Dream Crusher Bowl: Purdue at Michigan State

Show All Comments

bucknut1994's picture

Who sponsors the dream crusher bowl?

#94Ways

HS
earthpig's picture

Wilson nut crackers...

Pigskins & Porkrinds

HS
Hoody Wayes's picture

Companies operating within the marriage-industrial complex.

HS
E2Brutus's picture

Brought to you by the colors black and yellow

HS
NavyBuckeye91's picture

Martha Stewart Weddings, Inc. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

HS
bucknut1994's picture

You like Navy + the points tonight? 

#94Ways

HS
NavyBuckeye91's picture

No. They’re bad this year and ND is legitimately good. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

HS
DrSpaceman's picture

Michigan States really the only team that’s screwed us over more than once in the Urban Era so I’ll go with them.

"Medicine is not a science" - Leo Spaceman

HS
NavyBuckeye91's picture

Three times: Big Ten CCG, 2015 regular season, and by beating UM and losing to Nebraska in the same season. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

HS
Ps it's's picture

Michigan gets that punt off the Buckeyes have another natty

you don't got to be Stonewall Jackson to know you don't want to fight in a basement

HS
Kurt's picture

Don't forget their game against Penn State in 2016.  When we needed them to pull an upset out of their ass they laid an egg instead.  I hate them with every fiber of my being.

HS
earthpig's picture

Makes last Saturday's L look even more ridiculous..

Pigskins & Porkrinds

HS
Dillon G's picture

No, it proves both teams last week were out of character. I fully acknowledge the "glaring" problems.

#walkaway

HS
keith7456's picture

Adrian Martinez and Stanley Morgan Jr/ JD Spielman. are going to eat the buckeyes defense alive next week. It is going to be a repeat of Blough/Moore.

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

Wow Buckeyes lose one game and suddenly Nebraska are a high octane hellbeast offense. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
keith7456's picture

Umm have you seen our defense this year? They make everyone's offense look good. Also Nebraska has a very good offense. They had 659 yards of offense last week.

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

There's something to be said for form and momentum, and yeah, Nebraska are probably better than their 1-6 (soon to be 2-6) record indicates. That said, if there's one thing I'm confident about with this OSU team right now it's that they'll be able to take down a not very good Nebraska team at home. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
domeeye's picture

Objectively I am not super confident about Nebraska. I think we'll win, but I wouldn't put a ton of money on it. They killed Minnesota...

HS
linepilot15's picture

and if we are truly honest Minnesota had a real chance to beat OSU. They had three turnovers, two of which was in the red zone, missed two field goals and got jobbed on a spot in the first quarter that would have given them the ball back at midfield leading already. The Bucks were leading by six going into the fourth quarter and scored two late TD's to put the game away and make it look more lopsided than it was.

I think we'll win if they made some improvements on defense. If they didn't it would shock me one bit to see em lose.

linepilot

HS
keith7456's picture

I'm not saying I think we'll lose I'm just saying I would bet that nebraska puts up at least 30.

HS
rkylet83's picture

I agree.  I’d put Spielman in the slot and run to the vacated area (where linebackers should be) and attack Pryor all game.  Purdue did it, Minnesota did it and Indiana did it and we haven’t adjusted once.  Why not?

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

Honestly I hope Purdue wins out, and not just because it would make our loss look less egregious. Them winning the B1G West would be a beautiful sports story. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
teddyballgame's picture

Same.  Lot of respect for Brohm

HS
BuckeyeGrl5's picture

Well it’s tied....so I wouldn’t say they are Purdueing it quite yet

"I love football.  I think its the most wonderful game in the world and I despise to lose" - Woody Hayes

HS
actionstanleyjackson's picture

Michigan State has legit defensive coaching that know how to scheme and can adjust. Ohio State does not. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

HS
NorthBerg's picture

Yeah thru 3qts, Purdue has 190 yards offense, against the Bucks , they had 500+.

That is the reality of the OSU defense. There is no sugar coating it, OSU 's defense is not even middle of the road in the Big 10.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

HS
steve-OH's picture

Ditto...

Watching their defense shut them down over and over, limit big plays, etc, is killing me. Knowing the level of athletes we have compared to MSU, this is gross to watch and remember how awful we looked.

Reality is that it's all simple fundamentals that we ignored.

