Do You Care About the NBA?

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LCT's picture

Heh. Yep, same here.

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BuckeyeIn NY's picture

I'll be honest.  I am a fair weather Cavs fan.  Growing up in the early 90's, I was a huge fan of the Cavs back then.  The likes of Mark Price, Larry Nance, Hot Rod Williams, Brad Daugherty...etc. 

Then I regained interest during the Lebron years.  Now that that has come to an end, I have little to no interest.  

Can't tell you the last time I watched an NBA game that the Cavs weren't playing.  Probably 25 plus years.  

Ring the f**king bell, you pansy

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Silver Sniper's picture

What you wrote literally describes me as well, word for word. 

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

I watched the Cavs when Lebron was around.

Now I doubt I'll watch a basketball game until the conference finals and finals and even then it'll be on so late that I'd imagine I'll check out part way through the 2nd quarter.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

I don’t watch the NBA.  They moved to an individual star system a long time ago, and it turned me off.

As far as the nationally televised games (in particular Sunday), without looking @ the TV guide, I can often guess who’ll be playing from among the same 5 or 6 teams.

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RubixTube's picture

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BrewstersMillions's picture

That's what TV Ratings say too

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

Nope, terrible product these days.

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0H-10's picture

NBA- Nope.

NFL- Nope. 

WWE- Nope.

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LCT's picture

WWE is a good add here.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

If someone came off the top rope onto Draymond Green, I may change my answer.

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LCT's picture

Steel chair too.

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SaltyD0gg's picture

Likes

Cable

Theatrics

Pain of Discipline

Pain of Regret

Take Your Pick

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0H-10's picture

I might do PPV for that...for sure if it was Sully in a lucha libre mask and cape!

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BuckeyeSki's picture

WWE- Nope.

Leave one wolf alive....and the sheep are never safe

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Il_Padrino's picture

AMEN to all of that.

Living the life!  Go Buckeyes!  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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NOLABuckeye's picture

Nope.

Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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cdub4's picture

I watch the NBA. I don't know...I think the athletes are phenomenal, some of the best on the planet. I watch NBA over CBB. Just a higher caliber of player.

Sports wise I watch primarily MLB, CFB and NBA. Then CBB and if I am really bored NFL.

I always think its is interesting that usually when topics like this come up regarding the NBA, especially on 11W, most of the commentariat doesnt watch, yet NBA ratings are steadily increasing. Maybr the 11W demographics and NBA fan demographics are really different.

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LCT's picture

Yeah....I agree. The CFB & NBA demos seem to have very little overlap.

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Bosco Baracus's picture

I agree. I really enjoy the NBA. I’m a Cavs fan but at this point would rather watch 2 good teams play then watch the Cavs. 

I like college basketball and will watch it but never understood why anyone liked it better than the NBA. For example the OSU vs Cincy game. Entertaining game but the offense is atrocious. Good defense but the lack of offensive skill has a lot to do with it. 

And the officiating... it’s infuriating how bad college refs are. They have no clue how to call anything in the lane. Always assuming there’s a foul. The NCAA should go to 6 fouls to foul out instead of 5. Watching Sullinger and Oden play and knowing at some point the refs would take them out of the game for bad calls ruined it.  

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infantrybuck's picture

The ratings increase in bigger markets which is all they care about. I personally quit on the NBA and MLB because of both the leagues lack a real salary cap and also a policy of unrestricted free agency. both of which give every team at least a fair opportunity to keep the top end talent they draft.  Instead you just see the big markets of LA, Boston, NYC, Bay Area, and Chicago overpaying for super teams. Small market teams don’t have a chance 

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BrutusB's picture

Lack of salary cap isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be.  In baseball the Yankees have all the money in the world and have just one title since 2000 (and their run before that was with homegrown guys).  In the last 10 years there have been eight different champs.  That's really good parity.

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shawn kemps kids's picture

I just saw that Draymond Green says there's "no way" Durant returns to Golden State next year after they got into a fight. Uh, what? That seems like huge news....it happened 3 days ago. Did anyone know this? Does anyone give a damn?

That's like Jordan and Horace Grant getting into a fight, then Horace Grant says Jordan's leaving. That would have been a sports earthquake.

Nah, it's nothing like that. Jordan was/is the epitome of alpha male. Kevin Durant may not be an actual beta male, but he's pretty damn close to it. He's shown time and time again he lets his feelings get hurt and acts like a baby about it. I wouldn't be shocked at all if he left because of their argument. 

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LCT's picture

So would it be more like Grant & Pippen scuffling?

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Hondo's picture

More like Rick Mahorn and Kelly Tripucka.

The Browns are no longer the worst franchise in all of professional sport.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

Kevin Durant may not be an actual beta male, but he's pretty damn close to it. 

Beta?  More like Delta or Echo.  He is the softest pro athlete I have ever seen.

