Clay Helton is Likely a Goner, Who Would USC Try to Hire?(James Frankin?)

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bucknut1994's picture

Zach Smith, Bill Davis and Greg Studrawa should all at least get interviews for the USC job. Great coaches

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Unky Buck's picture

54 upvotes to 0 downvotes (still counting) and this comment is still underrated.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

At 59 now, 10 more to go

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DeacBuck's picture

69. Boom. I've done it.

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Meek's picture

It has passed 69. Should I down vote it back to the Nice number?

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Unky Buck's picture

No...let it ride

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

I think an obvious answer might be Ryan Day. 

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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chris's picture

That would be cool from a general college football standpoint. Chip Kelly vs. Ryan Day in a rivalry and Day is a Chip protoge

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McGrind's picture

Yup...USC not going to dink around this time...they are going to open up the purse. Day seems a sure thing for the short list. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Clay Helton makes $3.8 million and Ryan Day makes $1 million. USC won’t have to dig too deep to afford him; something else to consider, though, is Helton’s buyout. 

USC is a top 10 job. I just don’t see them going for Day. They’re more likely to hire away a proven and established head coach.

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CC's picture

Name one.  Until Jimbo left FSU for TAMU I can't think of a coach leaving a blue blood for another blue blood in my lifetime (42).

With Saban and Urban winning so much there aren't that many proven head coaches.  How many guys are at non-blue bloods and can be considered proven?  Dino, Chip Kelly, Peterson, Patterson, Dabo and none of them seem likely to leave.

This will be interesting.

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CieGrant_Blitz's picture

It doesn't happen often but it does happen depending on your definition of 'blueblood.'  What is more likely since 1) they've already done it with great success and 2) it happens all the time (Harbaugh, Saban, Petrino, Bill O'Brien, Chip Kelly) is they will look to an NFL coach w/ college/USC ties.

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CC's picture

That would be the USC thing to do.

Funny enough it worked for ASU, I would have bet money ASU would be a total dumpster fire.

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CarolinaBuck's picture

But USC is notoriously cheap. It's not just the HC, but are they will to pay their coordinators upwards of $1M? Plus, the USC AD's, first with Pat Haden and now Lynn Swann, want to be too involved with the program. Chris Peterson was rumored to have turned the job down because of interference from the administration. 

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CC's picture

I thought they didn't have a president at the time which made money tight?  I could be mis-remembering.

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Hovenaut's picture

Greg Schiano, and I'm not kidding.

From two years ago:

https://fansided.com/2016/09/24/clay-helton-replacements-usc/

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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Zonabuck's picture

Schiano is a real wild card, IMO. Even with n validity, the nonsense around his Tennessee situation from last year was a game changer, and he’s not necessarily proving himself since Fickell left. I’m thinking he’ll either be a DC or go to a mid major. The only successful stint he’s had as a HC was in the Big East after all the teams with a pulse bolted for the ACC. 

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

I don’t know if I necessarily agree. We’ve had some pretty stout defenses since we’ve had him. Main problem is we never seem to game plan correctly and have to make 2nd half adjustments. As of late, I do t think the scheme matches our players strengths and a coach needs to identify that, so I definitely see what you mean.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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Zonabuck's picture

A lot of people don’t agree. There was a lot of discussion on this in the offseason, when several said it would’ve been just fine to see him go to Tennessee or elsewhere, and a lot said he was great. I still am of the belief that Ash was the best hire Urban has made to date, and he transformed the D from loose and vulnerable to tight and disciplined. Ash’s defenses gave us the most effective press coverage, but they were so good with the rugby style tackling that there were virtually no yards after contact. And it seemed to happen almost overnight. Since he left, we’ve regressed. A lot of people will point to 2016, when we had Hooker, Conley, Lattimore, but I think their talent masked the initial backsliding. Schiano’s tenure has been an era of increasing levels of inconsistency in technique, discipline and performance. It would be reasonable to expect a year here and there where we see a step back, but not two seasons and counting. I’d love to be wrong, but odds are not good. 

