it. So basically the only options are you have it (positive) or or probably have it (could be a false negative!). So at that point, everyone probably has it, so f@ck it, go live your normal life because clearly it doesn’t matter, test or no test.
I am optimistic that we can, but not that we will. All indications are that the actual infection rate is much, much higher than reported positives, and that the survival rate is much higher. It appears that the health risk to healthy persons is extremely low. That said policy isn’t set that way
Really I’m hoping for a late start. If we can have conference games and a playoff I would be thrilled.
So in several years? Society will have built immunities before then.
I don’t know if this is the right move until we actually get some numbers and more details which informed this decision. I don’t know what changed in the protocol from self quarantine if a case is id’d to stopping all voluntary workouts. Would really like to know that data
I disagree that we can’t have football this fall (although can’t and won’t are two different things).
I have heard very few supporting rioting in particular, but yes the stance on going out in public in general, protesting against the lockdown, and recent protests is clear. People can see the hypocrisy.
You cannot use COVID as an excuse to limit personal freedoms (potentially justified), then turn around and say it’s okay in another, much more high risk activity Or context. Inconsistency breeds mistrust. That’s my point. Once the dam breaks, there’s no going back.
Please then, enlighten me on the finer points of regression analysis. Telling me that I don’t know how to look at a graph is just a personal attack. Rather, please point out the flaws in my logic.
If your only rebuttal is that I don’t know how to look at a graph, its clear you don’t know how to look at a graph, you can only muster a petty response. Yes, there is a recent uptick. Look the the data. There are plenty of upticks and downticks. When you don’t have enough data you can’t make good decisions. When you have months of data you have a trend. Hence the trend line. My point was you do not make policy decisions based on small datasets. Argue the logic, don’t put people down. Especially people with a masters degree who look at data for a living.
Just an observation: why all the downvotes for anyone critical of Dr Drake? It would appear he did a lot of good for Ohio State, and I appreciate that. However, he did screw up royally in his two highest visibility public exposures, that of the beloved band director and football coach. It is also odd that he “retired” from OSU to take another job, it was in the works and I’m sure the retirement comes with a nice annuity from the state of Ohio - which is his right, I suppose.
We can all agree he was not a good fit. It seemed as if he had as much disdain for the State of Ohio and traditions at tOSU as the general supporters of the university ever had of him.
You cannot effectively lead what you do not truly love. Good luck, Dr. Drake.
My guess is that it is a political issue because the information, decisions and messaging have been highly inconsistent and conflicting. The How much data is available on second hand smoke? How many years has it been studied before smoking sections were banned? When decisions comes across and knee-jerk and authoritarian it will be perceived as an infringement on personal liberty. Furthermore, when the idea of rioting and protesting is fully supported (including, apparently by a large portion of the medical community), but normal folks cannot live their normal lives, it comes across as hypocritical, insincere and destroys trust.
How can imposing hypocritical rules on the masses of normal, tax-paying citizens NOT become political? It's not just about the masks.
For the record, I wear a mask in public spaces where I am unable to social distance - I don't have a problem with it. But even I can see very clearly that many of our political leaders are being hypocritical and authoritarian. Americans love freedom. That's why I love America.
Yes, I'm sure Mayor Andrew Ginther had plenty of input on this decision- unlike the removal of the statue of Christopher Columbus from City Hall.
Methinks you are picking nits with that critique. While technically correct, it misses the overall point. Everything is on the decline. As demonstrated by those graphs. We are looking at curves and overall trends. Setting public policy should not be reactionary to short term trends or spikes.
...because there is more testing. So that’s a moot statistic. It what you would absolutely expect. The larger to pool of tested individual the more positive results in whole number. The % or positives and deaths would the the meaningful statistics.
There’s not going to be a season because people refuse to wear masks thanks to
our fearless leader setting the example for the country.tens of thousands of people screaming and yelling in the streets with no social distancing and little PPE. Like it or not this is a fact.
Fixed it for you.
Exactly what I was thinking. Buckeye Pledge seems pretty damn smart - hold each other accountable for your actions...
I'd buy a T-shirt that says that. Rise, indeed.
I honestly don't know why there is not a federal, national holiday to celebrate emancipation. Juneteenth should be made a federal holiday. It is long overdue. No other country on the face of this earth has spilled as much blood as the United States to end the practice of slavery, and we should make sure no one ever forgets that fact.
...But either way...HERD IMMUNITY IN A MONTH!
This whole Buckeye Pledge dust up is stupid. Folks are just making a big deal of it because it’s Ohio State. It’s not a damn waiver. Participation is always voluntary, and there is ALWAYS a risk to your health in athletic competition, especially at the level of Ohio State. Regardless, if you can prove negligence, you can win a lawsuit...sometimes even if you sign a waiver. So what is the damn big deal? There is an additional low level of risk this year, the fallout of which is more of an impact to the team and coaches in general, not the individual player. The odds of I highly conditioned athlete to die or seriously impacted by C19 is so very, very low. The greater impact would be to the teams ability to compete in general or the coaches health, etc. Hence a “pledge”, which has been shown to improve accountability.
I attended two out of those last three games. I know nothing but Notre Dame being lame.
Excellent what the B1G is doing to address this. Hopefully they will review the joint research study conducted by two of its member schools:
That’s a dumb comment. There are so many things that the general population does that requires a waiver. Like almost anything. Read the fine print on the back of any airline tickets. I guarantee there will be an implied waiver of liability in every football ticket.
Not to mention this really does sound more educational and promissory more than anything. Not a release from liability. The university is probably not held liable if a student athlete gets hurt in general- you would have to prove negligence.
Im glad that at least the football team understands personal responsibility.
Been subscribed to RJ for a while. Good takes. This video in particular was so inspiring. Proud to be a Buckeye. I wonder how much of this history is shared with the players?
Also, COVID not (that much of) a big deal. Putting thousands of minorities out of work and destroying small business is a pretty big deal too. Weighing the costs, yes we were played like fools. Sweden appears to be fine. At risk folks isolate and get support. Everyone else weigh the risks and go on with life. Now that thousands have not social distanced, its pretty much over. Herd immunity in one horrifying week. Protesters and rioters have already signed grammas death certificates.
Correct. Social distancing stopped being taken seriously last week. Damage has been done. Certainly won’t be that much worse by September once herd immunity kicks in among the protesters and everyone they have been in contact with.