WTF??? That's my only question.
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Yep, that's a pretty damned good question, too, Sanentonefan.
Does Wyatt Davis really suck so bad that he can't get on the field?
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And why is Isaiah Prince still starting.
When will it be put up or shut up time for the starters and coaches?
Have you considered any personnel changes since the season started?
Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0
Great question. The way Meyer sticks to poorly performing starters, you'd think he didn't have a roster full of big-tome talent. However, sometimes I honestly question his ability to see the obvious.
Take, for example, Rondale Moore. I know it's only speculation, but if he enrolled at Ohio State, what are the odds that he'd be exploited to a fraction of his potential vs. how he's being used at Purdue... to demolish the Buckeyes, no less?
(As a related side note to that, if I'm Demario McCall, I announce my transfer to Purdue, like, tomorrow.)
You can only wonder how many guys we've got like that on the bench. One need only look at last year, where halfway through the season, Meyer was asked if Dwayne Haskins was ready to start, and if anybody remembers that (I do), he actually dissed Haskins pretty hard, and from there, he rambled on and on about Barrett's rah-rah leadership.
Never mind that Haskins is obviously a better QB, and I'd say that was true last year, too, but by no means was he FAR removed from being able to carry Barrett's jockstrap, which is exactly what Meyer communicated--all of which was proven untrue when Barrett embarrassed the Buckeyes against Iowa, and Haskins saved the day against Michigan.
Maybe Meyer needs to start noticing who can play and who can't on the field vs. who can promote themselves as leaders.
Which realtor is Bill Davis using?
I would ask him, wtf is wrong with Harbaugh and the values he apparently instills in his players?
Did you really not recruit ONE impact freshman?
you had a top class, how can none of them see the field in a significant role?
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This is a great question, especially after Moore shredded us last night.
Ouch! Great question. I think you just gave Meyer a boo-boo through cyberspace.
If I may be so bold, I suggest tacking on a second part to your question, namely, "And do you really think that top recruits aren't noticing that you won't give freshman of chance of playing even if they earn it?"
TL; CR; I.
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No doubt. How dare anybody ask the same sorts of questions that, well, pretty much everybody in bars and home around Columbus, not to mention ESPN and other national outlets, have been asking for quite some time.
God forbid the locally-credentialed boys ask such upstart questions. It'd be like, common sense or sumthin'.
Those questions are overly long and overly long questions with multiple parts give experienced interviewees all the wiggle room they need to not answer.
I wasn’t being critical, I was just saying you couldn’t get away with asking tough questions like that.
Maybe that's true, but it's a shame. I guess that's one way I wish college football was a little more like the pros, where much tougher questions are asked.
no presser tomorrow unfortunately
Really? Darn. I'm guessing that's because it's a bye-week? But then, maybe that's even better, because these sorts of tough questions could be asked at the mid-point, where Meyer has extra time for reflection and no excuses for not getting into specifics.
Are the o-linemen who sit behind your "five best" so bad that they're preventing the coaches from trying different combinations of players to see if maybe shuffling the deck might produce better results?
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Will you step aside so that Ryan Day can take this program to the next level? Urban has obviously lost his nerve. He tightens up in close games, He refuses to revamp the running game despite the fact we don’t have a running QB. He continues to give a pass to Schiano and Davis despite the fact the defense is a steaming pile of garbage. Urban has become the new Cooper. Recruits the best talent in the country and under achievies.
Don't listen to Freddy P. Soft
Funny thing...Harbaugh probably watches Haskins and drools thinking "Oh the offense would be glorious". While Urban watches Shea thinking the same thing.
Hadn't thought about that. Damn though, you might just be right.
Why do we have 5 offensive tackles on the O line?
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Here's another question that I forgot to ask:
Given the new transfer rules in the NCAA combined with your refusal to give 4 and 5-star backups an opportunity to play when so many starters have played so poorly, aren't you afraid that you'll start to see a bunch of great players transferring, because they know they'll at least be given a chance to prove themselves elsewhere?
