Everything is so clear in hindsight. It always is.
Always true for me. I attempt to learn from it.
Buy the ticket take the ride.
Shit! I don't see straight whether I'm looking or backward. I think it is the bourbon...
Gene Smith could save all of this by simply making Urban fire or demote any coach on staff that he has had PERSONAL connections too, totally outside of football. After Iowa last year, Purdue this year, MSU in 15', he's shown he can't make the coaching changes needed to support a top 5 program. Hard to believe a man as brilliant as he is can't see how costly nepotism can be (ahem Zach Smith).
They’re making it easier for opponents by handicapping themselves, and it’s entirely fixable
defensive backs refusing to look back toward an incoming pass while committing interference in plain sight
They’re making it easier for opponents by handicapping themselves, and it’s entirely fixable
defensive backs refusing to look back toward an incoming pass while committing interference in plain sight
They're doing the other guys work for them more often than not.
"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War
Like I was telling a buddy yesterday, if you have the linebackers run straight into the trenches, you are effectively removing three of your personnel from the play. The offense only has to play against 8 people then instead of 11. It's baffling...
Number 1 rule in life: always beat That Team Up North.
Just like when a defensive back plays the man and not the ball they're almost always giving up at least 15 yards and a first down.
Yup...especially if the ball is even slightly underthrown. It's a guaranteed penalty. Not sure why that is not getting through. Then again, we don't have Lattimore, Conley, Hooker or Bell back there.
Your ad nauseam negativity aside, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Re: nepotism ~ Urban has been successful at every school since BG. And no, he hasn't won a national championship every year and neither has Saban. But Saban never had the school president throw him under the bus. Indeed, if you win 5 natty's you can get away w/just about anything, eh.
And so it goes ...
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain
btw, Nebraska is playing Bethune-Cookman on Sat !@#$%^&* Maybe they are preparing to move to the SEC. :-P
I digress ...
Their game against Akron got cancelled so they scheduled Bethune-Cookman literally last month so they could play 12 games this season :-P
Well, hopefully B-C is getting a big paycheck. :-P
And speaking of ad nauseam 11) 10) 9) 8) 7) have been mentioned repeatedly at this site the past several wks. IOW no great insight even the added sarcasm is nothing new.
You used to be cool. What happened to you?
Shiloh commenting on Ramzy's posts:
Shandy is not beer
Shiloh Rhymes with Shitshow, coincidence?
It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.
Haha, this made me LOL in the office.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
“the secret lab of unending shiftiness” LOL!
"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody
I appreciate you talking about the demeanor of Urbz. Everytime the Cameras show him during the game I just think to myself, "What is he doing? Why is he always bent over, like the world is about to end?" He just seems off and I can't stand watching him. Is there any real leadership going on? So many aspects of this team are so frustrating to watch. Why does Dwayne look like a new born deer taking his first steps? He had some great scrambles last year, this year it's like he forgot how to walk. I apologize for the rant, had to get this off my chest. I live in Southern California with no Buckeyes to spill this to.
I remember Urban in his first couple years, media would praise something the team is doing and his answers were angry. He was pissed. Just feels like he doesn't care as much about fixing anything. Friends for Coaches. Damn.
A Leader is one who knows the way, goes the way and shows the way.
Agreed. He's normally so 'rah-rah' on the sideline. Seeing him like that instilled zero confidence in me (a dude screaming at my tv from my couch), I wonder how it's perceived by the players.
I think personally we are seeing the Denzel Ward (Nick Bosa) effect. And before anyone wants to scream "He does not owe you anything or if it was you, you wouldn't take the chance of getting hurt". There is a culture growing in CFB. Nick Saban talked about it after we beat them. He said he felt too many of his players "gave up" because they were looking to not get hurt and they were looking forward to the NFL. While I truly believe that we beat them (and would have even if he was wrong and they continued to give 1000%) It appears that DH is looking to avoid contact at all costs this year. Last year during The Game he rand like his life depended on it. This year I believe that he is running like his future is on the line. He is big enough to truck some of these defensive backs and still get up but it looks like he is avoiding ANY contact. While Nick had "every right" to remove himself from school and concentrate on the NFL it sends a very clear message that this is just a stepping stone and to hell with anything that would resemble a "brotherhood".
