Glad we managed to persevere and get a tough gritty win against a-
2-7 team. Nothing to worry about folks, this definitely isn’t any kind of sign that none of our glaring issues were fixed during the bye week.
Nebraska was not great early, but lost a bunch of close games and have been much much better the past 3-4 weeks. That is the team we played, not the Nebraska of weeks 1-3
They lost to Troy. I don’t care how many hoops you want to jump through, they’re bad.
Same thing as Purdue. You can put lipstick on a pig...
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
You can put Lipstick on a pig, it's called a Michigan cheerleader.
If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.
Always BS justification like this in here.
“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”
Agree completely. Bucks squeaked it out against now 2-7 Nebraska. Just like they scraped by against Minnesota and Indiana before Purdue outed them. The 2018 Buckeyes are a very average team headed in the wrong direction. Don't let 8-1 fool you.
The Browns are no longer the worst franchise in all of professional sport.
You are who your record says you are.
ummm, well then, Go UCF! ?
~ The Buck Guy
Except in here. Indiana is good every year. Minnesota is good. Nebraska is solid. And Purdue, holy shit, they are CFP level.
What? Really? That is the standard Big 10 apologist answer. "All the teams are just better because I've heard of them AND they're in the Big 10. Both boxes checked on being solid/good."
I got your apology right here. Nebrasky was a 2-6 team at game time. Maybe the best 2-6 team in America, I don't care. OSU was 7-1 and the only other 7-1 team I think they would have a chance against is KY Jelly. And for the UCF commenter: Who has beaten them in 1 3/4 seasons? If Urban's Friends and Family plan of coaches had them on the schedule I would take the Knights and whatever betting enticement the touts offered. The B1G is pure trash this season and Urban is heading into his next medical meltdown.
If they were in the SEC, espn and the playoff committee would agree!!!! No italics.
TG Proud Buckeye alumnus.
I guess that’s true, but we just don’t look like #10 8-1 OSU. 4* and 5* recruits, but not guys who ball out at all. Just doesn’t feel like we would fare well against anyone in top 20. No juice
Nebraska is not good. Ohio state is not good. Hell, Michigan is not good. The only good thing about them beating us this year will be watching bama drop 60 on em in the playoff. I’m predicting Michigan goes in as a 4 seed to play bama and bama wins 62-3. Michigan looks good against a very bad Big ten. The big ten is a downright horrible conference this year. Big ten is easily the worst power 5 conference this year. Hate to say it but I think, the top 7 teams (bama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, Kentucky, Auburn, Mississippi State) in the SEC beat our champ ( Michigan).
I don't know I think Michigan looks pretty damn good...do I think they could beat Bama? No, but I don't think there's a college football team out there who can, at least not without some major injury issues, so that's not saying much.
Clemson is the only team I think could hang with Alabama right now, and I wouldn't have thought that a few weeks ago
Seattle Buckeye, Green Tony
"Hell, Michigan is not good."
Dude... No. Have you seen their defense play? Arguably the best in the nation.
"bama wins 62-3"
Mmm, yes. Gotta love hyperbole, considering they put up 29 against a very good LSU defense.
"Big ten is easily the worst power 5 conference this year"
Nope. The Pac-12 still exists.
"Hate to say it but I think, the top 7 teams (bama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, Kentucky, Auburn, Mississippi State) in the SEC beat our champ ( Michigan)."
Hate to say it, but you're clueless. Bama and Georgia probably could, but LSU and below all have offenses that would really struggle to score against Michigan. Take a deep breath, man. Sheesh.
Harbaugh puts ketchup on his steak.
we suck... we really do
"If you take it to em and you keep takin it to em , hell there's no question whose gonna win" W.W.H
But why, that's the question. There's absolutely no logical reason for this lackluster play the past few weeks.
Coaching or rather the lack thereof.
100% TRUE! Its not personnel. We get personnel. Now whether its the RIGHT personnel again thats up to the coaches and who they identify. But we get most anyone we want in close to 90% of the cases and have one of the top recruit classes every year. Only Alabama and maybe Clemson can say they get better or even as good recruits as consistently as we do.
Between the loss of our wide receivers coach just prior to season, and loss of Urban for first part of season, the aggravation of his ongoing illness and the unsatisfactory job done but the offensive line coach.
Im hearing talk of Schiano mentioned for several upcoming coaching vacancies, Gawd, I hope so. That and if there is ANY way we can get Warinner back.
Also, can we lose the black unis. If this is the way we play in them, lets not!!
The players on the football team aren't as good as the players who used to be on the football team in previous years.
Not true. Just as much talent, just not properly coached and developed.
If you go buy recruiting ratings then we have talent. But on the field, it doesn’t look like there are great players. And I include the D line. They don’t make plays.
We thought the offense would overcome defensive inexperience, losses to injury, and losses to the league. But overrated on the talent front I’m afraid.
Nice job Brendon White, fire these guys up ,
I can’t disagree with what you write. I wonder how much of it is blue chip guys that lack that edge and how much of it is that they aren’t coached up to maximize potential? It will be really interesting to see how rest of the season pans out and what is changed in the offseason. Hyperbole of some on here aside, we all agree this team is not maximizing player potential. Good post!!!
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Whoever heard of a mellow winner."
No fire, no leadership, no emotion. Haskins looks half asleep most of the time. The team looks and plays as if shell-shocked. Dobbins showed some swagger near the end. That's about it.
Offense is improving. Holy crap we ran the ball. Lack of pass rush really hurts. Missing Bosa is really big.
You suck as a fan, you really do.
I would like to thank Scott Frost for not kicking the on-side kick "for real" at the end of the game. Not sure what he was thinking with only 2:56 remaining. They didn't stop us on the previous drive. But, I am glad our defense wasn't put in a position to stop them. Wouldn't have been overconfident!
A "W" is a "W". Go Bucks, beat Sparty!
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50% fixed, Redzone I believe was 3 TD out of 4 trips and running game much improved. Defense and penalties not fixed. Special teams looked good.
penalties not fixed.
Yeah, but 6 penalties is actually an improvement.
Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !
Lol, +1 Ibuck
Defense ... not fixed.
I suspect Schiano mentally checked out after he lost the Tennessee head coaching job. I would never have doubted his ability to coach a defense before this season.
Ohio State is one the worst coached teams in the country when you consider the talent on the roster. This is a coaching deficiency. 256 yards given up by the defense at the half.
— jbook (@jbook37) November 3, 2018
who is jbook?
not sure what anything means in all the gray area fans are floating around in
its college football, and I like watching it, even when I’m so cornfused as to what I’m watching this year
Staff from Bucknuts
Maybe, SonOfBuckeye, but I believe it’s more than just Schiano, look at the coaching changes this past year, I think that’s a good indicator right their. +1 and Go Bucks!!
Forgot to include Bill Davis in my above comment!
The running game may be better, 252 yards excluding Haskins, although Nebraska isn't really noted for their run defense. I hope we win out but I wouldn't be surprised if we lost 1 or 2 of the next 3
You may be right Aristotle, But if we do, it will be OSU defense that will lose it in my opinion. Also, I don’t believe Purdue’s defense were known as great run stoppers either. +1 and Go Bucks!
Correct, don't know for sure if anything's been fixed. It was Nebraska ppl, they didn't even win a game until 2 weeks ago. When they beat a bottom dwelling Minnesota team by a score similar to ours. I know what ttun did to that Nebraska team and I fear it is not good. (Did I mention we had 2 weeks to prepare)
Yeah but it's Nebraska
It was just Purdue also, I do believe Nebraska has improved since the first 6 games, Not saying the running game is completely fixed but it was much improved today. +1 and Go Bucks!
Purdue just went up 2 scores on #16 Iowa, who is a pretty good team.
