Washington Post Dumps on Urban

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

I think we are all well aware that if Urban Meyer was a .500 coach, he would of been fired this year. Is that necessarily a bad thing? When you are great at what you do, you get more chances. 

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BBQ_Fan's picture

When you are great at what you do, you get more chances. 

Fair or not, right or not, that's usually the way life works

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AzBuckeye45's picture

Very true. But, UM didn't do anything wrong.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

If Urban was a 0.500 coach, he would have been fired 2 years ago or more. 

If Urban was fired because of unproven allegations, that would still be wrong no matter the record.

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Dstacify's picture

Yep. And the school would've been exposed to litigation and legal liability because of it. See Jim O'Brien. This is why the media doesn't get to make decisions for OSU.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

The university had more than enough, if they wanted to get rid of Urban, they could of.

I’m not talking about the DV allegations, I’m talking about everything that came out about ZS and TH during the investigation. I feel if OSU wanted Urban gone, they could of concluded that he was a coach that didn’t monitor his program and failed to live up to OSU’s standards, or blah blah blah, whatever they would want to say to get rid of him.

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Dstacify's picture

There was no definitive proof of DV that was obtained in the investigation though. The most they could've fired Urban for is perhaps the reveal of him having his text messages from older than a year deleted from his phone but there's a lot of gray area there as is. Yes, they could've fired him for lack of institutional control perhaps but I think there's no question Urban would've sued OSU had they done that. After the fiasco that was Jim O'Brien the University wasn't going to risk exposing themselves to that kind of financial hit again. Being sued by two high-profile athletic coaches is a VERY bad look for any school and even more so if they lose both cases. It would've damaged OSU's reputation going forward and possibly made it difficult to hire quality coaches to replace Urban.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Were they ever able to determine whether Urban told the Athletic Department of ZS’s precious issues at Florida. I feel like if the university wanted to, that alone would of justified them firing Urban if they wanted him gone I think

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Dstacify's picture

I believe it was confirmed that Urban did not make Gene Smith aware of ZS's prior issues at Florida. I remember after the report was released Gene saying something along the lines of "Had I known about Zach's prior issues in 2009 I would've advised Urban against hiring him." IIRC Meyer justified that by saying that Zach had been with two other employers (Temple and Marshall) prior to coming to OSU and had done good work there without incident so that was why he kept Gene out of the loop on that. It was a rather stupid gamble to assume that Zach would never have any re-surfacing issues like that but that's what happened.

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TeddyKGB's picture

If they had fired Urban, there would have been hell to pay from the fanbase and donors.  It would have been a completely gutless move, capitulating to the outrage mob.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

In this hypothetical, Urban would of been a .500 coach, and nobody would of cared.

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Dstacify's picture

At OSU if Urban was a .500 coach he would've been gone after year 2 for no reasons pertaining to ZS. Had he lasted longer and continued to lose the campus probably would've rioted. Obtaining a below .500 record at Maryland is more forgivable because they don't have the recruiting prowess or brand recognition there that OSU has. That's the difference. No coach is going to last long at OSU with a .500 record, nobody around this program has that kind of patience. Had Tressel had another record similar to his 7-5 record during his first season at OSU in 2002 instead of going 14-0 he would've immediately been on the hot seat going into year 3.

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BtownBuckeye's picture

That sounds like something the media would say..

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rkylet83's picture

If Urban Meyer were a .500 coach he would coach here scandal or no scandal.  

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linepilot15's picture

Same here. I'm glad the OP gave an outline of what it was about so I didn't have to give them any clicks.

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LCT's picture

The Failing Washington Post

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Ohio State University President Jim Tressel

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LCT's picture

That's a good one too.

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aledyard's picture

Aside from the New York Tines, the WP is probably the most respected paper in the country.   

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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Wargor's picture

It certainly engenders strong emotion.  Sadly we've devolved to the point where each camp has its preferred news sources and the other side's sources are garbage.  Rarely do things work in such a black and white way in the world, but it sure is comforting to place things in neat boxes and stop thinking about them.  Then we can signal our hot-takes with cute insults like Wapoo and Faux News.  

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KCAlum's picture

Yeah, but when we have a better idea of what happened, and we see clear misrepresentation in this "story" or Op ed, or whatever they want to call it, it is just more than "each side has its own preferences"

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aledyard's picture

The article is an opinion piece or column.  All media outlets do this and clearly distinguish these types of articles from fact-based, news articles.  Opinion pieces represent the views of the author and not the paper.  It's fine that you don't like this article, but you shouldn't then make a generalization about the WP based on this piece, or any group of opinion pieces for that matter.  