HS
Hovenaut's picture

Moved to College Sports.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

"Rocky Lombardi" may be the ultimate sports name. 

Is Lewerke injured?

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
rkylet83's picture

He was injured for the Michigan game last week and they played him limited anyway.  Dantonio’s stubbornness cost him big.  Lombardi might have been more effective.  

HS
Hoosierbuck7's picture

I rarely look at these games for comparisons. Ohio St always get conference teams best shots and almost always have a hangover. 

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” - Urban Meyer

HS
youra6's picture

This is not and was never a reason or excuse for why teams play well against us.

We just have to accept that OSU has one of the worst defenses in the B1G. We have given up big yards against nearly every opponent we have played.

That says more about us than our opponents.

HS
Hoosierbuck7's picture

It’s not excusing the flaws this team has.

That said, anyone with perspective understands that these are 18-22 year old kids (most on the lower end of that window). Emotions play a bigger role in this game than most admit. 

Not accepting that also says more about a fan’s awareness than about the players. 

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” - Urban Meyer

HS
rkylet83's picture

Michigan State is showing us how to stop Purdue.  Keeping the plays in front of them and reading and reacting.  

HS
keith7456's picture

Can't be done when the LBs are starting on the line of scrimmage 85% of the time. 

HS
NorthBerg's picture

But by reading first then reacting the defense cannot make the big highlight reel play! S/

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

HS
rkylet83's picture

Seeing where the play is going before you commit is overrated.  It takes real courage to run to spot where the play may or may not be!  

HS
bodene's picture

MSU has a superior defense scheme. They play a quarters, zone blitz,4-3 base defense. OSU is a man free agreesive defense susceptible to big plays.

Bodene

HS
OhioStGoon's picture

The more I'm watching this game the more I'm convinced this is Urban's last year here at OSU. This is a terrible team we got destroyed by in Purdue that will indeed go on to get destroyed by MSU which tells me the coaches at OSU weren't and aren't even trying at this point.

GO BUCKS

HS
actionstanleyjackson's picture

Really wasn’t that hard to figure out how to stop Purdue. Disappointing that our coaches were too stubborn to do it 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

HS
Buckeye_Since_1997's picture

The D actually hung in there for 3 quarters and two of their TDs came after special teams blunders. I wonder if the D just gave up in the 4th or were worn down form being on the field so much. 

HS
E2Brutus's picture

A good coach knows how to adjust their scheme to combat the team they’re matched up against. This staff has struggled with this all year. MSU knows what they’re doing when it comes to this as they have proven against us several times in the past.

HS
estbuckeye74's picture

Total agreement actionstanley. Don't know why OSU has to actually lose a game before any type of schematic changes occur.

HS
domeeye's picture

Interested to hear, do you guys think it's better if Purdue or Michigan State wins this one? I kind of hope Michigan State wins to keep us more focused and afraid of them when we play them.

HS
SSNET's picture

We made Blough look like Johnny Unitas.

MSU makining him look like Johnny Weir.

HS
RMLogic's picture

Cant wait to see Schiano put our MAC level LBs back out there against Nebraska. Lets ignore only the great Kent State and UConn defenses have given up more big plays than OSU.

The incompetent defensive coaches - Schiano and Davis should have been fired. 

Maybe Urban just doesnt care because he is leaving anyway.

HS
E2Brutus's picture

Dont agree with everything you said but I’ll agree that Davis needs to go and by proxy Schiano’s scheme has looked awful with a ton of talent on that side of the ball.

HS
steve-OH's picture

This "MAC level" comment in regards to our LB's is getting old man. You keep saying it over and over on these forums. 

HS
kmp10's picture

Mark Dantonio is twice the football coach Urban Meyer is, but he's not 1/10th the recruiter. I finally figured out (I'm slow) why Meyer is so irritating to many of his coaching brethren... he wins because he's the best talent accumulator not because he's a good football coach, and that bothers the holy dog snot out of the football guys. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

HS
RMLogic's picture

You obviously did not watch Meyer coach Utah to an undefeated season or take a 7 loss team OSU team to a 12-0 record.

Plus I guess you never watched Dantonio run the ball up the middle 30 times against Bama and lose 38-0. Or go 3-9 two years ago. Dantonio is a slug.