Purdue started off 0-3 and started to improve! Nebraska started 0-6 and started to improve. Not saying Purdue is not a good team, they’re not world beaters and neither is Nebraska, but both teams are improved and so did OSUs running game today against an improved Nebraska team. Go Bucks!!
Against one of the worst defenses in the nation. Nothing to write home about!
Hector m Rivera
I think we found a safety to play beside Fuller
My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.
White did great!
And it took an ejection to get him on the field. At least they didn't trot Wint out there again
Here we come dabo !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
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Indeed Linga, on to the next one.
"Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order."
Tough sledding ahead for sure with these next few weeks.
"Bad team Hangs on to Beat Terrible Team"
it will be something to behold in the off-season
I can hardly wait to be amused by the apologists who put any criticism of this game on blast
So you want drama? I'm not attacking your post but I believe that there has been enough of that this season. Just my opinion.
Meh, the offense is actually good. They're being sandbagged by a soft defense (especially LB's) who would struggle to shut out a high school team.
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
Meh, the offense is actually good.
3 turnovers. Gotta do a lot better, and against better defenses in coming weeks.
I counted 4 turnovers?
The offense is average at best. Nevertheless, I agree the D is horrible. I don't think Pete Werner would start for Illi fuckin' ois. How the hell is a LB for The OSU? Crazy.
Dude, I hate to rag on the kid but he has no business being on the field for OSU at this point. Teams are literally scheming to take advantage of him being out there.
Some real bad fans in here as always. Ohio State is 8-1 and a good team. Are they championship caliber, no. But bad? We’ll slow down the bandwagon so you can get off. Don’t need fans like you quite frankly who are here only for championships. Go root for Bama dude.
"Show me a good loser and I'll show you a busboy." - WWH Congratulations, you are happy being a decent team in a mediocre conference and low expectations make your heart flutter. The rest of us just bought Urban's BS about constant competition and improvement in every aspect of the team. Getting blown out in the last CFP appearance, getting blown out by a mediocre team in each of the last two seasons and barely squeaking past a really crappy 2-6 team does not demonstrate constant improvement in any department of the football program. In fact, it shows regression very plainly.
Show me a good loser? Um, we won. Didn’t bother reading the rest. Your comments would have made sense after Purdue or after another loss. But after a win, you just come off as a whiny little bitch.
you just come off as a whiny little bitch
That is hilarious coming from you. All you do is whine and bitch about how no one is as good of a fan as you. Your act is getting tiresome, why do you keep surrounding yourself with such "inferior" fans if all you're gonna do is complain about them?
Shandy is not beer
85% of the fans on here are great. The other 15%, no so much.
Um, I was referring to your loser attitude of accepting mediocrity. Um, ok?
So 8-1 is mediocre now? Ok got it. This team isn’t as dominate as we all hoped it would be. Calling them mediocre shows how spoiled some on here truly are.
i'm with him <---- STINK, STANK, STUNK
Thank you !! You loose the best player in college football two starters on the offensive line half your defense AND. A new quarterback not to mention the head coach missed the whole training camp..things aren’t gonna be pretty so many iffy “fans”
"Thousands of tired, nerve-shaken, over-civilized people are beginning to find out that going to the mountains is going home; that wilderness is a necessity..." -John Muir
I'm just happy for the win
LOL, BIC lighter! Funny stuff.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
That's awesome. Can't believe they were trying to get people to call 'em jiff instead of gif.
So what will the excuses be in this postgame presser? I know, I’m spoiled, but come on - isn’t this a pretty holllow victory.
I hear you, but then again, with three games left in the season it's not like Meyer is going to come out and tell the truth we can all see with our eyes: "This year we have a mediocre team, and that's not going to change before the off season. We're just hoping and praying we don't get pounded by our Rival."
we don’t have a mediocre team, our coaching is where we struggle. Did you not hear the commentators talk about how high our o line went into every snap and there were 3 times when we were in defense that we looked flat as hell. The coaching needs to change. We have the talent
Brutus for president
I agree that coaching changes are in order, particularly on defense, but some of our players flat get outmanned week in and week out. Werner, Prince, Sheffield, Borland. There are some guys on the field each week who don't stack up with OSU expectations.
And that is because of the coaching.
Really?!? Ask Darron Lee, either of the Bosas, Ryan Shazier, Vonn Bell or many other past players if they needed the coaches to get them pumped up to play a game. I don't want a player who needs Mickey Marotti to get him excited to play football. That's on the player.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
Then that's recruiting ,which goes back to coaching.
It's time to see what the man is made of when someone smacks him in the mouth
You have spoken to Darron Lee, both Bosas and all the other players you mention? Why is it that every former player and coach in the media squarely place OSU's problems on the scheme (coaching) not the players? Are you saying you have spoken to James Laurinaitis, Robert Smith and Chris Carter, among others, and they told you they didn't need any coaching?
C'mon 45, I'm not talking about Xs and Os, I was talking about being motivated. That's why I mentioned Marotti and not the position coaches. I fell that at least half of the problem is that this entire team plays without heart, without a refusal to lose (every rep, not just the game). I haven't seen a Buckeye team play such uninspired football since the 2011 team, and that's not something I EVER want to live through again. All of those guys are self-motivated, and no I've never asked them. I've heard them speak over the years, and Laurinitis has specifically said it during this season while on the radio.
Actually it's coaching. Recall that these are college kids, many still teenagers. They need strong leadership and accountability, motivation etcetera seeing that they also have classes, jobs, personal lives... and they are still teenagers with way more distractions than decades past.
Part of it is on players sure, but it's the coaches' job to make sure they are focused and ready to go.
Well once again I have to ask, how do you know we have the talent. You can make the argument that the coaching staff has a better resume of past success than this particular group of starters for the Buckeyes. If previous players had success with these coaches than why isn't this group? Doesn't that suggest the problem is more with the players? This is not the same line up from past seasons and they are not getting it done.
Yup!!! Our O lineman are just too tall and dont play with leverage. Our D lineman are just too small, particularly at tackle. We need a 310+ pound tackle on 3rd and short. How many times have we seen our D line get pushed back on short yardage plays or on running plays?? They are just to easy to move when the O lineman get their hands on them.
Yeah but how many weeks can we say the o line pad level are too high. They dont see this in film study every week and not correct it themselves? I mean each player can see himself on film as well..the coaches dont care, and players are not motivated to improve
You have to remember, the coaches and coaching is part of the "Team"
I still chuckle at fans who look to pressers for answers. Didn’t know you needed an excuse when you win. You are spoiled.
Yep this is the Worst Buckeyes Defense in 40 years
"Son, at Ohio State we run straight for the goal line."
Yeah the turnovers aside.. we played well offensively. Our defense is just bad.
I was going to post same thing. Just like we all said, coach Schiano did nothing to coach up this D over the break - his comments last week proved that. Worst D in years and our middle of the D line was like Swiss cheese. Play some freshmen. None of the players groups are playing at a high level - or even a good level.
Maybe we are using some kind of philosophy I don't understand, but we just seem to be chasing the ball around the field. D line and LBs catch blockers. No attacking, no shedding blockers until they have been pushed 3 yards back.
One Nebraska drive in the second half perfectly embodied our defense. 1st down, 4 yard run. 2nd down fumbled snap. 3th down, QB missed an open receiver. Punt. As long as we play ineffective offenses our defense does quite well. Hell they didn't even need to be on the field for 2nd and 3rd down. But ineffective offenses still gain 400 yards and score 31 points. What happens when we play effective offenses? Dumpster Fire.
"we ain't come to play school"
The only way I can't describe it is they are playing like they don't give a shit.
Yeah I thought the same thing when I read Schianos comments stating there is nothing wrong with his scheme and it’s lack of execution blaming it on the players!!! I knew at that point no changes on defense were coming. Now I tell ya two coaches I do miss and why. Fickell because our LB’s improved and played well under him. And Combs because not only did he coach up the players he got them fired up and kept them fired up!!! I loved watching him on the sidelines.
Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~ Woody Hayes
This is a great comment. Could not agree more!!!
I’m 31. And this is definitely the worst collectively I’ve ever seen. Watching the pathetic waist of 4/5 star talent is frustrating beyond words
Not pretty but I’ll take it
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
A wins a win but I full expect to lose vs MSU and Michigan after that game.
You're an optimist. Maryland is much better than the Huskers, and that game will be on the road too
yep, 43rd president
Ugly win. But we’ll take it. We’ve still got a lot of work to do.
Fields of Dreams
There are three games left, I wonder when they are going to get to work?
Dude, the work is done. This team has been "working" since spring. This team is what it is. Average and headed in the wrong direction.
two weeks and this is what the team has to show for it? something's seriously off.....at least the run game is.....back?
We’re 8-1, and this team continues to make my stomach turn.
I’m convinced that they are simultaneously the most talented and the worst one-loss power 5 team.
Our schedule has been a cake walk so only have 1 loss is a bit of a misnomer.
Not a misnomer (means misnamed) as they actually have 1 loss (so they in fact are a 1 loss team).
One win against a team with a winning record. PSU.
Which got totally porked in A2 yesterday.
yea, that wasn't what I wanted to see yesterday after we eked out a 1 point win.
Sounds like the ‘02 team. Things turned out ok, despite having a Krenzel.
No. That team played hard nosed, and had an outstanding defense.
Positives: We didnt lose. Brendan White should be starting.
Negatives: Too GD many.
This abortion is on Urban. 8-4 and the Outback or Gator Bowl baby. Way to aim high.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
The Brendan White thing makes me continue to question the coaching player assessments.
So have you changed your tune in the last few weeks or am I thinking of another poster?
Ive been angry since the Minnesota game tbh, Knar.
And its clear to me now Urban plays his favorites. White and fuller together could be what weve needed at safety all year.
We clearly have better linebackers on the bench too.
We have a 5-star LB (Mitchell) and a 4-star (Pope) on the bench. Makes you wonder.
Dallas Gant too
"Vitalum Vitalis "
We ABSOLUTELY do. Just watching game performance the starting 3 LBs should be: Browning, Hilliard, Harrison/Booker.
Need to get the DT and MLB positions figured out. Use the DTs properly to stuff the inside run, and then evaluate who the starting MLB is based on who plays assignment football the best. Then the starters at OLB can be determined by letting them play where they are supposed to. Let's stop this nonsense of LBs on the line scrimmage attempting to occupy blockers so that supposedly "quick" DTs can make plays. Give me DTs who can outwrestle OL and be RUN STUFFERS and turn everybody else loose.
I'd rather be a minute early than an hour early, 'cause I like to procrastinate.
You have to play your back-up reserves. Otherwise, you lose them mentally and then lose other guys with them. It's a TEAM game, not a game where only 25 or so guys play, regardless of how good or bad are they are playing.
Need to do a nearly complete overhaul of the coaching staff this offseason. Get them the fuck out of here. Overpaid and overrated garbage. We have one of the most talented teams in the country and they are being mismanaged and misused. Going on 3 years in row now. We won't sniff the national title while this is allowed to continue.
Fighting the good fight in SEC country. "Our honor defend"
I’ll be shocked if Meyer makes any moves, but there are 2-3 obvious ones.
4 to 5
How about Day and Wilson (and probably Meyer) up 9 with over 10 minutes to play and after we’d really gotten our running game going? Pass, pass, pass ... Bad as we played, we’re damn lucky these idiots didn’t give this one away today.
Not impressed with Day. Dont see any influence by Wilson. And see a ton of Urbans brand in the play calling.
Now you’re bitching about Urban passing too much?? Hahahaha!! You people are unreal. Go burn your gear..... jeez!!
I know right? I thought Haskins was the second coming, but somehow it is absurd to pass with him? This is bitching just to bitch, which is odd because there are real things to criticize here.
I think thought the same. How bout start the game with 6 straight runs? I’m not impressed with day as a play caller
And just think, only a few weeks ago he was anointed our next head coach! And if the team wakes up next week, he will be again.
The first 10-15 plays are scripted and planned in advance. Day may not have had a say in that first drive.
Our offensive coordinator doesn’t get a say? That could be a problem.
Urban fires Wariner but keeps Stud. OL has been regressing.
Elon Musk: 'I Want to be Clear: I Do Not Respect the SEC'
Incorrect. Warri we was promoted to OC and it was generally he’d here he was a terrible OC. You are rewriting history here.
They need to quit hiring these old ass head coaches as asst. who are looking for a pay day and hire young guys who want to prove themselves.
BINGO!!!! Look at the staff in 2014.
SMH. That wasn't very pretty. I didn't see any fire or enthusiasm. Something weird is happening.
"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
I think that’s my biggest problem. You generally get the sense that no one gives a shit.
We have a bunch of guys who just don't care and have no pride
That's what happens when you have a bunch of kids from out of state. They could give a shit less about our school. You can talk about highest rated kid all you want. We're the 2nd fastest school to 900 wins and we got there with OHIO kids. Kid's who grew up dreaming about playing for our school. Kid's and families who were and are invested in our school. We have a bunch of kids who could care less about our school. They came to play for themselves
And Alabama has somehow created a dynasty without recruiting a roster full of Alabama kids.
Dumb Boomer argument
Ill take the downvotes.. there is some truth in his argument.. Look at Cooper's rosters versus Tressel's... And it was my only concern when Urban took over... The end of the Urban era would not be pretty because OOS recruits are not as vested... But it is and will be worth the risk because of the rewards we got and will probably continue to get under Urban...
Saban mentioned his issue in 2014 with his OOS'ers looking ahead to the draft versus the playoffs (added this just get some more downvotes).
Amen. This NFL factory is churning out players who are worried about what round they are drafted, and not about kicking Xichigan's god damn ass. I smell losses in the near future..no passion or heart in the majority of the players or coaches
cough cough cough Bosa cough cough cough
That and Haskins slide with no one around him.
Yeah, thats it. Its not like Alabama or Clemson has any NFL talent.
Sorry but this is a load of crap. It doesn’t matter where they came from, it didn’t matter last season and it didn’t matter when we won the title in 2015. Kids want to win because they are competitors and have been winning all their lives. Don’t turn this into a “we need more 3 stars from AHIA” thing, because we’ll end up like Michigan State, where three losses is the norm.
The team is just not being coached well, and they seem to have completely given up on defense.
Right. We have enough of the 3 stars, Tuf Borland being exhibit number one. Couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag. Brady Quinn called him a coach on the field. I don't wanna freaking coach on the field. I want a g-damned linebacker with some athletic ability.
What a horrible take. Truly awful. I guess Alabama should just recruit kids from their own state only too.
I don't think that's it. Incidentally, if you look at Alabama's roster they almost always have a lot of kids from Alabama on it, as does Auburn. Alabama isn't considered a great high school football state because 99% of them go to Bama or Auburn and thus no one recruits it. But it's not that we need more Ohio kids. Don't get me wrong: I'm all for Ohio kids, but I'm 100% behind whoever comes to play for Ohio State. I think these kids are getting shortchanged by lousy coaching in both scheme and fundamentals.
Alabama also has a coach who will rip a kid on Nat'l TV when he makes a dumbass play up by 50 with 20 seconds to go. We don't have that. They also have a coach who will get rid of a coach right before the Nat'l champ. game. We don't have that. They also have a coach that will pull a QB at halftime of the Nat'l champ. game. We don't have that......You might not want to compare them to us
You are spot on. Saban ain’t playing JT for three games let alone 3 years. Saban ain’t gonna let his o line get mauled. Urban can’t touch Saban. Yes I know urban has beat him. Saban ain’t gonna lose to an unranked team.......by 30 back to back years. Saban ain’t gonna get laughed at by other coaches.
