2 MD Articles on Recruits, Next Coach, Health of Players and Football Culture

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Not to Denigate the student athletes......hmmmm. what would it be like on 11W if this were to happen? I can't read our open game threads anymore due to the drivel. Forums after a win are getting almost as bad.

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Sunny Buck's picture

+1 for your avatar.

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes

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Arsenal7's picture

what would it be like on 11W if this were to happen?

i imagine it'd be a ton of people licking the coaches' boots like it is now 

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Hmmmm. Well I support Urban Meyer, and hope he can iron out the kinks this season, because there are still enough games left for this to be an excellent season. I don't consider it boot licking to cheer for what we have now. Could it be better? Sure. We shall see what happens in the next 3 games.

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Kernfan's picture

If you go by players leaving, MD seemed more toxic under Edsall.   

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Arsenal7's picture

if you go by players dying, i'd disagree

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Locksley is a very sensible choice given his ties to the school and area and ability to recruit. It will be interesting to see what becomes of Matt Canada. Not sure if he's necessarily a lights out OC, but did a great job of steadying a very rocky ship there. 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

They may keep Canada if the players like him.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Buck’em all.'s picture

Locksley is a very sensible choice...

LOL, yep, real sensible ... given his overall career coaching record of 3-31, (which includes part of an interim season at Maryland). 

Not to mention the guy is a troublemaker, getting in fights with assistant coaches at UNM, and getting charged with DUIs. 

Hes a real “leader of men”.  But, according to his supporters —- he can recruit, supposedly. 

Matt Canada is light years better than Mike Locksley when it comes to actual coaching, actual Xs and Os. Locksley is a very low-IQ’d individual. 

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bd2999's picture

It is a sad situation really. Hate to see this sort of thing at any school.

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Dstacify's picture

All I'm hoping is that Meyer avoids bringing DJ Durkin to OSU as DC at all costs (they have a prior history of working together at UF). Durkin is definitely a quality defensive coach but he's way too toxic right now to bring to OSU (or to coach anywhere for that matter) and would bring way too much unwanted scrutiny on the program and on Meyer specifically.

11 Strong.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I dont want Durkin anywhere near our team.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Dstacify's picture

Meyer did bring Kevin Wilson here after he was fired at IU for player mistreatment (thankfully he's had zero issues with that since he's been here). But Durkin is on a whole different level. A player died under his watch in part due to his extreme methods of coaching. I'd hope Meyer is enough of a player's coach to know that bringing in Durkin would possibly drive recruits away out of fear but he has had a tendency to hire coaches he's familiar with and worked with previously since he's been here (see Zach Smith, Mickey Marotti). Either way Durkin is untouchable at this point and I hope Meyer doesn't consider hiring him. He'd be asking to spend another off-season playing chicken with the national media if he did and OSU doesn't need that.

11 Strong.

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TXNut2488's picture

I'm a bit surprised that the article is surprised that this is common around college football. I mean I get we all live in our happy little bubbles, but for them to be surprised by this is actually quite shocking to me. I am in no way endorsing it, but just seems rather obvious.

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CC's picture

How many guys in the newsroom went through 2 or 3 a days?  I'm going with 0.  

"We want to win, and we want to tell you how to motivate your players."  Good luck with that.  Sometimes a player deserves a swift kick in the can, sometimes he deserves a pat on the back.  Taking away the stick and leaving only carrots gets you participation trophies.

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WesBranscum's picture

Canada helped contribute to the culture by not standing up and saying something. Same with every coach. Their job was more important than the players, they all deserve to be let go

WesBranscum

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Miss Walker's picture

Maryland's too hard on them.  Ohio State's turned too soft on them.  

I bet what Alabama does to the players makes Maryland look like Candy Land, but people in Alabama aren't candy asses like they are in Maryland.  That's the difference.  

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Kernfan's picture

Funny how one of the quotes in the MD report sorta agreed with you (see quote below).  A few years ago people reacted pretty negatively when Mike Leach was getting some consideration for MD coach. 

“The thing I’ve always told our staff is that we don’t have kids from [parts of the South] who have to go to the [NFL]. They deal with cussing, foul language. Up here, you can’t do that. Kids’ parents are successful, and there is not the same push to go to the [NFL] to be successful in life. Kids in the South don’t live like they do up here, and they need to go to the [NFL] for their families. It’s a different mindset. But up here, kids might react to being called a p****. Parents might be more educated and react differently.” (Assistant Coach) 

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stxbuck's picture

The coach isn't wrong. The kids down South are coached harder and more forcefully-and the parents/culture expect it. Is this always good-no. Does it often produce players with a harder edged mentality on the field-both physically and mentally-absolutely. Do coaches have to be acutely aware of the culture they are recruiting kids from-you better believe it. That said, if a coach is the least bit unaware, scornful, or just downright wrong about heat conditions or proper hydration practices or the recommendations of medical staff-they should be held criminally liable if something happens.

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Kernfan's picture

Its probably better for football, and much worse for most things in life like getting an education and better jobs.  

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Outraged Brush's picture

Lol I'm sure that's the difference. I don't think anybody has died under Bama's watch. 

YOU SIT THERE AND YOU THUMP YOUR BIBLE AND YOU SAY YOUR PRAYERS AND IT DIDN'T GET YOU ANYWHERE!!! TALK ABOUT YOUR PSALMS TALK ABOUT JOHN 3:16.... AUSTIN 3:16 SAYS I JUST WHIPPED YOUR ASS!!!!!

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bd2999's picture

Alabama does not have players die out on the practice field. I doubt they are that much more intense in practice than other teams are. They just have great players and very good coaches. And it all has worked for them, even when positions lack the others are still dominating.

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JarheadBuck's picture

What do they think Locksley learned as a Saban assistant that he didn't know when they passed on him in 2015?

I'm just saying he isn't getting Bama talent levels from recruiting, he won't have the support Saban has from everyone in Tuscaloosa and he's really just staying the course on an existing offense.

Personally, I'd offer it to Canada.  He seems to have done a pretty good job of keeping that burning ship above water this year.

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Kernfan's picture

Canada has had very tough circumstances.  The performances have been very uneven (Temple, Iowa, and MSU were pathetic games, Texas and Minnesota were impressive).  Talking with friend today about how delusional the boosters were, not being happy with Friedgen, so doubting Canada gets it.  

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

 Never hire the interim. That is the #1 rule in coaching hires

2x account suspension survivor 

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CC's picture

Yeah this is a Maryland "problem" only, we would never ride players at OSU or literally any other HS or college in the country

https://youtu.be/QXknkN-Vhqw?t=1353

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Above all else, I’m a fan of interesting

John Harbaugh to Maryland!

2x account suspension survivor 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Locksley was 2-26 in two years and four games at New Mexico. Yeah, I know, it's New Mexico. Still, with the exception of Saban, everywhere he's coached in the past 15 years, the head coach was fired: at Florida for Zook, at Illinois for Zook, Locksley at UNM, and at Maryland for Edsall. There's no doubt he can recruit but I'm not at all convinced he can coach.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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stxbuck's picture

Shows you the folly of the "OMG, he's great recruiter!!! We're gonna dominate!!" pov that some embrace on here, regarding coaches........

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