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Byaaaahhh's picture

I hope if Schiano leaves, that Ash comes back. I imagine OSU would take him, but I wonder if he could get over coming back. I think 3 years at Rutgers would change a man, though, and not in many good ways lol. 

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infantrybuck's picture

As it stands right now, that is honestly a plausible scenario and a trade that would work well for all parties 

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BradentonBuck's picture

Schiano = Ray Rice

only success he had was when he was there. 

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sharks's picture

Schiano's a known commodity. That the secondary isn't great this year isn't going to hurt him.

A man got to have a code...

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Especially with a D that is constantly pumping out early draft picks.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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tcm1968's picture

The ace up his sleeve has always been the ability to recruit the north east. that goes out the window if he moves to USC. Just doesn't seem like a good fit for either of them..

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RBurgundy4's picture

I still don't know how Helton got that job in the first place, but the fact that they're starting a freshman QB all year will probably get him a mulligan. My guess is that a lot will depend on how they play vs ND. That's a big deal for both schools. If they get waxed by ND he may be done. 

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McGrind's picture

He is a dead man walking...

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NHBuckeye's picture

Jeff Broham.  

I also wouldn’t mind seeing that squirrelly James Franklin head out of the B1G as well.   

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Seattle Linga's picture

Squirrelly is right - that dude is real close to a used car salesman

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NHBuckeye's picture

How could anyone not want this clown?

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Hoody Wayes's picture

I've been thinking Brohm or Franklin to USC, as well.

Who has the advantage? Brohm, I think, because his in-game coaching acumen is sharper than Franklin's (more of a program tweeker/sustainer).

I think Brohm at USC vs. Kelly at UCLA gets us to a restoration of that rivalry, quicker.  

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Kangarooman's picture

If I had to pick one guy Id want if Urban left, it would be Brohm. He's younger, too. Probably a better fit to get acclimated to West Coast culture. I think he should be number 1 option.

The Oregon coach looked great till they fell apart this week.

Id ask about Lincoln Riley but he's a Texas guy. It'd be a long shot to say the least.

Not a great year to find a head coach.

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lamplighter's picture

my first thought was Brohm.

second thought was Stoops (UK coach)

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rkylet83's picture

I’d swing for the fences and try to get Meyer.  It’s a long shot but it’ll never get easier than it is right now.  Meyer and Saban are the only true 100% home runs in the game.  

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

I love coach Meyer, but is he really a home run right now? Also, do you honestly believe Saban and Meyer are the only home runs? As much as I despise Franklin he did turn around PSU and just has a knack for motivating players, Swinney has been a hell of a coach with lesser talent, Kirby Smart is making things happen at UGA.  I think there are at least a half dozen home runs out there.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

If Franklin can win out this year, I might agree with you.  He makes some questionable in game calls that have led to key losses for PSU in the past few seasons. He still hasn't proven he can beat the big boys in CFB. And, no, Harbaugh doesn't count.

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Harbaugh is to Big Boys as Franklin is to Elite

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

But yes, I get what you’re saying. I was just speaking in general about turning PSU to a constant threat.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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tracyre's picture

naw, no way about Franklin. That guy is missing some pieces to that puzzle.  His whole presser after the OSU loss said it all. 

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chris's picture

Nah, they prolly want a guy who can score in the 4th.

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CptBuckeye24's picture

Franklin is a great recruiter and is a solid program builder, but I don't think he is a good coach. Overall, he is not an elite coach. He was on a hot seat going into the OSU game in 2016, which is a fluke game that had a bunch of weird things happen to get them the win. If OSU wins that game, I think Penn State is on an entirely different trajectory and he may not even be there. That win gave their program life and something to believe in. With that said, Penn State still won that game, but they really didn't beat us in any facet of that game other than the final score, which predominately occurred through random, fluke plays. OSU had a 75%+ chance of winning that game, even as high as 97% in the third quarter, for almost the entire game. If Urban took a timeout and didn't rush Durbin out there in a hasty attempt to beat the clock, their win may have never happened. 