Bush-league comment. Way to try to divide the team.
I hate this argument only because when our teams fell short under Tressel (06 & 07), what I heard then was that we needed a more national recruiting approach to get over the top. I also never heard this complaint in 14-15 when OSU was either the best or one of the best teams in the country.
Not sure why so many down vote this. He has a real point, whether you like it or not; or whether you agree or disagree. It doesn't take much research to look back at pre-Meyer teams to see slews of leaders on the Buckeyes who were under recruited and low ranked recruits that were world-beaters in scarlet and gray.
Yup, this just confirmed my earlier assessment
Unfortunately I do believe it's a culture issue at this point. This is not the culture and not the coach from 2012 (Urban's finest job at OSU IMO). There is no leader like a John Simon, no competitor like a Zach Boren. Can you imagine those guys ever quitting either in a game or on their team? Go back and watch Training Days. You could see a head coach that was involved, teaching, motivating. We are The Ohio State, we don't do average, walk out now if you can't commit 100% to the program. I'm sure that team was "less talented" in terms of star ratings or whatever, but they played physical, never quit, plenty of injuries, and went undefeated. They didn't steamroll through, but were always competitive.
Urban looks to me in his words and his body language like a worn down shell of 2012. Frankly, I'm concerned for his health at this point, both mental and physical. I don't think firing assistant coaches is an answer for the lack of competitive fire with this team. They are what they are now. Something larger is needed similar to 2012. A change in culture and philosophy from the top down. I'm afraid what is needed is a new head coach that has the hunger and passion necessary to create a new culture of competition, accountability, and leadership. And I don't view any of the current coaches as a candidate for that job.
I appreciate everything that Urban has accomplished at OSU (TTUN record, NC, undefeated season) and his induction as a hall of fame OSU coach will be well deserved. But I think he has reached a point in his career where he has lost his competitive fire and seems unable to adapt his philosophy to changing circumstances.
Yeah but they said the same thing about Urban at Florida before he came here.
Haskins must become a more vocal leader now at this point in the season. Also, Dobbins and either Dixon, Hill or Campbell. Probably Jordan too.
SanBuck, The legal and media circus in August with the questioned monitoring of an assistant coach's marital problems, took a lot out of Coach Urban, and frankly out of the fans too. Thank you Pres Drake.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
Yeah it’s Drake’s fault that Meyer hires ZS, didn’t tell anyone at the school about his history at Florida, then didn’t let him go after Gene told him to fire him and ZS continually didn’t do his job.
Hehe. While I was disappointed with what I consider to be a manufactured scandal, I think Drake did close to the best he could. For every borderline case like the Smiths', there are cases of real malice out there.
Well atleast we found a 2nd player that can play safety. Question is, will they use White from here on out with fuller coming back?
We just have to get over it, this is who the 2018 Buckeyes are.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Can we just get to 2019 already? Something is wrong with the buckeyes and drastic off-season changes are needed.
Let’s hope the team has more intestinal fortitude than you. There are still plenty of us who care how this season turns out. And this is the attitude after a win. I honestly think many of you would be long gone after a 2-3 loss season. #fairweather
I suffered enough during some teams in the 90s.I remeber losing to Syracuse in HOF Bowl please lord dont let us return to those dark days #fairweather
"Nobody despises to lose more than I do"
Scary thought is what if there are no off season changes???
It's been a long time since I've felt apathetic about an Ohio State football game but that's where I'm at. We arent good. That much is obvious. I was holding out hope that today would fix things but also, here we are. Thank God we didn't play a good team. Purdue wouldve beaten us by 90 today.
Would be lying if I said I hadn't considered just sitting a game or two out. They are horrible to watch.
This is the first buckeye game I’ve missed since the advent of dvr. I’ve had to step away. It’s no fun watching and that’s why I do it for entertainment.
I take it a step farther. I DVR all games. Watch if we win, don't if we lose. Yes it is entertainment but it is also a time commitment. I put a value on my time and it is based on expectations. We are assumed to be one of the top 3-5 teams year in and year out,. So the expectations are high as they should be. We have money, tradition, facilities, following and should have the best coach(s) money can by (but we don't and it isn't close-head coach included). So to see high school or DII level football being played, I can't justify the time commitment vs entertainment value and a live game. It's that simple. The up side is I don't lose sleep, I have a pleasant Saturday and my wife gets a little peace and quiet.
That's right, that's right, we bad
I'll take it even farther. I DVR all games and watch the replay at least twice every time, usually once while listening to Keels and Lachey. Especially when we lose! I have to know who is getting it done and who isn't. I know, I know, I need to get a life!
I agree wholeheartedly about what you said. I work seven days a week every week(really). I’ve had I believe one scheduled day maybe two days off since Fourth of July. Before Fourth of July the same. Around 700 hours of overtime this year. That said it’s not worth the time to watch it. I also don’t want to watch a movie that is supposed to be good. If the movie sucks I’m done with it. Regardless of what it’s supposed to be. It came to a point when I was watching Purdue and OSU. My wife says you don’t even enjoy the games no more.So I have decided to probably step away until Michigan. I got that week off. Take it off every year so I can have that Saturday
Buckskin007, one of the best takes ever!
StuckUpNo, yes! It's more than the Win or Loss, it's the entertainment value and the valuable time given up. Aloha.
It is championship expectations that have ruined your enjoyment. No one enjoys games like Purdue. But today was a competitive game that ended in a win. Only reason one can’t enjoy fhis is because they have let expectations ruin for them. Believe it or not, there are lots of fans out there that tune in weekly to watch their team who never really have a shot to win a title and they sit through .500 or worse seasons regularly. It is as I say, a very spoiled fan base that lacks perspective.
I think you summed up my feelings pretty well. I’ll always love my alma mater and the football program as an institution, but I don’t love watching the current years version.
Good to get back on track with a win. There was some good things from this game and some not so good things. Glad we got the running game going and found a safety in Brendon White. Still too inconsistent. Big challenge next week at Sparty!
ROTFLMAO!!!! Are you the script writer for this coaching staff? You just won the internet!!!
99 problems but an L ain't one.
"Year for what?"
Takeaways from this game
1.Tuf Borland & Werner are TERRIBLE , put Keandre Jones and Browning out there CONSISTENTLY
2. As good as our D-Line is , we have missed having a true 1-tech DT with SIZE , like 6’3 310+.
3. Brendan White needs to start oposite of fuller , no if and or buts
4. I like how the commentators touched on our o-line.. we have too many Tall players on the o-line who are playing out of position and have zero leverage. Michael Jordan is a 6’7 center whose original position was LT , why is he playing Center????? Knox and Pridgeon are awful as well , both too big and soft.
5. Luke Farrell & Jeremy Ruckert need to be the top 2 TEs, rashod berry just isnt good at all
6. Schiano’s days at DC are over , any of you guys got any good 4-3 DCs on the market?
Maybe I’m just emotional, but is our D-line actually that good this year? Not very much pressure on the QB, and they never stop the RB at the line of scrimmage. Too lazy to research it, but we’re probably leading the nation in offsides calls. And if you shut down Chase Young on the outside, the production just isn’t there. Cooper and Cornell do nothing, Landers is inconsistent, Jones is good for at least 2 offsides a game, and Tyreke Smith doesn’t play nearly enough. Bottom line, losing Bosa has cost us severely
Agree. D-line is extremely overrated. Landers was getting destroyed all game. Hamilton, Cornell, Cooper haven't shown anything at all.
Ive been super critical on our D-Line , they can afford to double-team , triple team Dre’mont Jones because as good as Young is .... his technique is severly lacking. Cooper kind of proves why he is a beast rotational DE , but not a starter. Landers/ Hamilton are way too undersized to be playing NT , and anybody ever wonder what happen to the heavily recruited Antwaun Jackson? After the missed tackles against TCU , he hasnt touched the field since
Agreed. Don't know about Jackson, but Togiai and Vincent have looked stout in the middle. Tyreke Smith has looked good against the pass, but charges so hard after the passer that he is susceptible to the run/draw as he is usually in only on the 3rd and long Rushmen package.