Would I do any different? I cant say because I have never been in that position. I can only tell you that I was not raised that way. Sometimes you make sacrifices for the good of the whole/team/brotherhood that you chose to be a part of.
You never get a second chance to make the first impression
I mentioned this is 2015. I really think you need your premier players to be freshman and sophomores because they are worrying less about next year and more about their current team and showing how good they can be for the next level. Once that is "proven" and you are in year 3 the NFL takes precedence. Obviously this is anecdotal but it really seems the majority of our premier seasons since Urban has been here have been by non final year players. It mirrors what Saban was saying.
It's becoming a truth at Ohio State. Meyer has reaped what he sowed. And....I am not sure we can compare Meyer's program with Saban's on any level right now. When you look at the team's who have kicked our ass in the last 3 years -- I'll leave Oklahoma out of it, they are:
Clemson: A team that has sent players to the NFL one year early -- and also one whose elite players more often than not, have chosen to stay; a team buying into (except Bryant this year, LOL) what their coach is saying -- oh and he is a coach we like to make fun of.
Iowa: A team of blue collar 3 star players who are disciplined and buy into the team concept and their coach we like to make fun of
Purdue: A team of 2 and 3 star players (yes, I'll exclude Moore) who are disciplined and buy into the team concept
Anyone see a pattern here?
But an ethos of The Ohio State Football program, more or less, that it's a stepping stone to the NFL. There's an entire wall dedicated to the Buckeyes in the NFL ( I'm sure others have the same) but it doesn't seem Meyer builds a narrative of living for today, instead of looking to the future.
If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die.
I think there is more than a grain of truth to this, tolstoy. It's why this "ethos" at Ohio State, despite its myth of brotherhood, is more of a NFL farm team for many of the kids who come to OSU. A few build lifelong ties and are etched in its history and Columbus bloodlines. For the rest.....eh.....put in your 3 years and move on. "Nothing personal, it's only business."
I don't get excited about the high intensity recruiting any longer. I'd rather have the 3 start or 4 star that loves Ohio State that comes in and builds to a 4 or 5 star within the program.
But you need a good coach (not just a great recruiter) to make that happen.
Shouldn't a coaches most important job be to coach and help develop the skills and talents of their players? No they can't be a bum on the recruiting trail, but they should be able to coach their position group and develop players. These problems start at the top.
it appears that DH is looking to avoid contact at all costs this year. Last year during The Game he rand like his life depended on it. This year I believe that he is running like his future is on the line. He is big enough to truck some of these defensive backs and still get up but it looks like he is avoiding ANY contact. While Nick had "every right" to remove himself from school and concentrate on the NFL it sends a very clear message that this is just a stepping stone and to hell with anything that would resemble a "brotherhood".
I'm not the only one ....
“Never hire friends or relatives.” THE golden rule of business, and the reason for it is on display this season. And I don’t know why Urban seems to think that firing an assistant coach is some sort of mortal sin.
By the way...does Saban hire friends and relatives? He hired Lane Kiffin, so I’m guessing no...
Urban always with his head down looking straight at the ground. What other person does that?
To be fair, his emotions are perfectly synced with my own. A lot of "WTF was that?!"
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
Great write-up Ramzy. Your best yet. I enjoy your honesty. My take: Hire the best, no extra points to relatives, wedding participants, friends of friends, age, school diplomas, etc. I still can't believe our LB coach never coached LBers before.
Davis never coached LBs AT THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL before.
My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.
I've been waiting for this article since watching that dumpster fire on saturday. As always, Ramzy's writing provides a slight spark of hope in this weird, sad, dark world.
Hah, I'm not sure how much hope it inspired, but I repeatedly laughed out loud reading this...thanks Ramzy.....much needed levity after I bailed on the game late in the 3rd quarter when I could see the writing on the wall....you see I am a poor loser when the Bucks are involved, a failing I admit.
Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....
Thanks Ramzy--great situational as usual. Interesting insight by your Uber driver into Urban's role. He has seemed off. I think all of the crap this season might have gotten to him. I would like to see the Urban we all know and love--fired up and having fun on the football field. Haven't seen much of him this year. Likewise, the team seems lethargic. Hopefully, this loss puts a charge into Urban and this team.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
I adore this wildly talented and viciously stupid team
LOL! Sadly, this captures so much in a single sentence.
Time to re-evaluate a lot of things. I hope they get the ship righted and save the season. If not, this next offseason is going to be rocky as well.
