Damn! I love it!
Long season, but DAMN!
Way to go young fellas.
I love the way the Basketbucks faced adversity in this game and how they have the “Us against the World” mentality. That will pay off.
I do want to see them overcome adversity more in the coming weeks before I really start to get excited.
Either way, proud of the Buckeyes tonight!
I let myself get excited after last night, the young guys look hungry, prepared and fearless. What I won't let myself do is change my own expectations. This is still a young team facing a difficult schedule, but I am thrilled with what I saw last night.
Great way to start the season! It's never too early to get a tough road win. That was fun to watch, and having Dakich on the call made it more entertaining, especially when he told the official that the UC kid flopped on the call against Muhammad. All in all, a damned fine Wednesday evening.
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
I know that this is going to sound very homerish, but DAMN, the refs sure made some ticky-tack foul calls against us but seemed to let UC play hard. Maybe aggressive teams get the calls, I don't know but Cincy sure did a lot of hacking and whacking that wasn't called. Then the big flop no call that was called a foul on Luther.
But - this young team overcame all and pulled out a win against a pretty good Bearcat team.
Great job BasketBucks!
What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!
The fouls in general I didn't mind, or I should say have come to expect. Save for the flop call, which was at a critical juncture in the game. But in general for foul calls you are going to have ticky tacky stuff and then no calls and makeup calls and so on. That's standard op in NCAA basketball.
However, what was NOT standard op was no less than 5 blatantly, indisputable, incontrovertible, objectively TERRIBLE out of bounds calls that went Cincy's way. I mean not 50/50 calls that are tough to really tell. Like right in the front of the ref, Cincy guy spikes the ball out of bound obvious. Those are big calls in my opinion. They are free possessions for the other team, essentially turnovers.
Throw in the BS quick trigger T and the missed goal tend in the first half and yeah that was a very one sided hack job of officiating.
I was wondering if anybody else saw that ...Every 50/50 out of bounds call went Cincy's way even with clear video evidence to the contrary. Pretty poorly officiated game in my opinion. I'm glad we were able to weather the "8 on 5" storm and pull out the victory in a hostile environment.
"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium."
I thought Indiana and Wisconsin had bad refs. They have nothing on those clowns last night! There should be an investigation.
You mean freshmen can play immediately and contribute?
I just talk about it, Holtmann actually does it.
What a beautiful way to spend a Wednesday evening! Thank you to the pundits for giving the guys a built in chip on their shoulders. Really, not a bad night for a team projected to be 8th in the Big Ten? I'm sure their shooting will improve when they aren't getting mugged every time they touch the ball.
"Bring back St John"
I watched the entire game on ESPN and really got anxious as the lead dropped from 16 points to 4 points towards the end of the game. However, watching Coach Holtmann staying calm and in command during those closing moments increased my confidence that the Buckeye team would retain the lead and that might have had a similar effect on this young Buckeye team. (Mentally, I compared Holtmann’s composure to Urban’s at the end of close football games, but won’t comment further on that.)
In any case, I feel really great that Holtmann is our coach and I’m confident that he will have the Buckeyes making regular appearances in the Big Dance.
Go Bucks. I’m looking forward to an exciting basketball season with even better years ahead.
I would love to see Holtmann get locked into a long term deal. WE NEED TO KEEP HIM.
He is. We signed him to an 8 year deal last year, and if I remember correctly the details in the contract almost completely lock him and OSU up with each other.
Yeah hes not going anywhere.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
That's great news. I was thinking the same thing last night -- he's super talented and I could see the blue bloods come after him if they were to have a vacancy.
I wouldn't worry about that. The OSU job is one of the best in the country. We pay top dollar have unbelievable facilities and a basically unlimited budget. We are also a to 15 program in any measure - # of wins, # of conference titles, # of Final Fours. It just so happens that our football program is off the charts good that people don't realize how good OSU's basketball history is - but basketball people understand it. Plus there has never been a case where a coach has left OSU for a better job. Just like in football every coach who has left here has done so not of his own volition - and that includes Gary Williams when he was encouraged to take the job at his alma mater instead of being fired.
Williams was no where close to being fired at osu. He later suggested, he should have stayed at osu, that it offered more opportunites overall. And that's with winning it all one year at his alma mater.