Agree with this take. Without Bosa, this DL is subpar, at best. Chase Young and Dremont Jones have been ghosts the last 3-4 games.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
100% correct on every point. I'd only add that Grinch and Davis need to go with Schiano, and that our DEs are continuously failing to contain the outside
Realistically, how can grinch do his job with Meyer and Schiano overriding his every move and decision?
don't forget coach stud
Getting rid of Grinch is such an overreaction it's beyond scary. Davis definitely needs to go because the LBs have been a liability both years he's been here but firing a coach after one year is never good unless they are beyond terrible. The team is very young & 2018 just isn't the year.
The Grinch doesn’t think William’s son is game ready.
Grinch has stated that Meyer decides starters ... not him
Well, wish I saw your post before I commented almost the exact same thing about our O-line & D-line.
104,245 was the official attendance for Saturday's game
Did some of those folks check in and then check right back out?!? Looked more like 90,000 to me..
I saw improvement in a couple areas (particularly the run game), and Brendan White was a huge bright spot. But, there are still a lot of issues with this team. The defense as a whole is still shaky at best. The LBs are still a liability in pass coverage. On offense, the zone read should just be dropped from the playbook, as Haskins barely ever keeps it anyhow, and honestly shouldn't be running anyway. Lots of work to do.
But the truth is, the world is so much stranger than that. So much darker. And so much madder. And so much better. -Dr. Who, "Love and Monsters"
It’s kind of pathetic that we need an injury and ejection for white to find the field. I have no confidence he will play next week
Well, at least Dubgate is still undefeated.
As well as Urban coming off of a loss or a bye week.
In the regular season.
Lost back to back to close 2013, and got doors blown off in CFP by Clemson after what was an extended bye week.
Haskins was jittery in the pocket after Weber missed that block, which allowed the blind side sack/fumble.Weber had 2 fumbles, which probably would have cost the Buckeyes the game had they not recovered them. QB play definitely took a step back today. Hopefully he can learn to stand tall in the pocket and take his lumps, because it will be much worse in the NFL. Thinking he might need another year, as of today,
"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra
I think it's pretty clear as well that the RB committee needs to be dissolved. Dobbins should be playing most series.
Running game better
defense still suspect but another week to get better
The defense needs to be gutted. It’s not going to improve at this point if it hasn’t yet. They got blown out by Purdue and that wasn’t enough of a wake up call apparently.
At this point in the year the defense is what the defense is. Gutting it right before a big Michigan State game basically guarantees that they lose that game & against Michigan. Accept that this year isn't the year and that coaching changes need to happen, mainly Davis being fired & a change in the defensive philosophy to help the young players
It's PAINFULLY obvious this team is NOT a playoff caliber team but we won and that is always a positive reason to celebrate. GO BUCKS!
Wow what a terrible showing after the bye week. At least we got the dub but defensive issues haven't been fixed. Brendan White is the answer it seems.
"Ice! It's in my veins!" - D'Angelo Russell
Taking bets on if they let him play next week?
Just beat Michigan at this point
Everybody wants to be heard, and the easiest way to be the loudest is to be the hater
Exactly what I said after checking the score & report. We're mediocre, it is what it is, just beat TTUN and make some changes in the winter.
Question: can you look at this team and game as a tale of two halves? I missed most of the first half, but they looked way better in the second half. Obviously the passing game didn’t click for two drives in the fourth, but the run game was better.
Nebraska did help by dropping passes that would have given them first downs on consecutive drives. But the running game did look better.
That excuse has been used twice before, that's the limit in one season
Is this the worst 8-1 team in the past decade?
I made the mistake of checking out the Forum during the game... I won't repeat that error again. Fucking embarrassing! According to that, Urban should be fired, the Shoe burned down, Brutus smashed, and Woody dug up and violated! We've officially become worse fans than TTUN!
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
That’s crazy. We should only do like half of those.
And what’s even better, if they come out on fire next week, we’ll be right back to talking about the playoffs and championships.
Jesus - reading some of these comments just makes me shake my head in shame - people have already conceded losses to MSU and TTUN already. Great to know you're all big time fans and supportive of the program because for a moment, I thought we were 2 - 6 and just got beat by Appy State!
FYI - when OSU won it all under Tressel - we came close to losing just about every single game against some pretty lousy opponents...
So can we start to question Meyer and Co’s evaluation on Defensive players?
Wyatt Davis should be starting on the OL and not as a jumbo TE. Buckeyes don’t have a better run blocker on the entire line right now.
Thought I saw Bowen doing some decent work, too.
I missed it, Knar; I didn't note Bowen the Samoan in there. But I'm sure if he was in, he was doing us proud. Aloha.
Sizzle I agree 3. Brendan White needs to start oposite of fuller , no if and or buts. Why hasn't he been starting is the question!
If Brendon White isn’t playing alongside fuller after next weeks first half, it will reinforce to me that this coaching staff is clueless
White's performance was really the only bright spot. Two weeks off and they cough up 31 points to a 2-7 team. There's no hope for this team, I see a loss at MSU next and definitely Michigan. Hard to get some coaches on this team to be motivated when one of their feet is out of the door. Schiano should do the honorable thing and step down, he's clearly not getting the job done.
None of our questions were answered about this team. Running game improvement looked possible? We’ll see when we play MSU.
Brendan White was a bright spot but defense was far far from even solid.
Still don’t think this team is a contender. But still some things to play for. I’m a little scared of winning out and being in the playoffs, because I think we’ll get rolled by Bama, Clemson, LSU, etc
Even if we somehow win out, we will get left out, since this team obviously doesn't pass the "eye" test. Everyone/anyone who has watched any of our games know our team is not among the 4 best in the country
Nah we will probably be in. Will have a win over Michigan who has looked good the past 6 weeks.
we don’t look great right now. Win the next 3 and see where chips fall
I’m a little scared of winning out and being in the playoffs, because I think we’ll get rolled by Bama, Clemson, LSU, etc
Hey now, Clemson's also playing a 2-7 team today, so maybe they're the same as us! Let's check...nope, they beat their overmatched opponent by sixty-one points.
Okay yeah, we should be pretty terrified of seeing Clemson again.
Schiano needs to GO! There's nothing wrong that can't be fixed with playcalling. Just like the last 50 years.
We won. We could easily have lost. We showed improvement in the running game. We did not give up even though we had every reason to give up. Urban was calm. The offense looks very good and balanced. We probably learned more than if we won 49-0. Michigan will be favored in the Game, which helps us. If we win the Game, who cares that this game was close. And don't say we won't win the Game. I say 50-50 at this point.
I wish I shared your 50-50 optimism. They’re defense will make us completely one dimensional as well as getting tons of pressure. And our defense can’t stop anyone. At this point, we’ll be lucky not to get blown out by them
Will someone please hire Davis? Anyone? Any D-7 Ohio high schools looking for a coach? Please?
Keep him away from mine.
The truth just is what it is: this is not a good team and it's not improving fast enough.
They are a bunch of great players but they are definitely not playing like a great team right now.
depends how big you define "bunch."
Yay!! I was rooting for TOSU to win!! Go Buckeyes!! Haskins breaks completion record!! You had great special teams play!! You are 8 - 1, which is the best record in the Big 10 right now!! I hope you keep on winning the next two weeks. Show MSU what it is like for them to be on the side of an inexplicable loss. You can do it. You have more projected 1st round NFL picks than the REST OF THE BIG 10!!!!
Tbh you're one of the best posters here. Thanks for the win and good luck tonight. Hoping for a clean game
Shut the fuck up.