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I am Kirok's picture

Agreed. Dude is so soft Jim Rome is calling him "Chris"

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Dstacify's picture

In this particular case Draymond is the alpha male. KD is just an overall better player than Draymond and there's no doubt in my mind that pisses Draymond off a bit. Couple with Durant's tendency to have unrealistically high opinions of his abilities (dude actually thinks he's better than LeBron for God's sake) and things are just now all coming to a head. I'm surprised it took until year 3 for this to happen since Durant got to GS.

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EnonBuck79's picture

Here on the east coast I'm 3 days behind on what happens on the west coast...
Most high profile NBA games happen when I'm already in bed especially now that almost all the championship quality teams are in the West. Don't care for the NBA enough to lose sleep.

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keith7456's picture

Nope. I only pay attention to College Football, Ohio State basketball, and MLB(getting harder and harder every year to watch).

Professional sports in general are garbage. Just a bunch a babies crying that tens of millions of dollars isn't enough to live on. When someone turns down a $300 million contract(Bryce Harper) there is something wrong with the system.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Basic economics but sure, whatever. You should get paid what you are worth for your unique skills. Harper feels (and will be proven right) that he is worth more than 300M, OR will be at a place he wants to play. He's keeping his options open, sorry you are so bitter about the money he makes.

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keith7456's picture

There is not a single person on the planet that is "worth" $300 million. 

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

Lebron James was worth that to Dan Gilbert, and then some.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Tell that to the people that pay people that much money over several years.

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keith7456's picture

I do in my own way(doesn't mean much to them) by not spending my time and money watching/buying their product.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

I respect that Keith.

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CincyBuck's picture

Really depends on your definition of "worth," I guess.  To me, by definition, if someone signs a contract for that amount, he/she is "worth" it because the market bears it.  If we're talking net "worth," there are numerous individuals.

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stxbuck's picture

Anytime an athlete signs a ridiculously huge contract, it is b/c an owner expects to make even more $$$ off the investment. If they are stuck w/ a white elephant-Albert Pujols, A-Rod-guess what-the market responds-athletes don't get stupid guaranteed $$$ on the back end of their careers. This is why we are seeing more 1 and 2 year FA contracts in the NFL-the players know 60% of that 5 year deal is fantasy $$, so why stick w/ the charade-sign again as a FA in 2 years w/ no contract baggage-they would have been cut for cap reasons anyway.

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IH8UOFM's picture

I had a large gap in my interest in the NBA. It went from Mark Price's Cleveland exit to this new rookie named LeBron James...then "The Decision" to "I'm coming home." My NBA interest got lost in transition somewhere between Cleveland and Los Angeles this past summer-I'm done.

Not even mad at LeBron and still like him but I can't watch this shit. I went to the Palace here when the Pistons took on the eventual Champion Cavs in the 1st round of the Playoffs with my son (for 20 bucks a ticket) and it will most likely be my first and only NBA game ever. We both enjoyed it, as well as the eventual results but man, shit is unwatchable now.

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LCT's picture

I grew up literally 10 minutes down the road from the Palace. Shocked that they shut that place down.

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IH8UOFM's picture

I currently live about 10 minutes from it. Told all my boys that my NBA attendance went from "rarely" to "never" when they closed it. Saw many great concerts there too. Closing a newer arena for no good reason like that sickened me.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

I went to one of the first events at the Palace in 1988 - Def Leppard.

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ApollosGYRO's picture

I have followed the NBA for about 15 years and GS I have so much hatred towards. Curry with his cockiness, Durant jumping from OKC to a 73-9 team is a weak move, Green is a cocky trash talking dbag, Cousins pulled a Durant and took a massive pay cut to win a ring, and Kerr has a very punch able face. The only player I can tolerate is Klay as he doesn't run his mouth even tho his face resembles that of Squidward's house. Then sprinkle in a terrible bandwagon fan base that has 0 knowledge of basketball (similar to Heat fans w/ LeBron) and I cannot wait to see this organization crumble. I hate GS and this is major news and I hope this gets worse for them.

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0H-10's picture

+1 for the whole take...but an extra 1000 for Squidward's house

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LCT's picture

That's some Fire right there (Apollo's take). Love it.

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Hovenaut's picture

Clowns to the left of me, Wizards to the right.

Here I am, stuck in the middle with this.

Negative, ghost rider.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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RK84's picture

Durant makes Draymond look like he's the good guy. You know how ridiculous that is. Durant is a glory chasing bum.

I cant beat GSW, and they can beat LBJ, so I'm going there. Loser.

Also I don't watch it like I did, but can tell you I don't think LBJ's move to LA had as much to do with basketball as it did with his aspiring media career.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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0H-10's picture

When MJ, Magic, Bird, Malone, Jabbar, all those guys played, it was still a battle for every point and rebound. It's nothing but 'amusement' now...and that literally means putting your mind in neutral and staring stupidly...I have limited brain cells left for those preferred moments of staring stupidly.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

LeBron did it.