What has been done in the last 3 weeks to address the run game / O line issues and the overall D issues that were so well known.
What changes will you make over the next 2 weeks to address these weaknesses including personnel changes (including coaching changes) and scheme changes.
Both with details.
Another I’d like to ask...
when in your career did you stop going for 4th and 1? Young Urban lined up and dared the other team to stop him (we did this up 30+ at times early in his tenure). Now it’s an auto punt when you know your D is going to give up a score anyways
I think that started this year and our lack of run game.
You can be damn sure if MiIller or Barrett, or anything resembling a run blocking offensive line were out there he'd still do it.
Obviously no way of knowing but what are the chances Grinch was bought in and has a different view of defense than Schiano...Maybe if Schiano does leave Grinch will have more control and secondary play will improve...Davis and the LBers...dont hold much hope
I've wondered about that myself. Unfortunately, my best guess is that Grinch is there simply because Meyer thought that Schiano was going to leave, if not after last season then after this season.
To say the least, I think that calculation has changed. Right now, I have a hard time believing that any major school would hire Schiano. Maybe a Mac-level school would hire him, or maybe a Power Five perennial loser like Rutgers would take him back, but other than that, who would want him given his track record for never improving teams since his glory days at Rutgers?
Moreover, why would Schiano himself want to leave a cushy, high-paying job at Ohio State where it seems like he doesn't have to perform to cash big-time paychecks, on top of which, he's got a big defensive staff that can do most of the work?
Meanwhile, Grinch is supposed to be a defensive genius with special DB expertise. However, if that's the case, he certainly hasn't contributed any of that genius to this team. In fact, for all we know, he's been a cause of the problems.
On that score, I can't help but notice that no sooner did Grinch leave Washington State than their defense has seen a major improvement--and they never have a good D. Sure, maybe Grinch laid the foundation for said improvement, but it's hard to say.
Whatever the case, we know that Grinch hasn't brought any improvement to Ohio State's defense yet, and if it's the case that he's trying like Hell behind the scenes to shake things up, Meyer certainly isn't listening to him.
How has Tate Martell reacted to not playing a single snap in well over a month, and why would you not give meaningful snaps to a player who has the athletic ability to maybe cause the opposition to account for something other than a pass every single down? We were all told that packages had been developed to get Martell on the field... why is he wasting a season on the bench while you field what is the most one dimensional offense in college or professional football. Tate brings a different skill set than Dwayne does... why not use that to your advantage, get creative, and change it up?
Good question, Kmp. Meyer certainly had no problem platooning QBs to dismantle the Buckeyes on behalf of Florida for a natty.
I think Tate is going to take it elsewhere. I have nothing concrete, just based on how it's played out and how he looks on the sidelines.
Noticed him on the bench in the starter jacket rocking like rainman. He just lost a game he could’ve played in. IIRC, that’s a first.
I don’t see it.
He looked like he'd rather been anywhere but there.
Wouldn't he have to sit out a year?
Yes, but he has 3 years of eligibility remaining. I bet Chip Kelly would love to have him.
Unfortunately, you're probably right. Here's the thing: While I don't blame Haskins at all for the Buckeyes declining fortunes, it's now reached a point where I doubt that he'll exit for the NFL, since scouts will says he's not ready (not that I'd blame him for leaving or staying), and if he stays, that means Tate loses one more year of eligibility, and I'm guessing that he won't be cool with that--he'll feel that he can do better.
And he can. I mean, it's not as if Martell isn't good enough to earn a job at a major Power Five team that needs a QB--one that also doesn't just think of him as a running QB, either.
Actually, about the only thing that might coax Meyer into playing backups is that even he might be smart enough to realize that there might be a big exodus of transfers after this season if he doesn't ACT NOW, because when you combine the possibility of transfers with a relatively dismal-looking 2019 recruiting class, it just might occur to him that he'll be staring at 4-6 loss seasons if he's actually forced to return to coaching vs. relying on assistants to do all the coaching while riding the coattails of 4 and 5 star talent
In short, he won't be able to get away with offering zero added value other than recruiting, which just might dry up.