I don't see how his program is actually developing players. Look at McSorley. I think he has regressed this year and I don't think Franklin develops talent. They also rely on a white-out game once year that makes the place tough to play. Franklin also had an elite OC in Moorhead for the 2016 and 2017 seasons that brought them to another level. Franklin gets outcoached, squanders late leads, and makes dumb decisions.  

USC is a top 5-10 job that should be able to land a coach of similar caliber and I don't believe Franklin is among those coaches.

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ZeroDimension's picture

Dabo became the coach he is, when he got Brett Venables from Oklahoma...  and I like Dabo, he is a top coach... but the ELITE status didnt come till he got a top DC.

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Zonabuck's picture

They also were paying Chad Morris $1.3MM to be the OC. Dabo is an energetic guy, good recruiter, liar, and has all the financial backing he’ll ever need at Clemson, which is about the size and scope of Miami University in Oxford. Clemson might be the school that broke down the barriers on assistant pay outside of the SEC, and we’ve certainly taken note. 

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Buckfrombirth's picture

I hate to admit it, but Swinney is a home run coach, no doubt about it. Kirby will probably get there too if his recruiting keeps up.

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Chargerbuck's picture

Dabo is not a USC type guy...  No Dabo...

I look for USC to go to the pro ranks—

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Agree. Dabo's not a USC guy. I was commenting specifically about him being a homerun coach. To deny that is pure homerism, IMHO. And I'm not calling you a homer, BTW.

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TXNut2488's picture

Ok good, because yes Dabo is a homerun and also Dabo is the bama coach after Saban leaves (Didn't he graduate from Bama?)

Anyway, the HR coach for USC is Tosh Lupoi...do I think they hire him? No, as others have said, they will be going after a proven coach with experience (nothing better than re-treads)

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Sanantonefan's picture

I see this a lot, but if he can keep in the national championship picture at Clemson, would he really go to Bama? The problem, as I see it, is it is very difficult to fill the shoes of the most successful (in terms of nat'l championships) college football coach of the past decade. Those are some good shoes to fill--one 2-loss season and you're on the hot seat.

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Zonabuck's picture

I think he only way Dabo leaves Clemson for Bama is if the Clemson program is in really solid shape and the Bama program needs to be resurrected. I don’t see him as Saban’s replacement, and I don’t see that it’s his dream job. He’s got his dream job. 

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stxbuck's picture

USC is not a "baptize em' on the 50 yardline" type of place.

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NHBuckeye's picture

I think there are a few other coaches that USC would consider home runs.   Kirby Smart, Dabo, Broham, Chris Peterson are a few that come to mind.  

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Nashville's picture

Kirby and Dabo, two Southern guys who are killing it in recruiting aren’t getting anywhere near USC. 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

.000000000000001% those guys would even think about applying, let alone interviewing and actually taking a job. People are just throwing out names to throw out names right now

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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logamaniac's picture

No, they would 100% make it public their agents are negotiating interviews and then just sign massive “don’t leave us” contracts.  Sabs does it almost every season and he doesn’t even need to. 

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MaxMermelstein's picture

Urban to USC doesn't make sense on a number of levels 

1) OSU is a higher profile program than USC.  Why leave an elite program to go rebuild a has-been?

2) Urban doesn't really even recruit the West Coast.

3) Urban is from Ohio. He has a degree from OSU and has family here. OSU will be his last coaching gig. Guaranteed.

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Spartan13's picture

I agree Urban likely won't leave I wouldn't put OSU much farther ahead of USC. USC isn't that great right now an still dominate California in recruiting. If they can turn into a title contender they should pull in top 3 classes easy. OSU is in a good football state and has to compete with Michigan and PSU right on our doorstep. The Pac-12 is a complete joke right now somebody should take advantage before it reverts back to normal. I don't think it will be Urban but I do think another big name coach that nobody thinks will leave their current job(James Franklin) will go live in LA and dominate a weaker conference. 