Fields of Dreams
Coach: This week we're going to work on fundamentals: blocking, tackling, awareness of the mark to make.
Stupid players: We don't need no stinkin' fundamentals; we got black unis.
Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !
Everybody said, “It ain’t gonna be easy”. Nobody said, “Kid, it’s gonna get hard” - RWB
The best cure for a beat down is to get back on the field. In our case, a week to get back to fundamentals and light a fire is well timed. I expect a rowdy bunch running out on the field vs Nebrasky.
I expect a rowdy bunch running out on the field vs Nebrasky.
If it isn't, then it'll make the ugly 0-fer November of 2011 look like a walk in the park.
I hope that being so thoroughly embarrassed in a primetime game with most of the football world watching will be enough to light a fire under their nutsacks. I know that most of these boys have NFL aspirations and it doesn't bode well for them when they play like shit. They better strap up and work on fundamentals.
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
It's just so bad on so many levels. Yet we're 7-1 with a generational QB and really good receiver room. D line is solid but no longer outstanding. It's all downhill from there... will a scheme change help? It couldn't hurt!!! We could play vanilla defense and stop all future offenses until the playoffs. If we ran a pro-I offense with play action passing and some pure pass sets only Michigan would have a chance to stop us. We are totally beating ourselves with poorly conceived and probably poorly executed coaching. If Urban doesn't learn from this year, he never will and should return to the booth. Let's hope he learns... effective immediately!
The slow developing read option plays are killing the run game. The backs need to hit the hole with some momentum and the line is going to have to get pissed off. As far as the defense goes, I think it's going to take a starting personnel change at LB and also a scheme adjustment. The "stare at the receiver while the ball is in the air" technique isn't working and has been an issue for years. They were able to get by because they had some of the most talented DB's in the country to mask it.
Dwayne isn't reading anyone in the run game. That's the problem. There was a play against Purdue in the red zone where if he read the DE he could have crawled in. He handed off, didn't even look at the DE crashing.
They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.
My understanding is that most of those plays are not actually zone read. They are scripted hand offs, even though it looks like a read.
that shit is hella contagious.
How can you expect your team to run through a wall of flames if they see you holding your head with both hands as you come off the field?
Thanks for the usual, quirky takes Ramzy, it's like putting the OSU game plan to music.
Never place a bet on anything that can talk.
History repeats itself...
Hoping I'm wrong, but it's been eerily reminiscent of Urban's last days at Florida. And whereas I agree he won't have his legacy end like this, that doesn't mean it has to be restored at Ohio St. We shall see...
If someone else has to charge you up maybe its time to go.
Mark May is a mental midget
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco
Bravo! most anticipated read of the week
Love the pairings
That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
Urban needs to listen to his own words!!
I have this quote from Urban in the signature of my business email. One of my favorite all time quotes
‘If what you want is different than what you have, then you need to change what you are doing.’
A wise man once said "Fire well, hire well. In that order. It means when you make a mistake, you take care of it before it takes care of you." -----oh hey that was you Ramzy.
Words to live by and never more relevant in Ohio right now. I am never one to hire family and friends, never seems to work out.
I also wish that Jimmy Haslam would live by those words.
"Let me quote the late great Cornel Sanders, I'm to drunk to taste this chicken"
Ramzy, please go into detail about your conversation with the Uber driver and his experiences with his roommate and roommate's girlfriend. You can post it in the PL, if you'd like. Please?
Me dancing to my new favorite song Defensive Lineman Literally Cartwheeling into a Punter by Davon Hamilton...
If I ever learn Portuguese I'll remember to reference what I've read here as the genesis.
I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...
Love the snark by OSU Brasil! Priceless!
Trust me! I'm an Engineer.
Expensive Texas Tech...
love the levity you bring, ramzy!
I don’t see it.
I'm guessing hardly anyone hands out Almond Roca on Halloween, but that stuff is awesome with Makers Mark.
Much has been said about Urban's “loyalty” in regard to keeping coaches around the program past their prime. Surely this plays a significant role in his sideline demeanor. He knows he whiffed on these hires, and your can be the he has talked to each of the coaches about the on field production (or lack thereof). He is probably dreading the tough conversation he has to have with his coaches/friends he hired and tell them they are fired.
He is probably dreading the tough conversation he has to have with his coaches/friends he hired and tell them they are fired.