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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TheBadOwl's picture

Sadly we've devolved to the point where each camp has its preferred news sources and the other side's sources are garbage.

Yup. The editorial standards/processes, history with breaking big stories and willingness to issue clear and prominent retractions when inaccuracies do make it through (as is inevitable) is how we should judge news outlets.

Instead, people seem insistent that the validity of news depends entirely on how much it reaffirms their worldview. 

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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LCT's picture

Journalism is the only industry in which blame for lack of trust in providers & institutions is assigned to consumers. Why is that?

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Buckeye1996's picture

Now that is an intelligent and insightful observations.

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BigWillRIP's picture

You know the guy that owns the WP is the richest man in the world and just fleeced the tax payers of NYC and N VA, right?  Not hard to come to the conclusion that the WP is an arm of his PR and is written with a lot of influence and persuasion.

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aledyard's picture

While I agree that the Amazon gig for NVA and NYC may cause a few headaches, etc. that have been experienced by Seattle, I disagree that Bezos exercises any type of influence over how the news is reported at the WP.  

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TheBadOwl's picture

By all accounts, Bezos is actually very hands-off when it comes to the Washington Post. The Post is also very clear when reporting on Amazon-related topics that their paper does have a business connection (as CNN does whenever reporting on Turner/Time Warner).

As for Bezos himself, I think it's funny how people on both sides of the political aisle absolutely hate the guy for entirely different reasons. 

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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buckinmich's picture

The New York Tines?   The Washington Post is probably the most respected paper in the country?  By who?  Liberals?  If Jeff Bezos wasn't propping it up with his billions, it would have gone under.  Now, it's just a liberal's play thing.

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aledyard's picture

Coincidence or not, the WP and NYT have been recording record subscription revenues since 45 took office.  As far as being respected, the NYT has the most Pulitzer prize winners with 109, the WP is second with 57.  

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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bbb's picture

Don't bring your dumb politics into this, asshole

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dwcbuckeye's picture

That is Bezo's fake news hit squad organization. Trust nothing

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mr.green's picture

The Post has a lot of readers. To dismiss them all would be unwise. 

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BUCKfutter's picture

more like wapoo amirite

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

You're not wrong

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Dstacify's picture

I read that article. It does kind of redeem itself at the end by saying that it's unfair to compare both situations (which it is, a player DIED under Durkin's watch). But they still throw the domestic abuse word around carelessly while conveniently forgetting that Urban wasn't fired because there was no proof of DV on ZS's part outside of CS's word (and there still isn't). Urban was suspended for ZS being a shitty employee and behaving in an inappropriate manner on the job for far too long. Proof of DV was not found in the investigation. The whole "Urban harbored a domestic abuser" narrative is just what they're running with because it fits their agenda. If there was any credibility whatsoever to McMurphy's latest story it would be "Urban Meyer harbored a racist/domestic abuser..." instead. There's no winning with these people. Controversy is what sells the news nowadays.

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SackMan's picture

"Its is unfair to compare both situations, but I am going to do it anyway because i am a Maryland homer and can use my public outreach as a mouthpiece to smear someone anyway." --Barry Svrluga 

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Something about a first stone being thrown?....

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

The controversies that enveloped Maryland and Ohio State this season sprang from wholly different circumstances, and at some level, it’s unfair to compare them. What’s not unfair to conclude: Winning makes loose morals and truth-bending permissible. Losing simply makes justice more convenient.

Moving from an indefensible comparison to a generic, meaningless moral finger-wag in one paragraph. Nice.  

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BuckeyeJay's picture

We're gonna do this now? We are gonna compare Urban to a guy who had a kid die under his direct watch? 

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daveyt11's picture

Thats just like my dog Sullie LOL

Unless you throw food at her, forget about it

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kmp10's picture

The Washington Post is no better than Huffington Post. It's a shill for one side of the fence. Both sides have unbalanced entities that try to lure the reasonable among us, i.e., those in the middle, to one side or the other, and the WP is absolutely one of them. Speaking out strongly against someone or something about which you know very little while using your media platform to do nothing more than opine is what 'journalism' in America has devolved into. It's one of the most pathetic, cowardly careers a man can choose... writing uninformed opinions from the safety of an office while lambasting those who actually do what it is you only write about.

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mr.green's picture

So you read the Post regularly, because you certainly know a lot about them. Or are you doing exactly what you accuse them of doing — writing about something you know nothing about? 

See, it works both ways.   you shouldn’t go there if you are just repeating the group speak   

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Turban Meyer's picture

This is great guys, let's please keep this discussion going. 

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Skunk bear blood's picture

To put it politely.. don't care what the Washington Post....post

OFFS

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ApollosGYRO's picture

This is sadly what journalism has come to nowadays...