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

And flip all his recruits to follow him!

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McGrind's picture

Pac 12 is ripe for the picking...Wash State going to win it. Come on man ;) 

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BuckminsterFullback's picture

He has a degree from OSU

UC, actually.

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DaiTheFlu's picture

He has a master's degree from Ohio State, also.

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BuckminsterFullback's picture

Well, dang. I guess I'd better get out of my chair, so I can stand corrected.

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ShaneFalco's picture

Both actually.....

I read blitz

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stuckupnorth's picture

Dabo Swinney has got to be there as well

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You can't spell chump without UM's picture

Pete Carroll.

Don Brown must've attended night school, because he got owned by Day.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I see your Pete Carroll and raise you a Lane Kiffin.

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goodlifesean's picture

I would look at Brohm, Day... They need a QB guy. Brohm with SC talent legit scares me.

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AnotherBuckeyefan's picture

I would love to see what The Pirate could do at a school where he can get top athletes.

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USNbuckeyeBG's picture

Chip Kelly. Would be ultimate power move to UCLA 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

I’ve seen a few people mention James Franklin. That is about as likely as Harbaugh to Ohio State.

i think they should look at Campbell from Iowa State, Ryan Day and Jeff Brohm to name a few 

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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McGrind's picture

If you think Campbell you don’t understand LaLa land. 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

What do you mean?

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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Eph97's picture

Live in LA where USC football is a bigger deal than the Rams and Chargers or the middle of nowhere PA? 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

PSU is home to Franklin, that’s his forever job. LA is LA, but when football is your life, I would much rather coach somewhere where football is the 1st 2nd and 3rd priority. 

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Eh....I dont think so. I think Franklin jumps ship to any "better" opportunity.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

There’s literally zero % chance Franklin leaves PSU. Like Bill Belichick to Ohio’s State % chance

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

So he's the next Paterno? You think that was his dream job?

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

I don’t know if he will last that long. I’m just certain he doesn’t willingly leave PSU

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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stxbuck's picture

Franklin is a Pennsylvania native. Like Dill said, PSU for life for him.

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Independence Village 22's picture

Franklin loves the limelight and attention. Match made in heaven.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

I have to think Tee Martin at least gets an interview. D-coordinator Clancy Pendergrast has a ton of experience. They always seem to go for West Coast guys. Brohm is from Lousiville; does he have a pull to Left Coast? Kyle Wittingham?

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stxbuck's picture

Wittingham is a Utah native-I doubt he is overly interested. Brohm, imo, is waiting for Petrino to get canned at Louisville. The Colorado coach might be a "safe" choice for USC.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Urban

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Txsbuckeye's picture

I am available

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NHBuckeye's picture

He doesn’t need the money though.  

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Jdadams01's picture

Underrated comment. Shade to multiple places here. ND, Kansas, Weis himself.

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Buckshot10's picture

Weis throws shade to all those places by just standing.....blocks out the sun to much of the midwest

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Hanawi_'s picture

Whittingham would be a good hire. They may try to throw money at Petersen and see if he'll leave Washington. Otherwise, Day would probably be up there.

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Chargerbuck's picture

Day is a Chip Kelly protege....  would definitely spice up USC vs. UCLA...

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Penn State is a better job. They are King in PA and the East coast. Any more USC is just one of many on the Left coast. 

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CC's picture

They are king of CA recruiting and play in a soft conference.  I don't know how much USC pays coaches etc, but the facilities just got an upgrade.  They are set up for big time success with the right coach.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Then why does out of state Oregon and Arizona get more then their fair share? 

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CC's picture

I don't know how to define "fair share" when it comes to recruiting.

Look at the last 15 years, you could probably take an all star list of the AZ schools and Oregon schools and be similar to what USC gets by itself.