Stranger things have happened. Florida was at the apex of college football circa 2009 or thereabouts, and only now, nearly 10 years later, are they starting to re-gain their former footing as a program.
Meanwhile, how many top NFL picks does anybody see on this team? Jones isn't quite a first-round lock quite yet, while Bosa doesn't count, because he doesn't even go to school at Ohio State, on top of which, he only earned a starting job for 2 1/2 games.
But even if you counted Bosa, or even the future prospects of our whole defensive line (nobody doubts Coach Johnson's ability to develop guys), as mentioned, Haskins probably isn't leaving until after next year, and beyond that, we've maybe got some early to mid-round receivers, and maybe somebody will take a chance on Sheffield's athleticism in the second or third round, or they might take a gamble on Michal Jordan or Isaiah Prince (though not without holding their noses0, but...
Those aren't exactly headline-grabbing draft pics, and it very well might be the case that (Bosa/Jones aside), there's not a first-round draft pick, and suddenly, gone are the days when you could boast of developing a half dozen guys into top NFL talent.
Recruits pay attention to those sorts of things. Meyer might want to follow suit and change his current behavior
Martell will not sit another year, only to have to battle Stephen Baldwin for the job.
I think Jordan Fuller and Damon Arnette are going to be high picks, along with Dre'Mont Jones and Chase Young. Jonathan Cooper and Tyreke Smith could also develop into first round picks.
Mike Weber will go high in the draft, as will Dobbins the following year. Both of these guys will kill the combine, I believe.
So, I think the NFL draft will still have good representation from the Buckeyes, but it won't be at LB or O line...
Good points, although I was mostly focusing in 2019 results. I'm personally a little more dubious about Fuller, and especially Arnette. As for Young, I'm really big on him, as well as a whole mess of guys on their roster.
If I had expressed myself better and more clearly, I'd say that I'm just concerned that the Buckeyes might see their reputation as a top developer of NFL talent (vs. merely being a recruiter of said talent) being a bit tarnished.
I mean, I recognize that Ohio State is always gonna put guys in the league, but if the perception drops off a bit, that can have a big impact on whether or not you're a top five recruiter or a top 15 recruiter, which in turn can impact whether or not you're a playoff contender or a top 25 team.
Hopefully, that's a bit more clear. As for Martell, the other factor is that if Davis and Day both stay, he might reasonably take it has handwriting on the wall that more of a pro-style scheme and QB are the preference going forward.
It seems like a lot of things went up in the air this week.
Martell will not sit another year, only to have to battle Stephen Baldwin for the job.
Pretty sure it's Alec, William, or bust for Ohio State. Stephen isn't quite up to the standard.
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
Ha! Or, Matthew Baldwin. Oh man, that's funny.
Haskins is one and done.
We can’t block for the run regardless of if it’s QB run or RB. Tate would bring nothing to the table unless he was the starting QB and the D has to respect him throwing as well. Otherwise when he enters the game (say in the red zone as some have asked for) the D would key on run with RB or QB. I just don’t think it would help much. Just my opinion.
“How can you recruit and start a FBS caliber center and QB and not trust them to execute a QB sneak? Uh, Coach.....it’s a play they learned when they were 12. “.
Urban: Is your Defense so confused that they have,,,,uh,,,,,well.......uh.......quit?
Is now the time to hold your entire coaching team and starters accountable?
I know that you have noticed, like many of us, that the linebackers and safeties are playing badly out of position. Are there any changes planned to the scheme or personnel to stop this from happening.
With the running game being so ineffective for much of the season, are you planning any changes in the running scheme to take Dwayne Haskins out of the equation so the offensive line can commit to run blocking and not reacting to the run/pass options.
Great questions. Along those lines, I might also ask, "have you ever heard of counters, traps, draws and other misdirection type of runs, which have been used from time immemorial when offensive lines are struggling or becoming too predictable?"