Has Michigan moved to the MAC yet?
Pros : Run game looked better. they legit made scheme adjustments to make up for having a throwing qb who cant run. the OL to me is fine, just not dominant. I really think these over zealous schemes are hurting the team on BOTH ends of the field. What happened to just controlling the LOS on defense?
Looked like a few too many inside stunts by the D-Line against a QB that could scramble, leaving the edges wide open.
Pros : ST has been a major upgrade from last season
Cons : Penalites, not mixing zone coverages on defense , awkward play calling in short yardage situations , not using tate in short yardage situations
Nebraska lost this game more than OSU won it...
Just enjoy the win, folks. 8-1.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
That's something a homer would say
Typical 2018 Buckeyes. The problems this week are not the problems before. Aside from the back 7 needing up 7 players. The 3 consective turnovers kept the children of the corn in the game. And it isn't like Haskins is a turn over machine. He didn't see the rush.
Sheffield cannot cover. I don't care how fast he is.
Werner cannot tackle. How is he a linebacker? Linebackers look like this.
Or like this.
Hilarious that we're still spotted so many points by the oddsmakers - I wouldn't give this team more than 5 in a mismatch and would put us at increasing odds to lose every game moving forward considering the level of competition and venues
Wahoo! Wahoo! Rip, Zip, Bazoo! I Yell. I Yell. For O.S.U.
That was painful. TTUN fans have already started salivating. Looks like they will finally get their W and Harbaughs ass will be safe for another decade.
I also have to say - isn’t Warriner their OLine coach now for TTUN? Oh to go back to him on the line and Ash/Fickell/Coombs. I’m starting to think crazy things. Someone talk me down off the edge. I’m really starting to question UFM bc the assistants keep changing, the kids change, but the issues stay the same?
^^^^ THIS x 1,000 ^^^^
Dude, Michigan State is probably going to get one.
Well they’ve already had their way with us even when we were playing better so I’ve been expecting that. Dantonio doesn’t have great players but he seems to have our number because we’re so....obvious my grandma might be able to out scheme us with a 2-3* talent roster.
Not having a player named Bosa on the DL for the first time in 5 years really exposes how mediocre the LBs are. I am in the camp of letting Browning, Hilliard and Harrison on most snaps. I don't care how "vocal" Borland is. Borland is ok, Werner is not. Way too many players run through his tackles.
Would be nice to see Brendan White start from here on out. He earned it. But he won't. Starters don't lose their jobs on this team. I'm certain Pete Werner will be graded a Champion though!
I think we all have to accept that this is not a play-off caliber team. 2 weeks to make the D better and they looked exactly the same. In fact, our D line looked worse as we couldn’t stop the run up the middle. As I saw it, the team came out flat, our game plan was weak on both sides of the ball, and I’m not seeing anything that suggests we can beat a quality team. Too much wasted talent. Sad
I'm a Buckeyes fan until my final breath. The standard that's been set here is higher than most other schools/programs. I believe this is why many of us are having grabbers as we watch this season unfold. Yes, our team is 8-1... but you can't feel good about how the defense is playing. Sometimes there's blind loyalty.....
Survive and advance. That was not pretty by any stretch. Loved putting Davis in as a TE a few times. Seems we really made an effort to run the ball. Few uncharacteristic fumbles and drops by our wideouts, but putting the ball on the ground that often overalls is bad
Offensively we would've been ok if not for the 3 turnovers.
Defensively I have nothing else to say except I have no use for Schiano at this point. We have recruited elite athletes year after year and we are constantly out of position and I can count on one hand the number of big plays/timely turnovers/hard hits etc from this defense all season. Inexcusable.
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
I agree on the turnovers. Last week was similar in an usual event kept them out of the endzone. Haskins needed air under the ball last week a few times. It was only his 8th start though.
I'm starting to doubt this team can get fired-up against ANYONE. Including TTUN.
First and foremost I’m disgusted with this team. How do you respond after being embarrassed on the national stage with two weeks to stew on it? Go out and pound a 2-7 team by 5 points that’s how!!!
In all seriousness, I was really encouraged by the fact that we could run the ball today. But I still can’t get over how obvious it is that Urban himself is holding this offense back. Probably an unpopular opinion, but when Urban’s on the sideline, we do nothing but attack the flats time and time and time again. We reach 3rd and 6 and we’re praying we can turn a 4 yard pass into a 7 yard gain with some YAC. Even with an explosive offense, it feels like every defense has us on our heels bc we don’t attack them. We simply try to get guys to the edge in space. And frankly, I think it’s BS. The first three weeks, we were carving people up being the aggressor and owning 15-20 yards over the middle of the field. Granted, we were playing crap teams, but I gotta tell ya fellas, Nebraska ain’t winning any trophies this year either. Nor is Indiana, or Minnesota, or Purdue, or....
Last point, nothing personal against Werner or Borland, but those two shouldn’t start on a MAC defense. They are so painfully slow and unatheltic it’s unreal. You wanna talk about two massive liabilities out there, if the ball carrier breaks the LOS, they’re basically evading two traffic cones incapable of tackling to gain 15 yards. I refuse to believe there’s no one who can at least run and tackle someone. Cuz those guys are awful.
I lied a second ago, cuz this is my last point. Brendon White is the first defender I’ve seen all year that looks like he actually wants to run people down and make plays. Guy had effort and energy all day long and should be the starter opposite Fuller from here on out.
Spend your days doing what you love.
Very disappointing to see our defense looked just as awful as they have all year, high-tackling unsurprisingly resulting in missed tackles, linebackers constantly out of position to make tackles on the running backs, once again our defensive coordinator out-foxed by a the opposition...
I was pleased to see Dobbins play today, but I don't know why we went away from it! Nursing a 9-point lead in the 4th quarter and we bring back Webber (who fumbled twice, missed a key block on Haskins' fumble, choosing instead to help block a guy who was already covered and flat out couldn't run up the middle to save his life!) and throw into 3 straight 3 and outs instead of doing what had worked, running out the clock with Dobbins!
Brendan White was a revelation, but why hasn't he had a chance to play with all the issues opposite Fuller???
I love Urban Meyer but this stuff falls on his shoulders and it's really baffling to me.
I am watching Michigan destroy Penn State here, and even though it's early in the game, I'm truly terrified of playing Michigan...
Hell, I'm terrified to watch the Buckeyes go to East Lansing next week - a game they should win, but I got a feeling our coaching staff will be out-foxed by Dantonio and drop another game to a less-talented team.
I sincerely hope to be proved wrong, but the only thing I see saving this season is beating Michigan. This isn't a National Championship contender, Alabama or even Clemson will wipe the field with the Buckeyes asses if they play in the CFP.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FIRE THESE DEFENSIVE COORDINATORS/POSITION COACHES IMMEDIATELY URBAN!!! (excluding Larry Johnson, of course!)
According to the game stats chart, we had 3 turnovers resulting in 14 points for the huskers. Add in our tackling and position shortcomings. This has to be fixed before we play TTUN.
Someone please point out that Alabama plays a cupcake schedule. Oh, but they eviscerate their cupcakes.
Well, let's see how they do tonight against LSU.
Onward and upward! Go Buckeyes!
Considering that we recruit almost at their level. what they do in absolutely demolishing the SEC West, we SHOULD be able to do it IU, Minnesota, and Purdue. PERIOD
If they come out Monday and name Werner (or borland) a defensive champion I will lose my fu*king mind. My wife and kids even see how much of a liability that Werner is. Offenses scheme to attack him and it works because he's so small and weak that he can't fight through a block. At this point the entire team is suffering because someone refuses to bench players who have no business being out there at this point in their career.