Edit:  2018 proves the point

USC 4 5* players, 13 4* players

ASU, Oregon and Arizona combined - No 5*, 14 4*

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GoBigRed's picture

If they are smart, Mike Leach.

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Zonabuck's picture

Leach has to be in the right environment, and I don’t think a blue blood and their fan base would be a good fit at all. The expectations at Texas Tech or Wazzu is perfect for him. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Leach thrives in a situation where's he's the underdog and he's at a school that lets him run his program his way and some of his idiosyncrasies fly under the radar. I'm not not things would work out well for him at a USC and I think they will want someone who is viewed as less of a wild card.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

idiosyncrasies

Diplomatically stated.  

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

I think Kyle Whittingham (Utah) and Mario Cristobal (Oregon) make sense. 

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Kangarooman's picture

I would have called Cristobal the heavy favorite until the Arizona collapse.

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kmp10's picture

Clay Helton is exactly what happens when the adults responsible for hiring a head football coach for one of the ten greatest programs in college football history allow teenagers, i.e., the players and recruits, to influence their hiring decision. The players like him? Who cares. Go get someone befitting that program, and if the players don't like it show em the door. Clay Helton was a massive misfire. 

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Cruiser72's picture

I think the point will be moot when LA slips into the pacific after the La Brea tar pitts blow up, and Yogi Bear comes in to take over

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Eph97's picture

People here are crazy equating USC with PSU. USC is a top 5 job. PSU is more in the 7-10 range. USC gets the cream of the crop of the west coast recruits and also recruits nationally. PSU has to fight with OSU for East coast recruits. That combined with a section of the PSU fanbase not exactly enamored with Franklin's skin tone, I'd think he would give them a serious listen if they came calling. Do think USC will make a run at Urban for a splash hire. Urban can't be happy how Drake didn't have his back.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

This is Urbans last coaching job, also Penn State > Any other Job to Franklin. Not to you or I. 

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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Kangarooman's picture

Idk man. Why are you so sure about this?

He's about to lose his third and final golden goose (after Barkley and his old OC). He's a business man. This is probably the time to cash out if USC calls.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

There would be no cashing out, Penn State would pay him anything USC was willing to pay him. James Franklin is a PA native, I doesn't get bigger than PSU for him. 

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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Nutinpa's picture

This. ^^     I can't believe we are talking about Franklin leaving for USC.  

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CptBuckeye24's picture

I'd put PSU barely in the top 15 jobs.

Ohio State, Alabama, Texas, USC, LSU, Georgia, Clemson, Auburn, Florida, Michigan, ND, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and FSU are all better jobs for coaches then PSU. Heck, even Oregon might be a better job that Penn State. 

PSU may be nearing the ceiling as a program for sustained success. I'd argue Auburn and a few others are just a great coach away from being an elite program with sustained success.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Cpt - It doesn't matter what you or I would rate PSU as. I would personally take Penn State over Florida State, and Oregon any day of the week. That's just me. James Franklin would take PSU over almost any of those schools if not all of them. 

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

James? Is that you?

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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bigtenspeed's picture

It was well known for years when he was at Vanderbilt that PSU would be his next job and that it was his dream job. Franklin isn’t going anywhere.

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CptBuckeye24's picture

Right, It doesn't matter. Allegiance, personal connections, and best fits aside, I think FSU is a better job. Locations, recruiting, facilities, and conference affiliation makes FSU a better job than Penn State. Clemson is king in the ACC but FSU should he challenging them each year. Fisher quit on them because he wanted to go to A&M and get that contract. It's easier to win at FSU than PSU.

Franklin is a PA guy and that's why he probably isn't going anywhere. It's home for him.

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Nutinpa's picture

No offense, but I think you are letting your bias against PSU cloud your judgment.  PSU has more football heritage (now we know a blemished one, but a heritage nonetheless) than several of the schools you mentioned. Saying Oregon was a better job is where you lost me.  PSU is a top 10 job in cf, no matter what our biases are. Go there for a football weekend and you'll see what I mean. 