Garnett did it.

Rodman did it.

Allen Did it.

Bosh did it.

Shaq did it.

Malone tried to do it.

See where I'm going?

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

How many of those players took a pay cut in their prime to run to the team that lost the finals the previous season?  The same team that knocked them out of the playoffs?  Aging players moving around to get a ring isn't uncommon, Superstars in their prime doing it is a whole different thing.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Why is going to a better place for a chance for the highest level of success a bad thing? How is it any different than a guy going from bad company A to better company B ?

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

Bad thing is kind of a grey area.  He didn't do anything wrong, morally or otherwise.  He just took the easy way out, which the competitor in me disagrees with.  His perogative, just not a move I can respect.  I bet he wipes his ass with what I think though, so he'll be fine.

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RK84's picture

Sure, let me rephrase, I don't like Durant. I actually enjoy watching GSW, great players, well coached, fun offense.

I think he's a douche, between, taking the easy way out, his twitter burners, and just his general attitude, I don't like the guy.

Just my opinion though.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

I don't like the guy.

I applaud this for what its worth. You aren't hiding behind some thinly veiled criticism, you are coming right out and saying how you feel about the dude. I'm 100% on board. I like him, you don't but you are big enough to admit where your dislike stems from.

+1

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RK84's picture

Cool with me, thanks.

Funny thing is I hated Draymond, until I watched him on The Shop, he's kind of changed my mind. I see where he comes from now. Maybe Durant could do the same at some point. He is one of the top players in the league and probably a top 10 all time guy. Some guys you just don't like.

Growing up I couldn't stand Karl Malone, but loved Barkley same type of game, same types of success, same type of players, just didn't like Malone at all.

Also hated Kobe, but then I got a little older and started watching Kobe. He changed my mind about him.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

When I came to OSU in 2001, I met a future lifelong friend from Brooklyn, who was a huge Knicks fan. He and I got to the topic of MJ and I was floored to learn people hated Michael. Like here is the preeminent athlete of my formative years of my sports fandom and the dude did Space Jam. Like who wouldn't like him. Little did I know most people despised him. I really grew up in an MJ bubble in Chicago in the 90s. 

I've come to respect him far less as a person. Can't argue game, but by and large, Michael is a prick. Times change. 

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Hondo's picture

Michael might be a prick but how many GOATS aren't? It's a short list.

The Browns are no longer the worst franchise in all of professional sport.

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NHBuckeye's picture

WNBA > NBA.   Prolly.

Fields of Dreams

 

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Ok let's not get too carried away.

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0H-10's picture

Women | AVP Beach Volleyball > all of it.

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buckzilla1's picture

Hey Cancer! This ass kicking is brought to you by the Guernsey county mafia. Give it Hell 84!

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BrewstersMillions's picture

I don't know. "Don't care" is pretty strong for a guy who is pushing out about 1000 words thus far on this thread about how he doesn't care about the NBA.

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LCT's picture

Find me 1 of those 1,000 that indicate I have any awareness of what's going on in the NBA right now aside from Durant & Green getting into a fight. (In fairness I also know LeBron's doing movies & stuff now.)

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BrewstersMillions's picture

So you have LeBron, Durant, and Green awareness and took to 11W to put our your apathy toward a league to tell everyone how much you don't care about a league you are quite literally talking about.

Got it.

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LCT's picture

It seems you care a great deal about the NBA. I'm sorry to have affected you in this way. I meant no offense to watchers of pro basketball, it's just a time killer as I work on stuff this morning.

Decaf, homey.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Nah, I'm not a fan, I'll catch some marquee games from time to time and am not the bitter kind that hates on greatness like LeBron and KD,  but just pointing out the hilarity of threads like these when guys can't wait to rush and tell someone how little they care about something. If you miss the irony there, I can't help you.

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LCT's picture

It's a topic for discussion. That's what happens here. Jesus.

Irony is "I'm not a fan" after a bunch of Internet punches thrown. Nice work.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Its entire premise is flawed. If you don't care about something you don't talk about it. Or discuss it.

Which leads me to believe you do care enough about it to talk about it. Am I getting through to you?

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LCT's picture

: (

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

Am I getting through to you?

See: Policy, Commenting 

This is actually a good thread, IMO.  I see no need for the disdain.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

I came on too strong, went into troll mode.

LCT, I apologize for my antics.

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LCT's picture

Dude, no problem. No apology necessary.

Go Bucks, Michigan Sucks

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

All's well that ends well.  

High fives all around.