I think you should send your questions to the coaching staff. I do not think they would respond, but they are the tough yet fair questions the staff needs to be asking itself right now.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
How did Markus Bailey not get offered a scholarship. He is a die hard OSU fan and destroyed us against Purdue. We need LB's and he was great and is from Columbus
It’s surprising that he wasn’t given that I believe Fickel was still at OSU when Bailey was a senior. Hilliard Davidson’s HC was Fickells DLine coach at DeSales in the early 90’s, and they still communicate fairly often. I would’ve figured that Luke could convince Urban to throw an offer to a low star local like he did with Lee, but I’d obviously be wrong.
I'd sincerely ask him if he feels distracted this season, and also I'd be curious to know just how much involvement he had in the first three weeks when he was suspended.
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
Why does it take a 30pt loss EVERY YEAR to change anything that's obvious to those with eyeballs?
There are three different types of people in the world.....those who can count, and those who cannot.
I have a question...
"How Dare You"!!
How do you plan to create a more balanced offense moving forward?
When are you seeing a shrink to overcome your over valued sense of loyalty. Hasn't it cost you and all of us enough already? Play Tate.
I think Haskins has been terrific, and it's more the case that the O line has failed them. Plus, it's time to play Dobbins full-time. That said, I think there's a legit case for exploring platooning with "Ohio Tate," and it seems like a failure to do so can be chalked up to an undeserved degree of loyalty to the O line or, if not Haskins specifically, since he's not to blame, then to the Haskins passing scheme, if you will.
Tate? You really think QB is our main problem? Wow. Just wow.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
Urban, why did u hire someone who gave a speech in ur wedding as a linebacker coach
Why did you stop hiring up-and-comers (like Herman) and start hiring retreads?
Want to go halfers on some papa johns?
At what point do you start holding players and coaches accountable? Worst defense and Lbs in particular in Buckeye history, yet nothing has been done. We see critical penalty after critical penalty and nothing gets done. How can you hold players accountable if the coaches aren't?
Berry alone is a penalty-machine, guaranteed to cost you 20 or more yards every game, yet he catches precious few passes, and for God's sake, please don't tell me how much he does as a blocker. So, are he and Farrell really so good that we can't give the backups more action?
Thing is, in my book, "next man up" should just pertain to injured players or guys who quit the team--it should apply to any player who isn't getting the job done or is needlessly costing the team on a routine basis.
Id ask coach of he knows the meaning of insanity, doing the same thing over and over looking for a different outcome
Coach Meyer, do you believe a program with a running back history like Heisman Trophy winners Archie Griffin and Eddie George and other RBs like Carlos Hyde and Keith Byers should be throwing the ball 73 times in one game?
Nothing is too difficult for the person that doesn't have to do it.
That's like one pass attempt for every yard rushing.
Ooh, nasty zinger, Buckeye3M. I hadn't thought of that correlation, but you made my mind go there, and somebody ought to make Meyer's go there, too.
We can add that to the very lengthy list under the label, "if that doesn't get your attention, I don't know what will..."
If you were playing Mega Millions or Power Ball, can you tell me what numbers you'd pick so I can avoid them?
This is what I would ask him:
1. Is Davis the best lb coach available?
2. Is Studrawa the best OL coach available?
3. What do you say to the fact that YOU oversaw 3 of the worst losses by a top 10 ranked OSU team (at the time) in OSU history?
3 of the worst losses within less than a two-year time span. He's getting paid 7 1/2 million a year for now delivering an average of two record-setting, utterly humiliating losses on a national stage once every five games.
Basically, he's getting paid record money to beat cupcakes, which, last time I checked, there are a whole lot of coaches out there who could achieve the same results for a whole lot less money.
Bottom line: He's paid for being elite, and that status is clearly going away. Hmm... Time for a pay adjustment, or does he think that he's entitled to big paydays regardless of his performance? Oh, wait a sec--NOW I get why he continues to start guys no matter how they play!
Love the first two questions. Brutally tough, yet fair questions.
Oklahoma changed defensive coordinators midseason. This defense has been embarrassing from week 1. Is it finally time for you to make a similar move?
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
Apt observation. I'm not sure if Schiano and company have sustained quite as long a record as Stoops for giving up tons of points, but..