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CptBuckeye24's picture

I have been out there and it is quite impressive. I'll give them that. But I'm going to respectfully disagree that they are really a top 10 job in college football. I said Oregon might be top 15 and I think Oregon and PSU are similar in their job ranking/desirability. A program's desirability is more than just program history and heritage. It's location, facilities, recent history/success, overall history, conference status, administrative stability, financial resources, and a large budget. I don't see how Penn State is ranked higher than Ohio State, Alabama, Texas, USC, LSU, Georgia, Clemson, Florida, Michigan, ND, or Oklahoma when you consider these factors.

I think Oregon could be a better job because they have excellent facilities, Nike's money, and the Pac-12 is easier to win than the B1G. Helfrich wasn't ready to handle Oregon. When Chip Kelly left for the NFL, Oregon was definitely a top 15 job, maybe 10. The things that make a job appealing to coaches are really still there. Sure, Helfrich left them broken in some ways but Oregon has a very high ceiling as a program and I think it's higher than Penn State's. I think the last 10 years reflects that, PSU scandal aside.

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Nutinpa's picture

We'll shake hands and disagree over a beer.  Plus I would never say PSU is "higher" in prestige or any other factor than OSU, Bama and the others.  But it is among them IMHO.   The comparison to Oregon is a thought-provoker, I'll grant you that.  I think what holds Penn State back as a desirable place to coach, as Bill O'Brien found out.....is Paterno's shadow and legacy, for better or for worse.  Otherwise, it remains one of the top coaching destinations, and to a large degree, its funding, resources, etc. are right up there with most leaders in this field.  

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

A lot of these jobs are somewhat interchangeable when you get into the top 15 and it really then depends on how good the coach is.  LSU was a mediocre program for quite awhile before Saban came around. So was Bama. PSU is well located to recruit the Northeast and pick off some nice targets elsewhere. I'd argue they have a better built-in recruiting base than Michigan. They also have the advantage of being the dominant program on campus with no competition for that spot. To me the main difference for a coach at that point is where he wants to be located and what he is going to be paid. 

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BABuckeye's picture

After comments here that Schiano: 1) has seen his stock drop and 2) is at his best recruiting the Northeaat and East Coast, do we think Schiano to Maryland is the move this off season, or does he carry too much baggage?

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Crumb's picture

I could actually see that one. Or back to Rutgers in a straight up trade with Ash. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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TkeBuck's picture

rumor that todd marinovich is frontrunner if helton is jettisoned. after all, he IS a trojan and would make a damn fine ambassador for usc.

jt

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

I once smoked a joint with Marinovich at a SXSW show (Guided by Voices, I believe; fitting) back in the day. I'm sure he would love to coach, but he's still playing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/sports/football/todd-marinovich.html

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stxbuck's picture

Uh, no-USC is not going to hire someone whose substance abuse record makes Cutty Sark look like a Mormon!

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coachlehew's picture

DAY might be good in the passing no defense conference ,just not sold on him being good fit for Big Ten that is my take! Must run the ball have a scheme that can do it not the flag football scheme we are  trying to play at the moment!!!!!!

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RBloodworth's picture

I wouldn’t put it past the realm of possibility for SC to make an offer at Urban, and he might listen.  That said, I see it far more likely that he retires after this year than leaving for SoCal.  I’m going to parrot Joel Klatt and say that SC makes a run at a guy already familiar with the sidelines of the Coliseum:  Sean McVay.  I don’t believe that he makes that much by NFL standards, and would be a great fit in the college game.