The firing portion of those conversations will not happen. See: Smith, Zach.
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
The Real Man looked like the best of those hot dogs but there was no option to vote for it.
I have a Marco's Pizza tie in for the BG Program and Ohio State. Like possibly other's here, I delivered pizza for him in college for 2 summers.
That is where I leaned "AYOs". Position groups ran in groups, and then there was "all you others" from Coach Hayes.
Ohio State is still deploying an offense out of formations predicated on the quarterback being a viable rushing option.
A bunch of readers here don't want to accept that fact.
I have to disagree with you and Ramzy on this one. Though it looks similar to the "read option", it is an "RPO". Even the NFL teams are running this type of offense with non running quarterbacks. It is essentially a play action pass play where the qb gets to decide whether to hand it to the running back or throw a pass. This seems to put more pressure on the offensive line because they can't go downfield to block or else they will be called for ineligible man down field. It's possible that the running game is suffering because of this scheme and not solely because of the offensive line coach.
We can put some of the running problems on the running backs themselves. On every play, the defense outnumbers the offense by two players. It is on the running back to make the right cut, find the right hole, and break a tackle. After rewatching the game against Purdue (I know, I'm a glutton for punishment) I saw times where the running backs cut back when there was room on the outside, miss the hole, or got brought down by an arm tackle. They didn't seem to be running with bad intentions at all.
I don't see how others don't see that 5 can't block 7. Or 6 blocking 7 if you count Farrell, but then you have to subtract after Munford falls for the fake outside. It was more Tebow, ankle breaking Miller, and Barrett than it was scheme.
A bunch of readers here don't want to accept that fact
I think that fact pisses off frustrates more people than it sends running away in denial.
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Welp, I'm actually in a position to give a review on some of these. Damn kids didn't show up last year.
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
It will be interesting to see what if any kind of corrective action the head coach puts into upgrading these units in light of his infrequent but conspicuous Friends and Family hiring practices.
As you pointed out based on Meyer's past, there will be no corrective action at all.
the only question is if they’re too arrogant to concede and make a conspicuous philosophical shift before they play Nebraska.
Unfortunately, we all know the answer to that. If they were either too arrogant or stupid to remove the read option heavy offense on the offseason, or at any point during the previous 8 weeks, they're certainly not going to change now. This is Urban's offense, and he's going to run it hell or high water.
Urban is not going out like this. Legacy matters way too much to him.
Agree to disagree. As you so astutely observed, he looks defeated when he's out on the field. He looks like it is literally the last place he wants to be, and the team feeds off of that. The primary reason that this team seems to show so little energy is because the entire coaching staff looks bored and stressed at the same time. I'm not saying the coaches need to be cheerleaders all of the time, but having the energy or fire of Coombs or Fick every one in a while is not a bad thing.
There is a clear dearth of leadership, guidance, planning, and execution on this year's team. Whether we like it or not, that starts at the top. Here's to hoping that all Meyer needs is a "fresh start" to the extent that the offseason will do him some good and allow him to refocus and learn to adapt his offense in the way that Saban had to learn that lesson too. Here's to also hoping that he has the guts to dismiss the coaches who are not assisting in making the players, and thereby the program, better.
Dwayne isn't reading anyone in the run game. That's the problem. We aren't running enough read plays.
Ramzy, reading your take is always enjoyable and in these dire situations a wonderful soothing salve. Thankfully not nearly at the level of the enjoyment of listening to Marty Brennaman and the Cowboy, Jeff Brantley to make the unbearable Cincinnati Reds, enjoyable.
4. The blackout that arrives when Ohio State takes the field in a week and a half appears to be the most tepid attempt at uniform hyping in the Buckeye Alt Uni era. It also began in the aftermath of the loss to Purdue [trombone.wav] which created the narrowest possible retail window at a low point for consumer enthusiasm.
Never one to pass up an opportunity to mock the whole idea of alternate uniforms, this year's offering seems particularly boneheaded. How ironic is it that we're doing black unis the game after getting pantsed by Purdue. Looks like Brutus and Purdue Pete had a side bet, where the loser has to wear the winner's uniforms for their next game, in order to compound the shame.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
Great Fight Club reference
The Texas tech reference is so true and painful. My last 3 years of fandom have been frustrating, but this season is the worst so far. Can’t play defense and can’t run the ball with maybe the most talent ever Is like living a nightmare. This is not buckeye football
Cadbury Caramello and Pappy Van Winkle Old Family Reserve.