HS
kmp10's picture

Utah Meyer and current day Meyer are two different guys. Things change, people are passed by, once innovative philosophies become ingrained and are present day failures, and motivations fade. Meyer is failing this team and program, and he has been since August. Can he return to what he once was? I hope so, I don't want him to go anywhere... and if you think Dantonio is a 'slug' then I'd say you're misinformed. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

HS
youra6's picture

I also don't understand why people bring up things that happened over a decade ago. Meyer isn't even the same coach from 3 years ago.

HS
Hoosierbuck7's picture

Why in the world does Buckeye Nation start romanticizing every other program and coach after a single loss? Legit question. 

Dantonio and co lost to a lousy ASU team (with less talent) and almost to Utah St. They’re 4-3. Quit the hagiography of Dantonio and support the guy who has one of the winningest records in the sport. Young team...they’ll bounce back.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” - Urban Meyer

HS
RMLogic's picture

Because alot of fans still hate Meyer after he beat their Dantonio clone  boy Tressel by 30 pts in the NC game.

Dantonio looks like he has a terminal case of bad hemorroids.

HS
Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

I respect Dantonio a ton. He is a really good coach. He does usually look like someone just let a horrible fart.

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

HS
The Rill Dill's picture

We were the youngest team in America when Clemson  beat our brains out 31-0, two seasons ago. Now we’re young again?

HS
Hoosierbuck7's picture

I’m not sure how to respond to this. What is so shocking about being young every couple of years in CFB at a school that pumps a ton of talent into the NFL?

Don’t believe me, check out the scholarship count: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/scholarship-grid 

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” - Urban Meyer

HS
FTWinfrey08's picture

LOL. Dantonio is a peewee coach compared to Meyer. 

Let me remind you of the teams with less talent that MSU has lost to:

ASU 2018

NW 2018, 2017, 2016

Indiana 2016

BYU 2016

Maryland 2016

Illinois 2016

Nebraska 2015

I'm going to stop there and not mention the games Dantonio coached teams eeked out against sister of poor teams.

HS
E2Brutus's picture

How many 1st Downs does Purdue actually have at this point (end of the 3rd quarter)?

HS
E2Brutus's picture

Just looked... 210 yds and 12 first downs. Not exactly “prolific” status.

HS
RMLogic's picture

It always helps not to have 2 slug MAC talent LBs playing against Purdue.

HS
actionstanleyjackson's picture

Adios Wisconsin. Iowa and northwestern should be there in Indy 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

HS
Hateblue's picture

Can’t wait until the comparisons begin that we will get trounced by MSU if they beat Purdue. By that same logic, Northwestern is on the same level as scum, because they’re dominating Wisconsin. You can’t compare two games as a predictor of what will happen. 

HS
cledaybuck's picture

Northwestern vs. UM Was very competitive.

HS
Hateblue's picture

Yes it was. But I’ll put money on scum to blow them out 9/10 times. 

HS
Hateblue's picture

Iowa smoked us last year, and then got beat by Wisconsin. Any comparison would have said Wisconsin would wreck us, but we beat them. 

HS
NavyBuckeye91's picture

The transitive property of football is a fallacy of epic proportions. Good teams lose to lesser teams all the time. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

HS
BradentonBuck's picture

The NFL week to week is mind boggling. Teams look like SB contenders one week then shit the bed against lesser talent regularly. 

Matchups matter. Rondale Moore was a disaster matchup for us going across the middle

Buckeye til I die

HS
Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

Straight truth. Especially since the gap between "upper tier" and "lesser teams" is smaller than it used to be.

OSU had 3 failed red zone chances vs Purdue, all 3 of which could've been TDs had OSU executed to their capability. Clearly this team has some issues, but score 3 TDs there and that game looks a lot different. 

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

HS
OhioStGoon's picture

Idk maybe I was wrong and Purdue might pull this off. MSU is playing Tressel-ball and being way to conservative in their playcalling.

GO BUCKS

HS
Buckeye_Since_1997's picture

Wisconsin was No. 4 in the preseason AP. Shows how much they just look at last year when they vote.

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

Purdue right now is playing how I want the Buckeyes to play. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

Both teams are bringing it physically. I'm jealous.