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kmp10's picture

I think you're right in saying that McVay isn't particularly well paid, relative speaking, but why would he want to go backwards, RB? He is THE young climber in all of football, and if anyone attempts to lure him away, the Rams will pay what they have to in order to keep him. In the NFL there is no recruiting. It's all football, all the time... and that is a massive plus, imo. If I were a college head coach whose skills and personality were suited for the pros, I'd get there as fast as I possibly could, if only so I never had to kiss 17-year-old ass and deal with parents ever again. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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stxbuck's picture

No doubt-McVay is tearing it up in the NFL and he's young enough not get misty eyed about college for the hell of it. Besides, winning a Super Bowl in LA will make the coach king of the town way more than winning an NC at USC or UCLA.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

I don't want to keep coming off as "know it all guy", but no, Urban wouldn't listen for a second unless it was to get more money out of Ohio State. Urban is in his last coaching job. 

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

They need somebody with pro experience. Herm Edwards should be at the top of their list after kicking the Trojans’ asses last night. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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KeithMC33's picture

If I’m a USC booster or avid fan, I’m expecting them to back the Brinks truck up for Lincoln Riley. You need a guy who will put points up on the scoreboard and get that showtime vibe that other teams in LA have. Anything short of a big name coach would be a disappointment. 

For the record, I can’t see any way Riley would take the SC job unless they offered him a massive salary. He’s got it pretty good in Norman and I can’t see him leaving anytime soon. I would really like to see him coach my Cleveland Browns, but that’s another topic for another day. 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

OU would just pay him anything USC would. Riley isn't going anywhere. As a Browns fan, I would take Riley in a second, why not? Nothing else has worked. 

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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Texas Voice's picture

If the Cowboys finally decide to move on from Jason Garrett, I would assume Riley is their top choice.

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westcampus's picture

USC isn’t hiring some rube from the south or southwest. my money is on Kiffin returning. USC a tough job to hire for because cost of living issues make any salary — especially for assistants —count for a lot less. 

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Crumb's picture

Stoops?

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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Crumb's picture

I pray they lure Harbaugh back to California. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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logamaniac's picture

There’s a guy named Pete that’s already in the pnw. 

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Buck’em all.'s picture

Willie Taggart. 

Lol

He somehow seems to keep falling into jobs he’s vastly unqualified for —- Oregon, FSU. The guy is literally a below .500 coach lifetime (51-54). Somehow, Florida State thought it would be a good hire. Haha

Kevin Sumlin is another underachieving, in-over-his-head buffoon.

But, hey, I’m sure The Undefeated thought they were really inspiring hires. 

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Buxki84's picture

Marvin Lewis.

I'd rather be a minute early than an hour early, 'cause I like to procrastinate.

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Buxki84's picture

Jim Tressel?

I'd rather be a minute early than an hour early, 'cause I like to procrastinate.

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Txsbuckeye's picture

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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HINYG8's picture

Exactly how many bees stung you, Bret?

All of them.

And on fourth and one... would you believe?

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I am Kirok's picture

I think they will TRY to take a proven Head Coach.
Therefore that eliminates Hue Jackson (Damn it)
Best bets to me are
Brohm
Campbell
Major Applewhite
Neal Brown

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Honestly, Ryan Day seems like the perfect candidate for that job. He showed his chops and ability to develop a QB.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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TXNut2488's picture

This is a fun debate, but some of these names are nuts haha....no way Urban leaves, no way Lincoln Riley leaves, no way NO WAY McVay leaves....

I think it's Tee Martin's job if he wants it. BUT realistically, the guy I'd be calling is Tosh Lupoi who is Bama's DC right now but if I'm thinking right, is a west coast guy (think he was a coach at Cal and UW?) Doubt they are pulling any current big 10 coach as that doesn't make much sense. So after talking out my thoughts I think the list would be Tee Martin, Chris Peterson, Tosh Lupoi, and Mike Locksley.

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Beast43's picture

Hire fickell

Who want's to be average.......ta Hell with that.

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TarBuck's picture

I think they might actually take a swing at Dino Babers.