Really seems like Meyer's ditched meritocracy
Meyer ditched meritocracy with JT. It's obvious now how stupid it was to keep playing JT. Here comes Haskins after sitting the bench for 2 years and he's a projected 1st rounder half way through his first season throwing the ball. If Meyer would have played the best qb then we likely wouldn't be having this bitch fest, but noooo let's keep a first rounder on the bench so JT can get a job coaching high school ball somewhere in TX.
I couldn’t agree more. If Urban was coaching ND they would have at least two losses this year. He never would have played Book and benched Wimbush (ND’s version of JT). Urban is unable to make certain tough decisions.
That's exactly it...making hard decisions. I see this all the time- leaders afraid of making the right decision because of who it's going to tick off. Leaders have to stay focused on the objective and the results. In Meyer's defense, the results have been pretty good- other than Smith. But, it's catching up to him- it normally does catch most executives who are surrounded by a bunch of "yes men".
My primary concern (without watching the game a 2nd time) is the play of our DTs and MLB. I get the feeling that their poor play is sucking Werner inside to help and as you said he simply does not have the size and strength to help out inside. And his tackling on the outside has not been stellar either.
Team played alot better then the score would indicate. Get down field and fail to finish. The defense stepped up after half time. A few positive notes to build on. Still somewhat disappointing after 2 weeks of preparation.
a number of posts are praising the team's 8-1 record after todays squeaker...with a chance to go 9-1 next week. let's wait til we finish the season and then talk about how good the record is. i suspect the real pain is yet to come and when the final stats are certified, this year's version of osu foitball will not stand up to prior years. suspect there will be a wholesale house cleaning (although that rarely ever happens)..... staff and/or starters.
"...I was pleased to see Dobbins play today..." I have to give it to Dobbins. He plays with determination. One of the few I see with fire in his eyes.
JK's a beast. I wish he played the whole game.
This is a bad 8-1 football team. Imagine that. You would think the buckeyes lack highly rated football players and a no name coaching staff.
This PROVES we're a playoff team! Go Buckeyes!
OSU has to prove themselves the next 3 weeks.
Man, I fear East Lansing is going to be brutal for the Buckeyes. That may be enough to completely sink this team for the rest of the season.
Replace KJ Hill with CJ Saunders on punt returns. Do not trust him to catch punts.
When you have a lead in the 4th quarter, you are supposed to keep the clock moving and not throw three incompletions especially when your run game is finally working.
The offense played well, but if we’re gonna shit on the defense, we need to call out Haskins for fumbling the ball, the O-Line for not picking it up after they allowed the pressure that led to said fumble, and Hill for his fumble. Game might have been very different if not for those turnovers.
I think we’re in for another sloppy frustrating affair next week. Hope we can get out of there with a win.
Wait I thought it was gonna be an angry and pissed off team. That’s the secret right.
For me, the agony is over. I have resigned to the fact that we are not a good team and won’t be one for the rest of the season.
Nut on top
Yep. Maybe, a big maybe, they can beat Maryland, but I expect MSU to beat the Bucks. I expect MSU to be favored going into that game. A loss at East Lansing, alone, may finish OSU for the season, with losses then against Maryland and TTUN. A VERY disappointing 8-4 season, with major changes in the off season.
Well that is easily the best 2-8 team in the country.
Trying to be optimistic . . .
Better to have 3 turnovers and some missed tackles vs Nebraska than at MSU next week.
Got the running game going—hopefully, that continues.
Saw this coming just like everyone saw the 49-20 game coming Bro!
Wake up Buckeye fans. The coaches have lost this team whatever the reason. No fire, and brain farts everywhere.
Linebackers are lost.
Back 4 plays too far off their man
O-line is not getting low enough on blocks
You know, real hard stuff to teach and correct.
This team probably can't beat MSU, and TTUN game will be downright embarrassing.
First and goal at the five and Arch is getting the ball.
Teams take on the personality of the head coach ! He’s struggling with issues and so goes the team .
]This rushmen shit gotta go. It doesn't work without Bosa picking up double teams. We don't need 4 skinny guys looking for sacks. Michigan will run it down our fucking throats all day if you don't do something to make the interior stout.
Psu not doing us any favors. Ugly.
We weren’t supposed to need favors but....
Those of us old farts who have lived through the Hayes, Bruce, Cooper, Tressel, Fickell and Meyer years kinda understand.
We've reset the Big Ten. We're the top dog. But every other team is rebuilding itself to beat us, which is good for the conference overall, but we have to realize that ridiculous point spreads are just ... well ... ridiculous.
We all need to collectively wake up and realize that we're not going to win every game 72-0. A win in November in the Big Ten is a win. Just keep on winning.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
us old farts who have lived through the Hayes, Bruce, Cooper, Tressel, Fickell and Meyer years
True enough CC......I'd be in the old fart grouping
"Because it worked," Ryan Day says, laughing.
The joy of being an old fart is that someone else has to experience the aroma.
I am glad to see schematic changes to the offense especially the running game. I will take 239 yards against any team. Also, I expect (as a fan of tOSU) that if your offense scores 36 points there should not be any doubt that a W shows up in the column. Second, it was great to see Brendan White fly around on the defensive side and not missing on a bad angle. However, our linebackers continue to look terrible. These are four and five star recruits that continue to struggle. It is very hard for me to believe that this is the players problem. Since Bill Davis has arrived they have continued to get worse. At this point it is hard to imagine that anything will change with them, and the only thing is to hope for the best.
Watching this team is as difficult as seeing two guys dogpaddling trying to keep the Titanic afloat.
Upvote +1 for getting dogpaddling, two guys and Titanic into one sentence.
We are NOT GONNA BEAT xichigan..........
Glad to see we are playing like before Purdue!!!! Bad in the first half and good enough to win in the second. The D is what it is, inconsistent. The Offense is going to have to win games. Not really all that comfortable with that.
It’s looking like 9-3 and an Outback Bowl season at this point. Davis, Schiano, and Johnson need to update their resumes. Stud can go on offense. If Meyer doesn’t make those obvious moves after the season, it’s time to start the needed discussions about moving on. His loyalty and his refusal to stop overriding Offensive play calls are becoming his biggest failures as a coach. His body language is night and day from 3-4 years ago (no juice at all, granted this offseason was a ten car pile up). Agree that we need to reconsider the always recruit national kids over Ohio kids. Need more balance there, programs need the kids that would run through walls for their home state school. The team has a core of kids that could adjust and flourish next season to some seriously needed resets, but Meyer needs to begin planning that now, if he’s still not sure about that...then Smith needs to begin that process.
36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3"
I’m not sure what time it is, but Xichigan still sucks
Taver Johnson will be back. Meyer has never fired an assistant coach except for when he was forced to dump Zach Smith due to a major scandal. He takes pride in that statistic* and I just can't imagine any way he changes now. Also, one of Urban's promises with most new assistants is a mutual agreement for two years - they won't look for a new job one season after hiring and in exchange he won't push them to leave after one year either.
Davis, Schiano and Stud will hopefully have their contracts not renewed and/or be 'encouraged' to seek employment elsewhere (a'la Everett Withers, Tim Beck, Ed Warinner), but Taver Johnson is only in his first year, so its not happening. Mentally prepare yourself now.
(Same deal with Alex Grinch, in case you're disappointed in his first year results too)
*Dumb pride IMO. You sometimes see this attitude in business managers too and it's equally ridiculous. "Never firing someone" is similar to people who take pride in "I never take a sick day". It's statistically accurate, but it's prioritizing the wrong metric.
OSU have not addressed a suspect defense all season. The committee will never select them for the final 4; and rightfully so even if we get by the next 2 games. With one of the most talented teams in the country, our weakest link; the coaching, has been exposed. Time to move on from Urban.
WTH is wrong with this team??; I'm a fan and don't have any answers. But clearly something isn't right with this version of the Buckeyes..