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buckzilla1's picture

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Cooper's picture

This thread is the complete opposite of how the world sees the NBA. It’s gaining in popularity, and for the past 30 years, it’s been the benchmark of culture in sports. I remember growing up cutting my socks as a kid so I could look like Allen Iverson when I played. Players have influenced so many people across the globe. The NBA is the closest league you can get to letting players be themselves. 

Now, I don’t watch it all that much because I just don’t have time anymore. But when I do have time, the Cavs give me an aneurysm. There is a lot of young talent to watch, but the Warriors have created a lot of apathy from people.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Always the voice of reason Cooper. 

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LCT's picture

No argument here. You're 100% right.

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hail2victors9's picture

I used to care enough to get somewhat excited around the final three rounds of the playoffs.  Anymore, I don't even care about The Finals.

My 7 year-old son had evaluations for basketball a couple of weekends ago.  He's never played before, so I was trying to explain the basics in our basement mini-session.  Then I decided to turn on the Wizards/Thunder game to reinforce the fundamentals.  Talk about a waste of time.  It's just a run and gun, "throw it up from anywhere" fest.  They didn't run any plays, there was no defense, and barely any passing. 

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!

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Bosco Baracus's picture

U definitely picked the wrong teams to watch if that’s what you were looking for. Wizards are a dumpster fire who should trade off their stars, especially Wall. Nobody will win with that guy.

i love watching OKC though. 

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jpfbucks01's picture

NO not at all

Have not watched even 5 minutes of a game in several years and have not watched a complete game since maybe the 80's

Frankly the league could fold and I wouldn't care 1 bit

And although I follow OSU hoops, I maybe see only parts of a handful of games each year on TV

I have not been to an OSU game in decades and went to a midnight madness when guys like Tom Brandewie were still playing and the last NBA game I attended was a the last home game of the old Charlotte Hornets as I got free tickets from a friend, that was in 2002 and before that it was a Cavs game back in Nov of 1995 and thats it

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Buckeyeinsc's picture

No

Fighting the good fight in SEC country. "Our honor defend"

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

No

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

NBA:

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bigtenspeed's picture

+1 for proper use of “I couldn’t care less”.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Underrated part of this thread. Good spot.

+1 seconded.

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keith7456's picture

That along with the improper use of literally are 2 things can make me very angry. LOL

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kmp10's picture

Not only do I not care about the NBA, I don't care about college basketball either... and like the OP, I used to be a huge basketball fan. It was never close to the equal of football for me, but I looked forward to the season. If basketball were to be outlawed today I wouldn't care. Far too much involvement in the game and the game's outcome by the refs, too many fouls for zero reason, FAR too many time outs... it's been ruined. 

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buckzilla1's picture

No defense, no traveling, no palming/carrying the ball, no boxing out, no thanks. I love Basketball.

Shorten the games to two minutes total. Start with an even score. Let the teams warm up for an hour before and have contests like free throws, dunks, half court shots, arm wrestling, plastic kiddie pool gold fish catching, apple bobbing and hot dog eating contests. Let the teams play the last two minutes and enforce the rules of basketball. It is the same thing.

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BuckeyeIn NY's picture

So, reading the comments and judging by my own history of NBA fandom, would people agree that the NBA is hugely popular among the younger generations, and the older generations, while may have been fans at a younger age, grow out of liking basketball? 

Obviously there are exceptions to this theory, but curious what others think? 

Ring the f**king bell, you pansy

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LCT's picture

I'd say generally that this is a good assessment.

A thread on the future of baseball could make for some good related reading.

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RK84's picture

I think the problem people run into with basketball unlike other sports is that older fans are unwilling to admit that another generation may be better than the previous.

People would rather argue toughness and desire and how its just not the same, rather than accept change and be able to still enjoy the game just maybe a little differently.

BTW if GSW played in the 90's we would have all loved them as much as loved the Bulls.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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0H-10's picture

I think just the opposite is true. The game is not played for passion and the honour of the sport anymore. It is all only about amu$ement. 

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RK84's picture

I wasn't talking about passion or honor. Sure the game is more like an AAU tournament now, its just different.

I think its doing a disservice to majority of the players to say they are only in it for amusement. Those guys still work their asses off. They do care, if they didn't you wouldn't see so much emotion after winning a championship.

I mean LeBron spends upwards of 2 mill a year on his body, diet, and training. That's not amusement that's dedication.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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0H-10's picture

That's why I put the $ in the middle of amusement...because Lebron is not about dedication to the sport as much as he is to making money playing an amusing game. His "dedication" is driven by $...IMO.

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kmp10's picture

I think the problem people run into with basketball unlike other sports is that older fans are unwilling to admit that another generation may be better than the previous.