They sure are working on it. Schiano appears to be making it a personal project to transform the Buckeyes into Rutgers Pt. 2.
What's up with the haircut?
You mean Urban's crewcut? I must be a sign of his new austerity program--a message to his staff that everybody is about to take a big cut.
When are you going to get the LBs off the line of scrimmage? They are called linebackers for a reason. Get them back off the line.
Apparently, Davis thinks that'll scare opposing offenses as opposed to seeing them exploit it. Someone needs to give Billy a heads up that you're supposed to disguise these things.
one good block and the guy is sprung for 15 - 30 yards. Need three lines of defense. Having no LBs off the line of scrimmage leaves gaping holes past the LOS.
Outside of the money do you really want to be here because the last few season's since winning it all tells me you're just going through the motions more than likely for check..
When Bill Davis said this about big plays: "We feel very confident that that is about to be eliminated", what did you take "about" to mean? When Davis is eliminated?
"What do you have to say to Courtney Smith? Any apologies to her?"
Edit: please interpret my sarcasm font. I'm too young to go to jail
Tom Rinaldi recently tweeted that Urban has apologized to Courtney for having to suffer through watching this defense.
I'm tempted to jump in here but I would be banned for life....
Where is Tate Martell within the 20 yard line to add in a QB run threat element?
They wouldn't let me go for 3.
On the bench.
I would ask; Do you give a shit anymore?
Fortune favors the bold.
Coach, in the last 4 years Ohio State has given up 49 points twice and 55 to Iowa. These are 3 of the worst 11 showings by an Ohio State Defense in it’s history. Only one other coach has had a defense give up 49 or more 3 times in their career at Ohio State. Can you assure us that there won’t be a 4th?
Nick Saban has never lost a game at Alabama by more than 14 points, EVER!!! Coach Meyer needs to grow a set of "Sabans" and make some changes to the staff and players! Coaches and players need to be afraid to lose their "jobs" if they do not perform... How do we not have a safety opposite Fuller that can play the position? How are our LB constantly out of position? Why do we constantly miss tackles and get driven back when we make contact? Do other teams players just want it more? On paper we are the most talented team on the field but we are constantly pushed to the edge... Maybe Harbaugh is on to something with all his 3* recruits...
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*As always, In (Urban) Ryan Day I Trust! There is a plan, even if we cannot see it right now!
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Coach, with all due respect, would you ever be willing to voluntarily resign should YOU ever determine-based on your own criteria- that the program's future would be better off with a different head coach?
Coach, are you trying to give me diarrhea? No, no, no, seriously - you're fuckin with me right now, right? What... What are you doing...?
Coach, given your recent history with loyalty costing the program. Why is Bill Davis on the staff, if not out of mere loyalty?
The one question I would like to ask Urban is "What did you learn about football from Steve Rasso (former St.X football coach) during your one year on his staff?"
"Hey Urban" Just before getting escorted out of the building....."since the going has gotten tough is the tough going to get going as they did in Florida or are we going to stick around and fix this?"
My only questions:
The past three weeks you have stated that our weaknesses have been revealed and we are working on them. What has been done?
How is the coaching staff making the players better and putting them into a position to be successful on the football field?
It appears that nothing has been done. Overrunning plays because players are out of position. Not wrapping up when tackling. Lack of focus penalties, just to name a few glaring issues.
What does Bill Davis do all day long? When are we going to teach fundamentals of run blocking, shedding blocks, and playing the ball? Is this the most any of your teams have been penalised? How do you correct that
Is Nick Bosa planning on attending any of the remaining games? Is he still a team captain???
All coach speak and BS aside, what do you think the problem with this team is and what's your plan to fix (not patch) it?
You talk a lot about accountability in your program, and about giving maximum effort all the time. I see neither. Your team doesn't play pissed off anymore either. What are you willing to do about that?
"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."
Are the rumors of you retiring soon true? We need to shut Feinbaum up.
"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra
I'd ask him if he can provide a leadership course for Michael Drake.
Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith