Funny Denver....urban also laid an egg v Clemson, so....there’s that.
@ Knar...[chuckle]. I’m inclined to lay a lot of blame at Billy’s feet but by default Urban’s too. Meyer gloated and waxed on about Werner like nobody’s biz. I certainly don’t want the kid to fail. I’m just hoping we’ll see a change w the coaching....and by extension mucho improvement.
Bravo. I didn’t go there last night but...[tips hat].
I’m sure this will be unpopular but Demario is the epitome of a backup at tOSU. I love him as a KR but he gets beat out when comparing him to the other RBs and at H - which I think he’s well suited for. On the small side for RB and better athletes at H. He’s great to rotate in, especially later in the game when the D may be softer. Sounds bad, I know. I like the kid. He’s a great example of work ethic and buying in and he’d definitely start at many other schools. But athletically, it’s hard to put him ahead of other players. JMO.
Fair enough. I’m just saying if we get the same and don’t make adjustments again....then what?
[after] White, Proctor comes to mind to me as the Bullet. I mean Hafley’s points regarding the Bullet really seemed to describe him. Athleticism, cover, shed blocks, size, etc. He seems to check the boxes. But also pointed out in the write up, when the Bullet is in, Werner is out.
We just have to trust the process. I expect an improved D from day 1 but also expect some growing pains. Once the D coaches/players all come together tough....I’m [cautiously] expecting The Silver Bullet D to return.
Frustration for me last year came from not rotating and/or giving some others a shot. If we go w Werner and get the same, I’m hoping adjustments get made. As pointed out in here already, if Werner is our best option, we’ve had some serious misses in recruiting.
the next great Buckeye at LB
That was my thought w Hilliard. Still feel for that kid. But Baron just feels like an outside backer to me. Then again, I’m not getting paid 500k to make that call.
For the life of me, I can’t understand how Baron isn’t outside. He himself even said he’s more comfortable there.
First of all, it was a joke.
Teams want the next Maohomes or even Mayfield, but in Murray I see a shorter version, w a lesser arm, who’s not as tough as those two. I don’t wish the kid ill, but I don’t see him holding up in the nfl.
To be more clear, my comment was critical of the staff - for having him out there. Do you think Borland would say “hey, I’m too small and slow...better take me out”
With Dwayne it’d be an Air Raid. With Murray, more like a Hot Air Balloon.
Krenzel’s on my wall. Like another coach on the field. Great kid. Great leader. Great Buckeye!
Hey I bitched too. In hindsight though part of me says he was still dealing w the Achilles. Plus they put him out there and didn’t make changes. I’d have to believe Borland was just doing his best in a bad scheme w an Achilles issue - pretty tough spot.
Like I said in another write up, Urban loved to recruit HS QBs, because in his words, they were typically “the best athlete” on their team. As you point out, Jalin was one - so was Darron Lee. Got to be somebody on the bench.
Call it what you will, changes should have been at least explored. Urban literally gushed about Werner and Borland both, but Werner in particular before the season began. Borland undersized as it is, was recovering from the Achilles injury...and we wonder why Keandre transferred? No point in debating now. I think we’re all just excited to see what all those $$$ in [new] salaries bought us.
Ok here’s my dead horse comment...really excited to see Tyreke. I think he’s the next up and coming DE - even w Harrison. Harrison probably has the most upside but needs a year or so to just grow. Not leaving Potter out either. I think he’ll pleasantly surprise us. Part 2 of the dead horse is Proctor. I really hope we get to see him some. Hafley seems high on him in one of his interviews.
Think we’ll see rotation at LB - even w the “bullet” position. I don’t see how Mitchell and Gant can be kept off the field, as well as Baron.
Lastly, any kids on D play any QB in HS? Just curious?
Urban 2.0 Tressel was elated if he won by a FG. It was his style. However, [younger] Urban seemingly would want to beat down opponents, winning 70-0 and leaving no doubt. We didn’t get that version. No question his recruiting and motivation of players was unparalleled - but did he still have that killer instinct?
Stuck - All fair and all good points. Bottom line 2 great coaches, both great for the program...and more importantly just what the program needed when they each came in. To me, Tressel is the man. And yet urban established a culture here like never before.
Well I’d supplant “Drake” for your “university”. Drake cowered to Abigail Wexner specifically, and issued the suspension as a motion to pacify her. If Drake is gone in a couple years....never know.
Funny and unrelated, I walk into Colla’s on Market St the other day for a haircut and Bo Pelini is getting his ear’s lowered...and holding court. Meh. I told a friend later “if that was Tressel, I’d been as giddy as a 12 year girl at a Taylor Swift concert.”
Well Tressel’s approach was different, definitely. He believed in putting a wall around Ohio and Urban was “national”. That said I believe Tressel did more w less. A well documented Tressel guy I am, so sure - you can call bias. But I think there’s something to be said for the Ohio kids in recent years, that went to say Iowa and Purdue because tOSU didn’t offer them [clears throat]. Tressel came here to beat *ichigan and bring another title - to which he did. He also welcomed OSU alumni players back w open arms, while Urban was pretty much the opposite.
Well Urban used to love recruiting HS QBs not necessarily to play QB, but because they were generally the best athlete on their team. Darron Lee comes to mind. So....shouldn’t we have a couple former HS QBs on the bench, somewhere?
The secondary, and less glaring issue here was already pointed out by ‘iowabuckeyes’....if Baldwin is granted immediate eligibility it will set an even bigger precedent. Day himself said the target was next year for Baldwin. So if he does leave and has to sit a year elsewhere, that’s one thing. But if he’s granted immediate eligibility that opens up the portal even more - doesn’t it? Perhaps there’s details we don’t know, but if Baldwin is leaving solely based on PT, he should have to sit.
[chuckle]. Live it up.