• has Syracuse ranked for the first time since 2001 

• has played close/beaten Clemson and Florida State in the 3 years he’s been HC

• used to recruiting to a private university 

• runs a high-scoring air attack / West Coast offense

• has phenomenal QB development (Jimmy Garoppolo, Eric Dungey)

• born in Hawaii, raised in southern California, played ball in Hawaii

• 34 years of coaching experience

- 14 years on the west coast

- 11 years in the PAC-12 (ASU, Arizona, UCLA)

He nearly beat Clemson again this year, and looks to be in the driver’s seat for 2nd in his conference division. If Syracuse can knockout a Top-3 Notre Dame, you better believe he’ll start getting some serious attention.

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labuck's picture

This is what i was thinking as well. Makes too much sense.

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pennysaver92's picture

I think that would be a big mistake for USC.  Having watched some Cuse games over the last 2 years, he makes terrible coaching decisions that costs his team the game. 

Clemson did everything they could to lose the game to the orange this year.

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neo's picture

Wonder if they'd consider Bob Stoops.

"Let's beat the shit out of Michigan. Have a good night." - UFM

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

Are we even sure USC is still that great a job? Here's a list of every coach they've had since John Robinson left:

Ted Tollner

Larry Smith

Paul Hackett 

Pete Carroll

Lane Kiffin

Ed Orgeron (interim)

Steve Sarkisian

Clay Helton

That's a period of 35 years. Since they beat the Buckeyes in the Rose Bowl on January 1, 1980, they have only finished in the top five once with a team that Pete Carroll didn't coach (the team that beat Penn State in Pasadena a couple of seasons ago). If not for Carroll's run, they would basically be Iowa.

I'm just not all that sure they can get some superstar coach in there. Even Carroll in 2001 was seen as a reclamation project, not a home run. 

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Miss Walker's picture

Sean McVay is their best bet.  

Offer him the moon.  Tell him the NFL is only temporary and he could be a legend at USC.  

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Hanawi_'s picture

I like the Babers thought. I'm also wondering if they'll try to hire a USC man and go after someone like Jack Del Rio.

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Since64's picture

Uhhhhh Don't forget both Stoops Brothers are currently unemployed!

NONE are more hopelessly Enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free!

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BrewinBuckFan's picture

USC is going to pay a nine figure sexual assault settlement, the donors are already pissed about the kiffin/sark era. I'm not sure they'd be willing to stomach a buyout right now ok or pay enough to lure a top coach. Remember LA is wayyy more expensive than Columbus/ State College etc

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Kothari's picture

No doubt, they will come after Urban. 

Dr. Buckeye

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

As anyone should, he’s Urban Meyer. Also no doubt Urban Meyer says no.

“My people are a peaceful people, we cannot protect ourselves.”

”My people are not peaceful, we will protect you.”

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tekk69's picture

Jason Gwaltney

Ben Martin

Trey Depriest

Jordan Hicks

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Kothari's picture

Urban is gone. Don't believe what he says. He believes it now, but the summer is a long ways off. Think about it. We take some significant loses to end this season. He gets interviewed at USC. The Pac 12 is down (he can dominate). Cali recruiting (he will love that). USC needs a rebuild (he loves doing that). USC is a very prestigious university (who wouldn't like that). He gets a shot a Chip Kelly annually (got to like that). Finally, he gets to win a title at 3 different school (no ones done that/no one probably will). Forgot, they pay him 10 mil a year for 5 years. You know what this spells, Gone!

Better off with Day anyways. He can relate to young athletes and is more of a dynamic play caller. Were back in the playoff in 2020. 

Dr. Buckeye

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WesBranscum's picture

hahah Day has been around college kids for what, 3 years? haha you're reaching 

WesBranscum

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O H Y O's picture

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this because I haven't read all the comments as I'm limited on time trying to be sneaky at work on here, but I would not be surprised if USC goes all in for Urban Meyer after this year. Urban was quoted this week saying he plans on coaching next year, but he didn't specify that he plans on coaching "here." 

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troyciceronotsmith's picture

More realistically than Urban Meyer or James Franklin, Hue Jackson is looking for a job. Hes from Los Angeles. Also he was a position coach at USC in the late 90s.

Clemson student. GO BUCKS!

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