There is no way, imo, that this generation's NBA is better / more entertaining than the 70s/80s NBA. The 80s NBA was a man's league... those guys were tough, and the physicality of the league back then makes the current NBA look like a girl's soccer league by comparison. The money, as it has in almost every professional sport, has ruined much of the experience. It's not personal for the players anymore, and the night in/night out motivation is lacking when the players are making an average of 6+ million per year in guaranteed money. When that weirdo Kyrie Irving sat out a game because of bed bugs in his hotel room, that was the final straw for me... and I was 98% out the door at that point anyway. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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LCT's picture

"When that weirdo Kyrie Irving sat out a game because of bed bugs in his hotel room"

Where the hell do NBA teams stay when they travel?

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RK84's picture

Ok so lets chat about that. Were the 90's better than say the 60's? Would fans of the 80's Celtics admit, the 90's Bulls were better? (We know they are) Can a Jordan fan say LeBron is on his level? I think its all relative to your era.

I don't particularly enjoy the NBA these days, for many of the reasons you list. I do think some of the players are better than their 80/90s counterparts. I'm a 90's kid so no one will ever touch those Bulls teams, hell I don't think a umber of the tops teams today could physically handle the Knicks of that time, but could those same Knicks handle the shear athleticism of the guys today? 

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kmp10's picture

We might be talking about two different things, RK. I have no idea whether or not the basketball played today is better than the basketball played in the 80s NBA. I'm saying the product in the 70s/80s/and even the 90s NBA was vastly superior to today's NBA product. I don't watch at all anymore, so I can't speak to the quality of basketball now Vs then, but a few years ago when I was still watching a little, the fan experience wasn't 1/100th what the 80s experience was... 76ers Vs Celtics, Dr J Vs Bird, Lakers Vs Celtics, Magic Vs Bird, Pistons Vs everyone in the East was a fist fight every night. The NBA back then had physicality reminiscent of the NHL, but with lots of scoring. Today... these guys are S O F T, relatively speaking, and they're spoiled rotten by the money. The money has changed everything, and not just in the NBA. On the PGA tour, guys who couldn't carry Nicklaus' jock strap are making 20 times what the greatest golfer who ever lived made over his 40 year career, and they don't even have to win anything to make the money. Just finish in the top 20 and you'll be wealthy beyond imagination. The NFL is the only major American sports league where the contracts aren't guaranteed, so those guys, generally speaking, still have incentive to perform on a weekly basis, and despite the peripheral distractions, it's still the best product in American professional sports... by a wide margin. 

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RK84's picture

Ahhh got ya. I too think the product isn't as good as it used to be.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

the older generations, while may have been fans at a younger age, grow out of liking basketball? 

I thoroughly enjoy college basketball, couldn't give a rat's ass about the NBA though (and never really have).

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RK84's picture

College basketball is fun. Zion and Co at Duke are really fun to watch, but they're pretty much pros anyway.

Holtman gives us a solid program to cheer for here and I couldn't be happier with that hire.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

Zion and Co at Duke are really fun to watch

I only enjoy watching Duke when they lose

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EnonBuck79's picture

I would say this is pretty spot on. Still watched NBA playoffs last year but definitely do not watch as much as I did when younger.
Seems it's tougher to find "heros" that are younger than you are.

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I'm generally aware of what's going on, but this time of year I'm just paying more attention to both football and the Blue Jackets. Individual regular season NBA games are not exactly must-see. 

I don't have objections to the NBA generally, but the dominance of Golden State and the success that malingering jackass Kawhi Leonard is having in Toronto ... let's just say this is probably not going to be one of the seasons I follow especially closely.

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mb5599's picture

Nope. Had to choose which sport to follow (per the wife's instructions).  used to watch the nba, nascar, nfl, pga, basically all sports all the time.  wife laid down the law and told me to pick one.  So i choose to sit on my ass all day saturday and watch college football.  nba was not even in the running for the final decision. 

Big B

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

My wife is very close to laying down the law as well. My choice as well will be college football, the best sport in the world. 

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

So i choose to sit on my ass all day saturday and watch college football.  nba was not even in the running for the final decision. 

I may or may not know a thing or two about a similar choice... 

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buckzilla1's picture

Shoulda went with Aussie Football on that one Mb. You coulda surfed the channels for hours.

Hey Cancer! This ass kicking is brought to you by the Guernsey county mafia. Give it Hell 84!

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mb5599's picture

The Mrs. is smart.  She would have figured it out and then me and the dog would have been in real trouble..................

Big B

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osu_killernuts's picture

Same here, but I got to pick three (and yes, she's a keeper)

No such thing as a bad win

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smith5568's picture

I bargained with the wife before even being married. Saturday's in the fall are mine to watch football, no questions asked. She can have the remainder, no questions asked. Works out extremely well, depending on the time of year we each have our trump card. Plus, she is more of a college basketball fan, so those games and March Madness are easier to catch.   

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mb5599's picture

kind of like a sports prenup.  i like it.  

