Totally agree with the OP. We are out because of JT, primarily his inability to pass and making many games a tougher context than necessary. For sure he wins often but then our roster is better too. Five years is too long for someone to be the QB at Ohio State, good ones leave early. Had Haskins played from the beginning, maybe we would not have won Oklahoma but likely would have easily beaten others. Also, I don't think we would have won the 2014 NC had JT been in there for the playoffs. Excited for the next year but unfortunately it will be a short tenure for Haskins, he is good and will be gone.
This is on the coaches, not having courage to change the QB when needed
Coach Meyer, for your own sake, please put in a new QB
JT Barret is a miracle of passing inefficiency,IMO
Of course, since JT has been the QB. There is a very obvious problem, don't need a genius to figure it out
It is amazing to me that coaches who earn $7-8 million a year still can't figure out that you can't turn a glorified runner in to a QB
So Marshon is expected to declare too? A big learning curve for the 2017 defense again, we can use all the help we can get. Great addition.
There is a poll on the front page, 81% favor open QB competition. This thread is not reflection of that, it seems there are more pro-JT comments here. True, we had young receivers and JT has won many accolades but we have also struggled mightily over the last two years – our passing game except for a few games in-between. With open receivers, I have seen JT miss them very often. I am not even sure if Beck was the problem if JT indeed is not a good passer. Tom Herman is not a fool to hire Beck if he thought he was not a good coach. I don't know what Urban will do, but I hope there is open competition and Haskins gets a shot. I am afraid Burrow and Collier will transfer.
Not happy but I wish him luck and let the best player play
Sorry but I think JT is a problem. I have seen it for the last two years and the offense has underpormed. He misses open receivers beyond 20 yards. Most QBs in B1G can throw better than him. He had his time, sure was a 'leader' but its time for others to perform. If he stays, the job should not be automatically his - it should be open competition and let the best player win - leave aside all the argument about JT being a great leader. We need talent and you can't teach talent. Under those circumstances, I am afraid if those waiting in the wings are not given a fair shot, thay may transfer and that will be a big lossnot worth retaining JT.
I am for JT leaving but if he really wants to stay, he should not be pushed out. It should be open competition whoever can pass better. Nothing like his better leadership should compensate for his lack of talent if such is the case. I just don't want a repeat of 2016 and/or 2016, at no cost.
We are talking about firing Beck (I agree he should go even if he was not totally responsible). However, IMO fundamental fault lies with Urban himself of introducing or accepting mediocracy in the system. I have heard him more than once where he worried about losing coaches. So, he hires Beck, Studrawa and now Bill Davis. From the looks of it, they are Ohioans, older generation and not very much sought after – ensuring stability at the cost of greatness. Also, earlier, he promotes Warinner to replace Tom Herman, Warriner can’t fill those shoes. Why didn’t he apply the same formula and hire an outsider, aggressive and outstanding coach even if you lose him after two years? Because it requires courage to take the risk to which Urban seems to have become avert to. But, for example, I don’t see Saban taking easy routs. It is time that Urban assesses himself first before making changes which we desperately need.
I am not expecting any major changes. I think it would hard for Urban to make personnel changes - friendships, loyalties and associations are hard to put aside. I wonder what out of the box solution there can be - would Urban risk hiring an unknown entity like Tom Herman to replace his senior staff as his recent hires have been kind of lame and safe. So I am skeptical about any noteworthy overhaul of the system.
I shudder at the thought of JT coming back but if he does, it should be within open competition talent wise at QB. His seniority or leadership role should not count except on the sidelines
QB's first and formost quality is to be able to throw both short & deep balls. JT is an athelete playing QB, he is not a QB. It gets exposed in big games when they don't respect your arm and crowd the line. A real QB makes the offense work and also make coaches look good. I want a real QB playing the position - not the one whose main qualification is that he is a good leader. Enogh of that crap
It is also the QB
Please tell me there is no chance in hell of JT even considering coming back?
Thankyou JT but please don't come back next year
The difference between the two teams is the QB play
JT just cannot throw. He may be a good leader but as a QB, he is bad.
Some offense coaches should be taken to task after this game, may be defense also
Sweep is totally predictable
Problem: we have a QB who cannot throw deep. WR's don't get open. That puts pressure on our defense