He was being investigated for misuse of university funds. So while he might not have been in immediate threat of being fired, the university administration made it very easy for him to leave and did not even make a token effort at retaining him. Yes OSU was in a much better situation than Maryland, always has been and still is today, but he was in a bad place personally with his wife leaving him, and his affair etc. so it was probably better for his health and OSU's image that he was allowed to leave quietly and go back to his alma mater.
Having a coach whose nervousness transferred to his teams caused us 2 national championships. Fred Taylor was good a a couple things, but he was terrible in tight situations and he hated recruiting. (Yes I know his players loved him, but most who saw those games could clearly see Taylor wilting.)
Thanks for the coverage, Colin & 11W staff!
Thots: i saw mistakes, i saw turnovers, i saw a couple 'out of controls', i saw some stretches of poor shot selection, i saw some not ready to shoot shots...
but i did not see: any "allowing".
The effort was very, very consistent throughout the game by ALL our players.
No players were 'out there'... 'getting minutes'. Each player 'made some plays', scored, and played some solid defense. I still think Cincy has the superior athletes... but it's not what you 'have', but what you show. We showed superior focus, effort, and defense... for 40 minutes, compared to Cincy, last night, at their house and their celebration.
The Buckeyes performed like a veteran, experienced team in overcoming the crowd, the refs, awful first half shooting, bigger & athletic Cincy team, several Cincy runs inspired by a raucous loud crowd, and their own mistakes.
This performance means we don't introduce any more basketball articles by regurgitating about our youth and inexperience and last year.
This team, this year, the first game, tells us little how this long, 30 game season will go... or end up.
What it does suggest to us fanatics, is that the players on this team, have EARNED our respect, and so has our coaching staff. When we falter or stumble... and it is 'likely' we will here & there, we need to remember what this team has EARNED, and first, encourage them to RECOVER!
Paraphrasing Yogi: when we come to a fork in the road...take it - the one this team has taken before us, last night! [aka 'leadership', not louder noises].
Excellent post, 68. You nailed it with the ‘allowing’ and ‘earned’ comments. Go Bucks!!
68, you hit the nail on the head with the Cincy team. They had better athletes, they played aggressive, angry and hard. But our young Buckeyes played with composure and hung on when they needed to.
And this young team should get better as the season progresses.
I'm going to throw this out there. With the storyline of almost a century passing since these schools played on a campus, the uncertainty of the youth on the team, and the effort this team showed....this was by far the best season opener that I can remember watching. Coming into the game I was thinking win or loss that this game was going to benefit the team going into the season. They surprised me a bit last night (although I'm with coach on needing a bigger sample size) in a great way. Once again there is a buzz being created in Columbus for the hoops team. Well done boys, and credit to all of the coaches for preparing this team for a fight. Also, special shoutout to little Dakich in the impressive suit.
Yep, this was an absolutely unique season opener and I was really worried that such a young team would have no idea what kind of hornet's nest they were walking into. UC has been waiting DECADES for this game, and you could tell that crowd was looking for any reason to explode. The way they handled it was better than I expected.
Amen! The crowd got really loud and I started to think "oh shit, here they come" and our guys hit a big shot to silence the crowd a few times.
Nice work Buckeyes!
That was very impressive last night. We all knew UC was going to "ugly the hell" out of that game and early on it felt like we might get smothered, but that changed when Holtmann gambled a bit and gave K Wesson a blow- that actually loosened things up a bit and got us on track offensively. Then when he came back he was much more effective because UC couldn't hang 3 guys on him. Then this young team withstood 2 furious second half rallies by the home team. After the first 16 point lead UC came storming back and cut it to angle digits. The Bucks didn't panic and methodically got the lead back up there. That last rally though was a bit troublesome. We saw 2 games last year where this ended up badly (Butler and Clemson) but thankfully that didn't happen last night. All in all a great win, especially for a season opener, in a road game that was off the charts bonkers. This is still a very young team, but they grew up a lot last night, and they know they can trust each other to get the job done. I still think they are going to take some lumps here and there and probably not have the same B1G position as last year, but they are going to be fun to watch and I'm a little more optimistic about this team being on the right side of the NCAAT bubble than I was before last night.
Solid win young Bucks! But can we beat Duke?
One game at a time BB. We take care of business the next 4.5 months and then we'll know more about your question.