Big B

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IHadToGoogleArchiesMiddleName's picture

Man, I'm going to go home and tell my husband how lucky he is that I love watching any and all sports with him. Might talk myself into a bigger Christmas present for this year haha

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Dstacify's picture

Honestly the Warriors fracturing and breaking apart would be the best thing that could happen for the NBA at this point. As long as they stay united they're going to win the next 3 NBA titles at minimum with this group, realistically no one else can compete with them. As far as the Draymond-Durant drama goes I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Draymond's teammates quietly dislike him. He seems like a pretty insufferable douchebag that they tolerate having around because he does his job for the team well.

But the Cavs aren't going to be good for the next 3 years minimum (and possibly longer than that if they draft poorly and waste their lottery picks which has been a common theme of Gilbert's drafting). For that reason the NBA's not going to draw a whole lot of attention from me for a few years.

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osu_killernuts's picture

Update: the Cavs get Zion Williamson in the 2019 draft and the rebuild starts

No such thing as a bad win

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ApollosGYRO's picture

"We aint tryin, till we get Zion"

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Dstacify's picture

I'd love that. But knowing the Cavs they'll pass on Zion for whoever is most likely to be the next Anthony Bennett. I still am salty about that (and Gilbert even wanted Oladipo instead and our idiot GM at the time overruled him).

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Byaaaahhh's picture

I pay mild attention to the Bulls and any big storylines in the NBA as a whole just to have conversation topics in the winter lol. 

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Il_Padrino's picture

NBA is garbage - they have rules but those don't apply (e.g. double dribbles, traveling, etc.) meanwhile it has zero content that I can appreciate at all.  I despise, strong word I know, the league.  Sadly it is a reflection of what a lot of professional sports are to me = void of anything of significance and certainly not worth my while to waste several solid hours of my life to watch a bunch of overpaid babies play with a ball... this goes for NBA and NFL with baseball not far behind.  I still love baseball but it is even getting harder to watch. 

Living the life!  Go Buckeyes!  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

1942, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 1970, 2002, 2014 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!

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BuckeyeLeaf88's picture

NBA is a joke just like the NFL.  It’s not fun to watch and it’s all fake.  Two leagues with no class.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

The officiating in the NFL this year has been suspect at best, they have a serious credibility problem.  Can't speak on the NBA, but I do see signs of the WCF Kings vs Lakers fiasco on the gridiron this season.

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FunkyWorm's picture

I was a huge fan during my childhood in the 90s and the 2000s but these days even though I watch a lot of games I am not as enthused as I used to be.  The whole players teaming up along with the game being defensively challenged lessens the excitement of the product IMO.  I do like watching the young talent develop though.  

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NorthCoastBias's picture

The product is as good as it's ever been but I couldn't give a fuck less. I'm not investing my time and energy into a league where I can tell you 90% of the playoff teams and the champion before the season even starts. As a Cavs fan, there's no reason for me to care. Hell, I've barely watched them this season. That's a big departure from my habits in the first post-James era. Used to rarely miss a game, even when they were garbage from 2010-11 to 2013-14. I kid you not, I still look back as fondly on some of the wins from that era as I do the last four.

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Frimmel's picture

No. I don't particularly care for basketball generally and find the NBA a disagreeable version of basketball. 

You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight. 

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jpfbucks01's picture

for me i have been broadly turned off to all sports including football for many years now

 think most sports have become corrupted and lack redeeming qualities anymore

Sso I dont watch NFL games unless I am with my dad and he has a Bengals game on. Have not watched a Super Bowl in over 7 years even

Stopped watching MLB games about 15 years ago and i have already noted my NBA lack of watching

The last one was probably the NHL which i quit watching about 5 years ago

So today it is only the Buckeyes and even then I have missed a handful of games over the past years, Like most of the MSU and PSU games and may miss the MD game Saturday

It simply does not hold my interest like it used to. Just 10 years ago I would go to a sports bar on Saturday and watch games for the entire day perhaps starting with the Noon kickoff and running til midnight on some days, rabid fan to say the least

My fandom keeps waning each year but i come back out of habit and if i had another "hobby" i may stop watching all together

I think when i moved to the Philippines in 2012 and watching games became a chore, most of my fandom dropped except i may the effort to watch Bucks football games.

But I have missed several games the last 4 years and as noted above i get closer to giving it up completely each year

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Worthington Buck's picture

Just a hunch, but I assume you would have gotten a VERY different answer on here to this question in July of 2016.

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jpfbucks01's picture

Maybe Worthington but not from me, I have not watched a single NBA final game since MJ quit playing, ie over 20 years and even then never watched a full game. I think the last full NBA finals game I watched was when Bird and Magic were still dueling each other

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Eph97's picture

I don't care about the NBA if the Cavs aren't doing well. 