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cricejr's picture

Op/eds aren't journalism.

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kmp10's picture

Yes, Op-eds are. Editors, editorialists, photojournalists, editorial cartoonists, reporters... they all fall under the umbrella of 'journalism,' and the vast majority do nothing more than to drive their personal agendas using their media platform. 

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O H Y O's picture

Lol, the journalist clowns at WP most likely had this story in their back pocket all year waiting for week 12 of the College Football schedule. Salivating waiting for the perfect moment for when tOSU and their head coach Satan himself comes to town. If you couldn't tell I really am not fond of most journalists. 

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

The Post has this filed under "Colleges: Perspectives", therefore, it's not fact and it's not news. It's an Op/Ed piece.

Hover your cursor over the word "Perspectives" on the page that carries the article. This is the text that appears:

Perspective: Discussion of news topics with a point of view, including narratives by individuals regarding their own experiences.

In one sentence you get "discussion", "a point of view", "narratives", "individuals", and "their own experiences." This is a euphemism for, "I'm about to go on a completely biased rant based on my own personal views and interpretations of a recent newsworthy event."

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Wargor's picture

Shhh....you'll interrupt all those who are getting triggered by the term: "Washington Post"

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Byaaaahhh's picture

My point of view is that this writer sucks. 

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EnonBuck79's picture

Op/Ed pieces are what my dog likes to dump on...and I don't even have a dog.

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Earle's picture

Wow, they are really behind the curve.  Everyone knows that Urban is a racist now.  Somebody should write a story about that.

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McBane's picture

I thought it was going to be a new hit piece about how Urban likes Cleveland Steamers...

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QuercusAlba's picture

What all are we missing from the buzzword list now? 

- Sexist
- Racist
- Bigot
- Homophobe
- Xenophobe
- Cis-priviliged

Missing any?

"I say let us give them all they want; not a word of argument, not a sign of let up, no cave in till we are whipped or they are."
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QuercusAlba's picture

The suffix -phobe implies fear of something. I ain't afraid of them. Concerned about our chances this year? Yeah. But fearful? Never.

"I say let us give them all they want; not a word of argument, not a sign of let up, no cave in till we are whipped or they are."
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BrutusB's picture

I mean, they got you to not only read it, but to then share the link with a bunch of other people.  That was kinda the goal.

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cricejr's picture

I'm simply not going to reduce myself to juvenile name calling of a newspaper.  What happened was unfortunate and there are going to be opinions on both sides of it.  It's just weird that this just comes out of the blue for no reason other than seemingly being clickbait, of which man Ohio State fans clasp onto like walleye instead of just not reading it.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Article about DJ Durkin? Meh. But if I can pull Urban Meyer and OSU into it...

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mr.green's picture

I can see why it seems like that because the Post is a national paper. But the Post is also Maryland’s local paper. The Buckeyes are playing the local team. That’s a reason for a columnist to write about the teams. This is an angle for that. Not out if the blue. 

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BroJim's picture

Didn’t they want to keep their coach too??

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Dstacify's picture

The administration did. The players and fans, not so much. That's why they backtracked on the decision almost immediately after they made it. That makes the way Drake and Co. poorly handled the press conference with Meyer this year look like child's play in terms of fuck ups. I wouldn't be shocked if Durkin tries to sue the University of Maryland now for firing him after previously agreeing to his reinstatement. I would think Wallace Loh and Damon Evans should both be following Durkin swiftly out the door in this fiasco.

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LW O-H's picture

Hanging over that entire meeting: Guys, he’s winning 90 percent of his games here.

 Svlanglia or whatever his name is, was saying this was the thoughts of everyone in the committee. So now he is not only a (supposedly) reporter. But a Soothsayer? Wow, the Washington Post is very fortunate to have a reporter who will be able to say what every person is thinking while investigating.

 GO BUCKS!!

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elitesmithie's picture

Professional Journalist commits fakes news

Professional Journalists dumbfounded by being accused of creating fake news and click bait

Story of 2018....

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Dweinz's picture

writing an opinion piece isn't fake news. it's that one writer's opinion.

people using the term fake news for things they don't like is the story of 2018

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Wargor's picture

Wait, wait, wait...Are you saying that this was an Op/Ed?  And people just jumped to a conclusion based on their pre-conceived notions without doing basic checking to see if that was the case?  Sounds a lot like people hearing the term, "Domestic Abuse" and immediately rushing to convict a football coach in the court of public opinion without doing a bit of digging to get to some of the underlying facts.  Good thing Ohio State fans have learned better.

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LCT's picture

In my opinion, swiss cheese doesn't have holes in it.

It's my opinion, man.

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Dweinz's picture

alright, that's your opinion. it's still not fake news

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LCT's picture

If I say swiss cheese doesn't have holes in it and call it my opinion that makes it not fake news?

New opinion: we wasted Purdue

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Ohio State University President Jim Tressel

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Dweinz's picture

again, that's an incorrect opinion. not meant to be in a factual piece - but your opinion. that isn't fake news.

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LCT's picture

"incorrect opinion"

? I wasn't aware there was such a thing.

Another opinion: we clobbered LSU in 2007

EDIT: I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm saying that labeling something that's not true "opinion" doesn't work because true/false applies to facts alone. Opinions can't be proved or disproved.

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Dweinz's picture

I'm not trying to be a prick

lol, alright LCT

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LCT's picture

What about the rest of it? You see what I'm saying or was that a big waste of time? If the latter, that's OK. My time isn't really that valuable at 4:15 on a Friday.

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Dweinz's picture

alright, help me out - what is your definition of fake news

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LCT's picture

I would say fake news is any time an untrue or unverifiable claim is presented as true or verified. Is that fair?

By this standard, "Urban Meyer sheltered a domestic abuser" is fake news. Note: I'm no defender of Urban Meyer's in all this. My "Fire Urban Meyer" thread back in August lasted about four minutes.

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Earle's picture

It's so effortless...

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Wargor's picture

The difference is that it is an Op/Ed.  It isn't claiming to be news, and as such isn't something that should be legitimately termed fake news.  That term has been over-used and bastardized to the point that people are using it for all of that which they don't agree with.  At least to me (heh, my opinion) fake news is a made up story that is actively being put out as fact.  If an official was to claim that millions voted fraudulently, offer no proof, and it was widely reported on, that would be fake news.  Creating stories out of whole cloth and pushing them out to the web and other media is fake news.  Someone's clearly labeled opinion piece doesn't rise to that level.

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LCT's picture

In my view the Ohio State Basketball Buckeyes are a lock for the NCAA tournament thanks to the gritty veteran leadership of Greg Oden & Jerry Lucas. Column forthcoming, on the opinion page of The LCT Times.

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Ohio State University President Jim Tressel

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Wargor's picture

So I can't judge the journalistic integrity of all of 11warriors by LCT's wrongheaded notions about dairy products? *

*  Turns out the term "blind swiss cheese" offers an interesting bit of information about hole creation and a flury of 2015 stories about scientists figuring out what was causing the holes.

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TeddyKGB's picture

That's part of the problem.  Every journalist wants glory, to be an opinion writer.  I want the news. I don't give a fuck about their opinions.

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Dweinz's picture

then don't read the op/ed section?

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TeddyKGB's picture

Go to that article and tell us what illustrates it to be an opinion piece or the op/ed section.  It is in the Sports section and he is identified as a Sports Columnist.

 

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Wargor's picture

From NavyBuckeye:

The Post has this filed under "Colleges: Perspectives", therefore, it's not fact and it's not news. It's an Op/Ed piece.

Hover your cursor over the word "Perspectives" on the page that carries the article. This is the text that appears:

Perspective: Discussion of news topics with a point of view, including narratives by individuals regarding their own experiences.

In one sentence you get "discussion", "a point of view", "narratives", "individuals", and "their own experiences." This is a euphemism for, "I'm about to go on a completely biased rant based on my own personal views and interpretations of a recent newsworthy event."

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Dweinz's picture

Well yeah, but other than that how could we possibly know 

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

I want the news. I don't give a fuck about their opinions.

This.

I want the facts, and only the facts. I don't want the journalists thoughts on those facts or even what the facts might mean, and I sure as hell don't want to be told how I should feel / what I should think about those facts.

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Thedrw's picture

I want the facts, and only the facts

...he said as he opined on someone else's opinion. 

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NCBuck1's picture

Exactly! If we wanted their opinion we'd go out and buy an "opinion paper" or go to their "opinion site".  This is why newspapers are failing.

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Wargor's picture

I think it has more to do with the television and internet than opinions in the paper.  Journalism has been slanted at various papers in this country since its inception.  Slanted, opinion oriented journalism helped propel us into being a colonial power more than 100 years ago.  If opinions were a circulation problem in print journalism newspapers would have failed a long time ago.

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Thedrw's picture

This is why newspapers are failing.

Because newspapers never published opinions before the internet? 