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

HS
Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

I'm also jealous for the no call on what looked like targeting on the Purdue turnover. Didn't even flags it or review it. OSU's DB gets ejected no question for a hit like that.

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

HS
youra6's picture

Where are all the people at now who said Purdue was a good team?

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

Welp. That's how you run block. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
Hoosierbuck7's picture

*Whispers* - MSU is ranked 121 in the NCAA in rushing. 

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” - Urban Meyer

HS
DCBuckeye33's picture

well obviously purdue was just so SO SOOOOO beat up from how bad the buckeyes hit them and it was their super bowl and they are the best team every but were just tired. /s

GO BUCKS

HS
DrSpaceman's picture

So it's like a yearly tradition now that we get beat real bad by an opponent and then they immediately drop the next week's game, huh?

"Medicine is not a science" - Leo Spaceman

HS
Greenbriar's picture

Purdue actually looked good against MSU. The difference is a few things went wrong for them today. Nothing went wrong for them last week. Last week answered the question of how badly can Purdue beat OSU if the game breaks for them perfectly. Had there been an even break of luck/big plays, the game would have been close. Close is not good enough for OSU but we are not 29 points worse.

HS
Seabass1974's picture

Pop quiz: Without looking, there have been only 2 teams that have a win the next week after playing Ohio State this season. Which teams are they?

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

HS
DrSpaceman's picture

Oregon State and Tulane???

"Medicine is not a science" - Leo Spaceman

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

Guessing Tulane is one? 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
All Ok Jumpmaster's picture

I was debating whether it was good or bad for the Buckeyes whether Purdue lost.

if we cannot pull our heads out of our asses, it doesn't matter.

Stay Frosty

HS
teddyballgame's picture

That team scored 50 on us?  Yikes.

HS
lljjgg's picture

Yeah, really embarrassing. Really makes OSU's weaknesses look even more glaring. Purdue played a solid game against MSU, but it was really obvious that if you minimized Rondale Moore's big plays (something MSU did but OSU couldn't) that Purdue's offense was manageable to defend. Everyone knew that going into the game and OSU gave up 170 and 2 TDs to him.

HS
Ohio1111's picture

Well it’s probable we got 0-4 in November 

nebraska is on the rise 

Michigan st defense dominated Purdue 

maryland is a road game and we haven’t played a convincing road game yet

Michigan is a better team from a-z and we will be spent and ready to be done. 

HS
DrSpaceman's picture

Well it’s probable we got 0-4 in November

Gonna beat Nebraska by 14+ but sure 

"Medicine is not a science" - Leo Spaceman

HS
Ohio1111's picture

Explain? We struggled against Minnesota and Nebraska crushed them. Remember 1 week ago we had 6 points in 3.5 quarters against a Purdue team that lost to eastern Michigan. 

HS
Hateblue's picture

If comparing select games predicts future outcomes, why did we beat Wisconsin in the B1G championship? We lost to Iowa by 31, and they lost to Wisconsin the next week. 

HS
JasonBuck's picture

Lol how in the world did OSU lose to Purdue??? We made their whole team look like all stars and they lose to MSU with their 2nd string QB....lol lol lol that's all I can do...we better have a new D coordinator and a new LB coach next year lol

HS
Johnny Utah's picture

Not too different from Iowa last year, who lost their next 2 games after beating OSU.

Combination of everything going right for a team in a home night game, and really poor preparation, adjustments, and in game coaching for OSU.

HS
youra6's picture

It is very different from last year. This defense has no leaders, at least last year we had Ward and Jerome Baker. Also, our LB Corp is about the worst I've ever seen. I don't think we go 0-4 but it's likely we drop another one before the season is over.

HS
actionstanleyjackson's picture

Purdue pretty much exactly who we thought they were. Just shows how utterly unprepared Ohio State was. Frankly, it really disheartening.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

HS
MiamiBuckeye's picture

And at the same time TCU fails to score a touchdown vs Kansas. 

Our strength of schedule is poop. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

HS
Knarcisi's picture

Nate Stanley is playing like shit. 

HS
TkeBuck's picture

seriously? those giant slayers, purdue and iowa, both looking like toothless kittens today. how did we ever ever fall to these second tier teams? 

jt

HS
Zdog4307's picture

Look on the bright side we are the dream crusher for literally every team in the big ten. 

Go Bucks

HS