7-1. We're 7-1. Can we ban all talk and whispers about Meyer and his coaching prowess? That anecdote by the BG football player is cute, but he basically describes ALL HC's. Very few position coaches will ever take the reigns of head coach and there's a reason for that. This team has undergone an incredible amount of BS this year and we need to understand that. It was a miracle we were 3-0 without Meyer. We all said that. The run game is mystifying, as is the defense allowing big plays. Guess what? OSU is a school that demands its recruits be able to play man to man, and basically everything else we're used to seeing on both sides of the ball. So, if anyone's expecting to see vast differences in schemes out of the bye week, think again. What we WILL see, I think is much better execution and less mental errors, mental errors I mostly attribute to sheer frustration that the opponents aren't laying down, they're fighting. They're supposed to lay down and take their lumps like good scrubs. Not in the B1G 10. And that's the last point I'd like to make. I literally never hear anyone talk about the quality of the coaching and opponents we've been facing. These guys are great. You may be looking at a next OSU HC someplace like PJ Fleck. Top to bottom the B1G 10 has by far the best coaches and programs. Even the shitty ones. That's got to be accounted for.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
I"m with you regarding the opposing teams. How many times have I heard, "OMG Purdue lost to EASTERN MICHIGAN!" Yes, their first or second game this year. They've adjusted, they've learned , they have improved. They aren't the same team they were in September, nor is Michigan. It's amazing to me how members here believe every other team in the Big Ten is barely fit for HS ball . Over the years, I've watched us lose to every one in the original Big Ten conference at least once, whether it was Northwestern, or Illinois, or Minnesota. They ALL have been great teams at some point in time, the difference in staying on top has been coaching and recruiting, which has created their downfall at times. It's created our downfall also.
It doesn't help when ESPN and especially book sites predict us winning games by 20-30 pts. Kind of makes players , IMO, assume they don't need to work hard during practice and can just show up for games. Add in this same dumb defensive scheme, and the other teams who do work at it know what to do.
Elmer T Lee and Brachs caramels. A staple at my house every Halloween.
Live from Nowhere in Particular....
Where in the hell are you finding Elmer T Lee, and how do I follow you wherever you go - like people followed Forest Gump?
Make preparations in advance. You never have trouble if you are prepared for it.
The cartwheel kick on the punter was one of the cringiest penalties I've ever witnessed.
So well written Ramzy. Tip of the cap for the bourbon recommendations. Sober October is killing me.
Regarding the perturbations of this sideline Meyer character, an interesting time travel experiment would be to extend the Meyer suspension through the Purdue game. Would the results be different? Would we play more relaxed without the sideline anxiety? Prior to Meyer's return, we seemed like playground ballers. This is absolutely unfair to Urbz but I'd like to run this experiment in another simulation.
wtf man, who are you and how did you get my number
Andrew Lind posted it in one of the S.H.I.T. threads, then he handed out 1,200 down votes, sold everything, and was last seen walking his dog near an overpass in Muskogee, Oklahoma.
Chase’s reaction to Hamilton’s gymnastics is priceless. xD
Coach x & o stuff.
Ramzy - that makes 12 years ago hurt more
I have filled notebooks full of concepts.
Driven from rage felt from that ONE game. 5 eligible - all aligned / 3in the middle 8 wide / fake WR covered
Double double read option
Leave gaps to spread the defense. Pick play from their alaignment.
1) Get rid of stupid penalties.
2) Score in the red zone.
3) Get the LBs off of the line so they can react
4) Put the meanest OL on the field. I don't care if they average 6'6" if they can't push people backwards.
Otherwise this team has all of the talent that it needs.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Urban once found creative ways to win and creative ways to motivate, He seems to have relied on what he found instead of realizing that the his true advantages were not in what he found but in his ability to find them. This includes his play calling, his motivation, his hires, his techniques. I know its just one loss and hardly anyone goes through a season without one or several of those but a great leader finds ways to lead and i suspect Urban will do just that, Football is very much about being one or two steps ahead of your opposition and Urban and his team are under the impression that they found something that that will carry them and have stopped looking for the advantages he was once famous for finding.
Ramzy's the best in the business. I only wish you were more prolific.
I didn’t know I could read Portuguese, but I guess I can.