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kmp10's picture

Opinion pieces and those writing them reflect the 'flavor' of the media outlet for which they're working. It's no secret that outlets like Washington Post, CNN, Huffington Post, ESPN, NBC, and YAHOO News are left to FAR left-leaning media outlets, just like The Wall Street Journal, The Economist, The Hill, and Fox News are right to FAR right-leaning outlets. Editorials reflect the philosophy of a newspaper, and many Op-ed pieces do as well. If you (not you specifically, Dweinz) can't see/admit/recognize that 'news' coming out of the aforementioned outlets is blatantly slanted to fit their side's narrative and does nothing more than confirm one's established opinions, then I'd say you're being obtuse. 

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Keze's picture

piss on those snowflakes.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Really seems like a chance to cash in on the OSU clicks articles like this most certainly generate.

This isn't quite as bad as Sports by McBrooksphy but its what it is-an op ed. 

Opinions are like....

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Bigmarty's picture

Most would not distinguish a op/ed and a researched story.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

Just like the NYTimes, the Washing Post ceased being a respectable source of news years ago.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

And yes, I"m well aware that this was an op/ed. If I'm not going to read a publication's "legitimate" news articles because they presume to tell me what/how I should think about something, why the hell would I want to read their op/eds?

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OhioAgainstTheWorld34's picture

Who downvotes Anna Kendrick? I don't care what political bias you have... You don't downvote an Anna Kendrick GIF.  Also, FWIW and it isn't much at that, my two cents.... The media in general gives too much opinion and not enough fact... I was in Canes the other night and they had CNN on, I literally wanted to throw up the two tenders I had already eaten when I looked up and caught a few minutes of their so called news.

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erniefurgler's picture

Employing an immature asshole & having someone die under your watch are in two different categories.  If the coaching roles were reversed, i would expect the same outcome...although the media would press for Urbs to be tried for involuntary manslaughter.

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BuckAlum09's picture

You know what I hate??

Almond joys... How is the demand high enough that these things remain in production?

"...and when we win the game, we'll buy a keg of booze. And we'll drink to old Ohio till we wobble in our shoes."

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LCT's picture

What don't you like about them?

What about Mounds?

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Ohio State University President Jim Tressel

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Wargor's picture

It isn't.  It's a government plot to prop up the almond manufacturers.  Everyone knows California is the #1 almond producer, and for decades they've been using their outsized economic influence to lobby for price controls and production quotas on Almond Joys and other almond foods.  Almond Milk anyone?!?  People don't know about it because Swartzenegger had an in with the Kennedys and they've kept it quiet all these years.

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osu_killernuts's picture

I have nothing good to say, so I will refrain from response.

No such thing as a bad win

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Wargor's picture

This post is so meta.  1.  You did respond and 2.  It was something good to say.  But only by saying you had nothing good to say did it become good to say.  

Ugh...my head esplodes

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toad1204's picture

Here's a story worth following.

The offseason is the longest season.

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LCT's picture

^obvious Rickroll attempt. Gonna click anyway.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 9-1, C 8-0, T 5-0
Ohio State University President Jim Tressel

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cledaybuck's picture

The thing is, his underlying conclusion isn't wrong.

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Buckaroo Banzai's picture

To Mr. Zach Smith:

Please be advised that Mr. Barry Svrluga reported, and the Washington Post published, the following:

If you win, you can harbor a domestic abuser on your staff and lie publicly about it.

Now, I might not be an attorney, although, actually I am, but in the absence of a civil or criminal court ruling finding you liable for or guilty of "domestic abuse" this kinda a lotta looks like libel per se.

Bobbing for french fries.

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elitesmithie's picture

Its cool, its under opinion so they can say whatever they want with no backlash

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buckeyenut74's picture

Frankly, I’m surprised Meyer even talks to the media at this point. He is better than I would be, I would tell them to stick it. 

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Not_Sure's picture

I’ll talk to the media for Urban, as long as I get at least half of his media pay. All my responses will be, “Urban has no comment about that.”

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BuckIDave's picture

There's a whole bunch of media types who just need to get over the "Urban thing" and pay less attention to their rear view mirror.

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buckeyewalt's picture

The credible Washington Post...  NOT!

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OSU56's picture

^uck the washington post- another headliner for clicks.....their as creditable as stadium.

Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.

 

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Art Harrell's picture

Once again I'm late to party...to start with FUCK YOU WASHINGTON POST...but thanks for the 99 cent offer to read your " I have a hard on for Coach Urban Meyer " newspaper for a year. But stick it up your ass.....Fuck Washington Post once again ...beat that horse...Go Coach Meyer...Go Bucks...

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

The conversations are going down rabbit holes that have nothing to do with the story, and there’s been more than enough commenting violations for one night. 

Shutting this down. This is why we have the no politics, no hot button social issues rule, folks. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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