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stxbuck's picture

I certainly don't care about it in a competitive sense. I will watch an interesting matchup for entertainment purposes if I am channel surfing and nothing interesting is on. I'm glad LeBron got a championship to Ohio, but I'm also glad I can stop acting like I care about the Cavs, now that he is in LA.

If I "root" for an NBA team it is the Utah Jazz-sort of a karmic thing-I got a piece of their merch by random coincidence, and the team is actually very good-especially w/ Donovan Mitchell, and Karl Malone had the right kind of hoops attitude back in the day, as opposed to the weirdo millenial-bro thing we see now!

If I had a Way-back Machine, I'd love to transport the current Golden State Warriors back to 1989 to play the Bad Boy Pistons, w/ 1989 officiating! Draymond Green would actually love it, but Steph Curry would run crying from the court in terror and his wife would try and save him on Instragram or something!

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wojodta's picture

It's probably my most hated sports league. Why? Regular season is too long. Postseason is too long. Too many teams get in the playoffs. Only like 2 or 3 teams have a legit shot to win. I grow tired of ESPN constantly advertising it. It never goes away. Soon as the finals are over, you got the draft, and then the summer league, and then there's free agency bullshit, and then there's preseason. It's never ending. There's no break from it. It's constantly shoved in my face all year long and that's why I hate it.

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LCT's picture

This Fire rivals Apollo's, so here's a +1.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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jamesrbrown322's picture

I used to, but the “Super Teams,” and now the Warriors, have really kinda made it no fun. I still marvel at LeBron, but when he’s not in Cleveland, I root for Conley. So...yeah not a whole lot to really enjoy anymore IMO.

"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln

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hetuck's picture

No and I remember the moment I stopped caring. It was when the 76ers coach told the team they were required to wear a coat and tie to every game or be fined $1000. A player - name has faded - pulled out his check book, wrote a check for $82K, and handed it to the coach. 

edit - It was Derrick Coleman. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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LCT's picture

The Great Derrick Coleman. Now there's a blast from the past.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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Keze's picture

No NBA or MLB for me. Millionaires playing a game just not watching. Used to watch when I was betting on them. You take away the betting and hardly anyone would watch.

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aabucks1996's picture

I will watch game 7 of the finals.  Only NBA worth watching is TNT show with Barkley, Smith, and Shaq.

You win with people

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peteypez's picture

I quit following the NBA when the players started controlling what guys will play together after free agency I see corruption in the officiating and I know I was a bookmaker for twenty years before online betting what the first and last five minutes of the game and it says it all

peteypez

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tcm1968's picture

Not watching the NBA. I'm sure I'll get sucked in come playoff time but right now the games are meaningless. No parity either really hurts. And the worst thing is for decades teams chased being the #1 seed. Now you see these teams ( even good ones) thinking let's just get into the playoffs and not chasing the #1 seed because they want a top 20 pick.... I don't ever remember Jordan taking a night off and I have never like Kobe but can say the same thing for him. Those dudes hated to lose. You just don't see that these days..

Not to mention basketball at all levels has the WORST officiating. 

Still watch plenty of college football and NFL because each week the games matter. Wish the NFL would do a better job with flex scheduling though... 3-4 weeks into a season it's pretty easy to tell you have some turd primetime games as the season moves on. Couple of weeks back Rams/Saints was a day game and we got stuck with Cowboys/Titans for MNF.... total joke..

Go Bucks!

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keith7456's picture

but but but the Cowboys are Americas Team and everybody wants to watch them everytime, it's not a big game if the Cowboys aren't playing.. It's the same as the Yankees/Red Sox in MLB. EVER SINGLE TIME they play each other it is the primetime game.

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OSU_Hammy's picture

Draymond Green is a big bitch that did get his ass kicked enough as a child.

Buckeye Til I Die

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Dillon G's picture

Not since looking at Jordan became a foul, yet he could (and did) travel, double dribble, and hand check.

#walkaway

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RK84's picture

Gotta be a bitter Cleveland fan.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Dillon G's picture

My favorite was back to back by Magic. Thanks anyway. Before Magic and Bird, the NBA had a lot of attendance problems. Meaning empty arenas. Jordan was schooled by Bird mostly, in the east. After the Pistons punched and clothes lined their way on top with the Jordan Rules, the league decided it wasn't good for business.

#walkaway

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RK84's picture

I was just messin around man, I don’t think there has been a more entertaining rivalry in the NBA since Bird and Magic. 

Youngins don’t realize just how good those two were.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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VanillaStache's picture

I was a big Cavs fan until Lebron made his Return. Couldn't do it after that. 

Lot's of people hate the NFL here....I really like it. NFL, CFB and MLB are the only ones I watch

"Let me quote the late great Cornel Sanders, I'm to drunk to taste this chicken"

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Damn that sucks. You missed a championship season. Maybe the only one Cleveland will ever have again

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VanillaStache's picture

Saw a whole city collectively grab their ankles after this guy ruined basketball in our city and pretend they didn't burn his jersey 4 years prior....that ain't my style. 