There were a few bright spots but really this was a disgrace. This is one of the worst defenses in the nation. Can't believe anyone would we happy with this performance heading into games with MSU and Michigan. Haskins was average. Was throwing off his back foot. And come on, run the ball and expect contact. The WRs dropped a few balls. Werner, again was miss tackling machine. Can't figure our our he still plays. People, nebraska is a horrible team that was within one TD of winning this game. What a disgrace after a bye week! EveyetEvei heard the announcers mention the playoffs, I wanted to throw the remote at the TV! A disgrace! Meyer needs to make massive changes or maybe it's time for him to go. Any recruit at the game will probably not commit! And say bye bye to Harrison!!!
Again, what I see running through this thread is a lack of accountability at Ohio State. Guys make terrible plays again and again and again, yet pay no price for it. Jordan is no center. The rest of the o-line is average. The LBs are rotten, the secondary suspect, and that vaunted d-line? Average. If the starters can't lose their jobs - and at this point we have to conclude they can't - why would you expect much improvement?
One thing perhaps in the coaches' favor is I can't figure some Buckeyes out. That play Victor made against Penn State was terrific; really thought that might be the beginning of a memorable year for him. He was awful today, and you could tell by how we targeted him in the 1stQ Victor was supposed to play a bigger role today in the game plan. That hurt, to have #9 playing so badly when you're drawn up plans for him and Mack is out. That snowballed in to drops by Hill and McLaurin. But, hey, it's clear that at Ohio State a "starter" can't lose his job.
BTW, Cincy's defense looks great today. Let the discussion begin.
I thought that the defense acquitted themselves decently. The offense can't have three turnovers, and two consecutive three and out drives in the fourth quarter while throwing the ball on first down. After that short TD run I was disappointed that they didn't come back out with the three tight end Wyatt Davis machine again. The Parris Campbell run wide for a loss on third down on our first possession was an asinine call as well. So I think the offense deserves a spanking for how close the game ended up.
With my cheerleading of the defense, I will say that Borland, while I appreciate what he did last year, should have taken a medical redshirt. He can't move faster than a brisk jog. And I don't give a shit if Werner is Captain Fucking Fantastic at practice, he should never be allowed on the field outside of special teams. He may be a really nice kid, but he is awful as a linebacker.
I thougt that the defense acquitted themselves decently.
Becareful that you're not confusing Nebraska's offensive ineptitude with defensive competency on our part
I think we're all used to an Urban team of the past few years. This isn't those teams for more then a few reasons. But at the end of the day were 8-1. This is more like a Tressel team squeaking out games. I've been just like most everyone else thinking we should win by 40 but it's just not in the cards. We can easily still win out with this team so let's all take a deep breath and enjoy our 8-1 record.
With that said we do still need to fix some defensive issues. I'm sorry but where has Brendon White been??? Dude was flying around the field today! Those are the kind of guys we need on the field!
Borland and Werner need to take a seat! They don't have the instincts to make plays or the speed to make up for said lack of instincts.
Jones needs to start DE opposite of Young. We need run stuffers in the middle to take up blockers to let our LBs make plays!
Starting defense for me
DEs- Young and Jones
DTs- Hamilton and Garrett
LBs- Harrison, Browning, Booker
SFTYs- Fuller, White
Nickle back Wade and take Booker out.
To me Sheffield just isn't cutting it and is burned more then anyone!
Schiano needs to go. Davis needs to go!
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever
None of the Senator's teams were as sloppy, unprepared and undisciplined as this team.
You nearly took the words out of my mouth. Tressel's defenses were always rock solid. But, his loyalty to the Walrus ensured that the O-line was always undisciplined. Don't get me wrong, he had a lot of great O-linemen, but also a bunch of undisciplined knuckleheads too (e.g. False-Starts Shugharts)
@Rone: I really like your line-up much better than what the depth chart actually looks like. But, that defense is just downright awful in every aspect. The only thing that stopped the Huskers today were the Huskers themselves. I can count on one hand the number of good defensive plays today.
I will take Michigan State.....straight up !!!
For sure, if you’re a starter on this team and you stink all year-you will not be benched. So if Meyer won’t bench a player who doesn’t perform-Why would he can a coach who doesn’t do the job. Reminder-this was a true freshman QB who nearly beat us!!
I wonder how Frost got a frosh game ready his first season.
OSU should break the bank to hire Don Brown away from SCum. His defenses always over achieve. He does more, than OSU defensive coaches, with less talent.
We suck again!
I feel like the team has been sleepwalking through most of the season. It’s disappointing and we can expect more on the one hand, but we do have a sense of entitlement since the Urban era began. I too have lived through many mediocre seasons and I don’t ever want to experience them again but that’s not reality. I see the issues on the field and suspect problems off the field. But I have to laugh to hear so many calling for the heads of Urban and even Dwayne. Probably the same people who wanted JT gone. The team has lost 9-10 games in 6 seasons. Granted, each one has felt like a dagger through the heart but it doesn’t get much better than what we have had. And I do agree with whoever said this feels like a Tressel-type season. Ah, the memories.
Missing Luke Fickell and Kerry Coombs hurts!
I actually got to the shoe today for this one... I know is weird, and I'm expecting DV for this...but the game had this "ugh" feeling, I compared it to the feeling I had in the Gator Bowl circa 2011. It was a bad Nebraska team (much like a bad Florida team) that just seemed to exploit us even though we were clearly more talented. Hopefully a Primetime game against a solid squad will get them fired up.
He's so fast he makes fast people look, not fast
Mulling it over; watching what Clemson and TTUN did - it seems like malpractice to me, this coaching. It's tragic. To have a top 5 recruiting class year after year after year, and then play like this week after week after week (against Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue, 2-win Nebraska...). I've mentioned before how Ciron Black sued LSU when he went undrafted; probably a goofy lawsuit but Studrawa was his coach and he *never improved.* Our players are not getting better year after year, week after week. So not only are the schemes glaringly, embarrassingly bad, the fundamentals are lacking. I'm sorry, but this is coaching malpractice. It's not the old line about same thing repeated = insanity. At Ohio State, it's same thing repeated = incompetence.
Have the Buckeyes reached their ceiling yet? Y'all know...... the ceiling Meyer was talking about after the PSU game. Sky is the limit?
"We're going to give the ball to dumb-ass and grind meat"--Woody Hayes
Haskins has been slightly off the last three games. Several balls thrown high and wide of receivers. Defense is absolutely horrible. Schiano talks big but has never backed up his big mouth with a stout defense at Columbus. He needs to go. NOW. Victor still a disappointment. Balls bouncing off his pads because they went through his hands. Shit man we are two thirds through the season and guys still have no idea what they are supposed to be doing. Something is bad wrong and I think it’s coaching. Bring on the hungry freshmen. Tired of seeing sloppy players reacting way to slow . What a disappointment. So much talent and we still don’t have a team unit. Looks like all individuals playing.
Buckbuster.. I agree looks like a lots of individuals and NOT a team effort. Coaching staff needs addressed - player talent is there but guidance to success is not. Glad I DVR’d this game, watched at night, and got some of my Fall yard work done during afternoon game time. Upcoming schedule does NOT seem to play in favor of this team.
Is it just me or does Tuf look like he's in slow motion out there? Oh,wait....it's not me. I'm 38 with a bad wheel and I feel like I have a good chance at beating him in a foot race
We have 11 dudes on the field not 1 team !
I actually feel that the bacon on a stick at Nationwide is not too bad of a deal. You're going to pay a lot for anything, but not much can make me smile like the bacon does. I haven't seen Molsen this year though. I thought they used to have Molsen.
Can we please stop with all the CFP talk now,because this game shows that are weakness are going to be there the rest of the year honestly o dont think where a top 10 team .....that being said Go Bucks
Guess it will take a possible loss to MSU and ass kicking by michigan to have the coaching staff open their eyes and change personnel out there....God there are players who should be 3rd strong playing and missing tackles, making mistakes.