"My aim, then, was to whip (TTUN), to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us." - William Tecumseh Sherman
This was a very good win in a hostile environment to start the season. I was very impressed and have good hope for the season.
I was highly impressed with Kyle Youngs performance. . . highly focused and very composed. Great job young man in your first start!
Offensive execution - C (hit some big/tough shots, but struggled to get into the offense and generate good looks. Some of this is to be expected given our inexperience and something that should improve as the season goes on)
Defensive execution - C+ (the first half, Cinci missed quite a few point blank opportunities and open looks. The second half, we let their best player go off. He hit some tough shots, but we have to do better to prevent that from happening)
Intensity and effort - A+ (while we were lacking in execution, we never lacked effort and every person that stepped on the floor played their butts off every minute they were out there)
Composure - A (made a few silly mistakes, but in a hostile environment with a team that really applied pressure, we maintained our focus and rose to the occasion. Muhammad and Washington really handled themselves well for frosh as did Young even though he didn't play much last year)
Coaching - A+ (Had a young and fairly inexperienced team ready, not just for the first game, but for the first game in a tough environment. Mixed lineups effectively even though we had a surprise departure just a couple of days ago. I am a firm believer that the teams personality comes from its coach and he instills confidence and toughness. As bad as some of the calls were, you didn't see guys whining or the coach going nuts on the sideline all game.)
ITs a long season and you never want to take much from one game (whether good or bad). Cinci lost a ton from last years squad, so they are pretty much in the same boat as us trying to figure out their identity and where offense is going to come from. I don't think thats the best Cinci can or will play this year, but they also played their butts off and didn't give an inch, even when shots weren't falling. We overcame a tough home court and some adversity from the "neutral" officials. Whether we go 16-17 or 25-8, this is going to be a team you can get behind and support, no matter what.
Impressive win no doubt - what a great win against a very strong opponent.
Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
I really, really, really really enjoyed this game. The intensity was fantastic. I remember a listless, unmotivated team at times a few years back. This team is a gritty, hard working team. Win or lose, you just have to appreciate that. Coach Holtmann and staff had then ready to go! Go Bucks!
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
First and foremost, the effort was where it needed to be. That's the foundation for any good team - a team that plays hard, a team that cares, a team that plays together. That is there, and as long as that's there, this team will always have a chance to accomplish some things. I thought with the game being at UC, with UC, much like any other smaller Ohio school, savoring the opportunity to take down OSU, that they were really going to bring it last night. They did, to a degree, but I feel like OSU brought it even more themselves.
Obviously not perfect from an X's and O's perspective, but it never is in the 1st game. Of course, UC was going to make a push...you knew they weren't going to shoot 14% for the entire game...I think a couple of bad calls ended up sparking some pushes in a way. First one being when the refs gave UC the ball after a UC player clearly knocked it out of bounds...and Kaleb would get his 3rd foul moments later. Second being the T on Luther...I'm not sure exactly what he said, but, didn't look like much (Dakich didn't like the call). Cincy ended up getting 4 points off the T, and suddenly, a game that was about over...wasn't. Many other young teams could have completely fallen apart in that situation, but OSU didn't, and did enough to not let it get really tense.
What we found out last night is that we have a team that works hard and plays hard. That's a good thing to have.
Class of 2010.
I think I read somewhere that Luther said “Right back atcha”, which in my book is pretty weak for a tech. I love the edge that he plays with and don’t really mind him saying stuff like that as long as he keeps it relatively under control.
The baseline ref missed at least 3 out of bounds calls that should've gone the Buckeyes way. Overall, the officiating was lackluster at best, especially if throw in the obvious flop and the undeserved technical. I love when Dakich calls it like he sees it -- not afraid to throw the refs under the bus.
Forget their star ratings and "Mr Basketball" tattoos.
Last night shows what can happen when you put guys on the floor that actually hustle and play with passion.
Missed watching the game (doing dad-type things), but was pleasantly surprised to catch the score at halftime and over the course of the second half.
The team came out to play, and man is that always welcome on the road, hostile environment.
Couldn't ask for a better start to the season.
I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...
I love coach Holtmann. I just love the way he has his team playing since day 1.... now if he can get a few top players on a consistent basis. Sprinkle in a few role players and OSU will be tough for anyone to beat...