"Let me quote the late great Cornel Sanders, I'm to drunk to taste this chicken"

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BeatMeechigun's picture

No.

Loved the Bad Boy Pistons in the golden age of the NBA.  It was a team sport and team members were dedicated to one another and their team and had hated rivals.

The Jordan era (as much as I hated how good he was) was fun.  Pistons stunk, but I had interest in the Association rooting against whoever the Bulls played.

Once Jordan left, it fell apart.  He left such a gap that the NBA was desperate to find the "next Jordan".  Jordan was outstanding...but so were the Bulls!  It was still a team sport when he played.  Post-MJ the focus shifted so much to the individual - whether AI, Kobe, LeBron, whoever that the team part was lost.  When the Spurs and Pistons were successful it was considered boring basketball because they were so team focused.  The individual superstar issue has only gotten worse.  Not only is it still the focus, but now individuals create super teams (a practice so acceptable that even the ASG picked up the format).   Team/city loyalty is zero.  Could you imagine Bird and Isaiah leaving the Celtics and Pistons and their teammates because they wanted to form a super team in Charlotte?!  No way.  They were superstars but their teams were their identity. 

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tcm1968's picture

Well if the rumors are true what Green said to KD in the huddle then maybe the NBA has a chance to get interesting this season :) They got into the other night and now being reported Green said something to KD along the lines of "we were fine before you got here, and won championships before you got here, don't let the door hit you on the way out of town... and why wait... just leave"...

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BTBuckeye's picture

Nope. But thx for the Title LBJ. It was good for The City.

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ZekeWeberDobbins's picture

If KD joins the lakers then the balance of power will be restored in the NBA. GS vs HOU vs LA will be fun for the next 3 years then whoever comes out of the east has a punchers chance.

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JakeStevensIsSwag's picture

I used to. There was once a time when Championships weren't won before the season started and i blame Kevin Durant for that. Hopefully the league evens out sometime soon. I would barely watch regular season games but i was all about the playoffs. Not so much now.

If i could change my username, i would

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Seabass1974's picture

Basketball in general has become pretty hard to watch. Too much starting and stopping with weak calls only to not make a call on something obvious. Then they started to get into flopping and it really turns into soccer on hardwood. Also I'd like to add that the season is way, way to long just like for baseball. I don't even get interested in these two sports until we are down the stretch at the end of the season. I see some people get excited about a team having a 3 or 4 game win streak at the beginning of the season and I'm like "WTF, who gives a shit? Let me know after about 3/4ths of the season has gone by then get excited."

Compare this to CFB, where, when the season starts, it's pretty much the playoffs already. You lose one game and your fate is in the hands of others, lose 2 and you're out.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

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Sunny Buck's picture

Wow, a lot of comments. Everything has been said and I am late to the party but I'll contribute;

1) season too long

2) game too boring and predictable

3) See reasons 1 and 2

Not a fan. Surprised the league still exists.

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes

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Spivan's picture

Negative.

I was a huge fan, especially of Jordan when I was growing up.  It just isn't entertaining anymore.

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Madtown_Buckeye_16's picture

I'd love to chime in to this, it was mentioned earlier in the threads but I think there's a huge gap between college football and the NBA in terms of their fan bases. I get more enjoyment out of watching the NBA out of College Football tbh. If it's not OSU I have a hard time watching as I'm not really invested, but the other night I watched Lakers Trail Blazers even though I'm a fan of neither team. Would be happy to share my reasons why/get a conversation going. 

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boras's picture

I love the NBA, and with the new rules its a faster pace game. Love watching the young stars like Antetokounmpo, Oladipo, and Tatum. But my guy is Joe Ingles from Utah, that dude can hoop!!

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Madtown_Buckeye_16's picture

My man, let's make an NBA faction within 11W

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Bucktown 5.7x28's picture

NBA has been borderline unwatchable for me for many years. LeBron was must watch TV here in Cleveland but when he left the first time, I didn’t watch any pro games for a few years. When he came back I admit that I watched it. I watched pretty much only Cavs and didn’t care about the rest of the eastern conference or western conference. I knew he was gone after the trades of the ingrate Isaiah Thomas and underperforming Jae Crowder. When the Warriors got Durant, I really stopped caring. I knew the Cavs were cooked because they could never match the spending because of cap space. And I think I’ve watched a half of the Cavaliers this year. One half of one game. LOL- no interest. Football outside of watching the Browns is the same way. Just don’t care that much anymore. Money and off the field stuff has ruined it for me. No longer okay in fantasy leagues but I do play the parlay tickets “strictly for entertainment.” LOL 

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